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Possible UW Hires if the rumor is true
FreeChavez
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There is a lot a hope from the rumor that Romar will get fired and I thought I'd take a look at some of the possible options. First you have to consider that the pac 12 hasn't exactly been a great area for poaching top notch coaches. ASU ended up with Hurley, USC with Enfield, Cal with Cuanzo, and OSU with Tinkle. Larry K was a failed NBA guy who was now trying to battle back in college after success at Montana. UCLA for all it's big chops was able to hire New Mexico's finest? We? should temper the thoughts that UW is getting a big name.
The other consideration I think is insane is the $ amount thrown around needing to land a good coach. They will be able to land a very good coach for between $1.5-2 Million(not the rumored 3+ that I see). I could see UW cherry picking an assistant to save $, but picking who would leave in the assistant world is much harder to gauge. So I'll stick to current HC's.
Unicorns
Gregg Marshall - Zero % chance this happens. He is making around $3-3.5M in Wichita. To even sniff that amount at UW he'd need closer to 5 a year. Not to mention his teams have made deep runs into the NCAA. What is the incentive to move? There isn't one. Move on
Archie Miller - Paid around $700k but in Dayton and can't see any reason he would consider UW. There will be plenty of Midwest/East Coast teams that will need a coach and the only appeal I can see is battling his brother. Outside of that, moving to seattle for around the same pay(with cost of living) seems quite unlikely.
More likely
Eric Musselman - A longstanding NBA guy who went to college and has had a lot of success at Nevada. He's a west coast guy, has shown he can win and UW would be an obvious promotion. Negative is if he wants to stay in college after being a long time NBA coach.
Leon Rice - Continues to do well at Boise State with much less talent than would happen at UW. It would be a raise, as well as a promotion to go to the pac12. He's a NW guy who looks to be a long standing college coach. Obviously it would be odd to have multiple Boise state coaches, but the first one is working out.
Russell Turner - UC Irvine isn't exactly the most dominate ever, but he has shown a decent amount of promise and likely would be gone other than family connect to UC Irvine. UW can offer the medical facilities to entice his wife.
David Richman - Long standing at NDSU. Not exactly a sexy hire, but an obvious promotion for him and has shown promise in his limited time as a head coach.
Cam Dollar - Lazy hire, yes. But if you're looking for someone who is ingrained locally with player and coaches he is a consideration(not a good reason or hire). Seattle U hasn't exactly ripped the doors off the world in his tenure in the WAC. No idea why anyone would think he would excel at the next level.
Paul Weir - Only one year at NMSU, however it's an obvious upgrade from his current position. He doesn't have a lot of seasoning and it's a gamble but could come on the cheap compared to others.
Someone internal - This is hands down fucking insanity, but a reality. Coach Chil has been heralded for his recruiting. I have no idea what that means to actual coaching b/c he's been apart of the last 6 years. It also should be noted that outside of the diamonds that UW has been able to land, 80% of the roster shouldn't be playing major minutes in pac12 basketball so his recruiting can't be that great. The rest of the staff has no business being given the keys to this program yet.
I fear there will be some sort of more to placate the next recruiting class vs looking to the next 5+ years. If romar is the guy all the doogs say, then he would talk to incoming guys and tell them to stick with UW. If they don't, so be it. I'd like to see Leon or Musselman with a real toss up to both. Leon has more long standing success at a program not exactly known for dominance. While musselman has NBA credibility that so many Doogs absolutely love to glam onto. Musselman is also a very good defensive coach and more of a complete rebuke of the lazy era we've become used to. I'd love to see whomever is hired keep Will and possibly bring on B-roy as the last assistant. Both can work their way up rather than the bullshit Doog fans are saying about handing over the program to a High School coach.
Gun to the head i'd take musselman all reality considered and hope he's more like Larry K and wants to be in college now.
Who you all got on the list as far as options?
The other consideration I think is insane is the $ amount thrown around needing to land a good coach. They will be able to land a very good coach for between $1.5-2 Million(not the rumored 3+ that I see). I could see UW cherry picking an assistant to save $, but picking who would leave in the assistant world is much harder to gauge. So I'll stick to current HC's.
Unicorns
Gregg Marshall - Zero % chance this happens. He is making around $3-3.5M in Wichita. To even sniff that amount at UW he'd need closer to 5 a year. Not to mention his teams have made deep runs into the NCAA. What is the incentive to move? There isn't one. Move on
Archie Miller - Paid around $700k but in Dayton and can't see any reason he would consider UW. There will be plenty of Midwest/East Coast teams that will need a coach and the only appeal I can see is battling his brother. Outside of that, moving to seattle for around the same pay(with cost of living) seems quite unlikely.
More likely
Eric Musselman - A longstanding NBA guy who went to college and has had a lot of success at Nevada. He's a west coast guy, has shown he can win and UW would be an obvious promotion. Negative is if he wants to stay in college after being a long time NBA coach.
Leon Rice - Continues to do well at Boise State with much less talent than would happen at UW. It would be a raise, as well as a promotion to go to the pac12. He's a NW guy who looks to be a long standing college coach. Obviously it would be odd to have multiple Boise state coaches, but the first one is working out.
Russell Turner - UC Irvine isn't exactly the most dominate ever, but he has shown a decent amount of promise and likely would be gone other than family connect to UC Irvine. UW can offer the medical facilities to entice his wife.
David Richman - Long standing at NDSU. Not exactly a sexy hire, but an obvious promotion for him and has shown promise in his limited time as a head coach.
Cam Dollar - Lazy hire, yes. But if you're looking for someone who is ingrained locally with player and coaches he is a consideration(not a good reason or hire). Seattle U hasn't exactly ripped the doors off the world in his tenure in the WAC. No idea why anyone would think he would excel at the next level.
Paul Weir - Only one year at NMSU, however it's an obvious upgrade from his current position. He doesn't have a lot of seasoning and it's a gamble but could come on the cheap compared to others.
Someone internal - This is hands down fucking insanity, but a reality. Coach Chil has been heralded for his recruiting. I have no idea what that means to actual coaching b/c he's been apart of the last 6 years. It also should be noted that outside of the diamonds that UW has been able to land, 80% of the roster shouldn't be playing major minutes in pac12 basketball so his recruiting can't be that great. The rest of the staff has no business being given the keys to this program yet.
I fear there will be some sort of more to placate the next recruiting class vs looking to the next 5+ years. If romar is the guy all the doogs say, then he would talk to incoming guys and tell them to stick with UW. If they don't, so be it. I'd like to see Leon or Musselman with a real toss up to both. Leon has more long standing success at a program not exactly known for dominance. While musselman has NBA credibility that so many Doogs absolutely love to glam onto. Musselman is also a very good defensive coach and more of a complete rebuke of the lazy era we've become used to. I'd love to see whomever is hired keep Will and possibly bring on B-roy as the last assistant. Both can work their way up rather than the bullshit Doog fans are saying about handing over the program to a High School coach.
Gun to the head i'd take musselman all reality considered and hope he's more like Larry K and wants to be in college now.
Who you all got on the list as far as options?
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Just hire Jerome Collins if you want to do stupid shit.
At least you admit it's a lazy hire.
Romar ranks about 30th without other pay and bonuses a new coach would probably get paid in the top 20 so Archie would get a significant pay raise that would not balance out with cost of living.
Few is pretty rare but he has a winning program in spokane which is a shithole(I live here) with terrible local basketball talent. Any quality coach can go to uw with the resources and be very successful.
I've always thought of Musselman as boring but he obviously brings league cred and what he's done with the Nevada squad is pretty damn impressive. This is where I'd focus my resources. I think it would be a decently high-ceiling hire...he's not going to win natties...with a pretty high bottom, as well. At the least I see him putting fundamentally sound, unspectacular teams on the floor. And seeing as I think I'll probably nut my pants the next time we? run a proper inbounds play, that works fine for now.
I also read an article last night...pretty sure it was Huard's?...but it mentioned sloppy tits would owe Romar $3mil through 2020 as if that would be a serious obstacle. I hope Brock is just throwing shit at the wall here. If we? are scared to fire a coach who's missed his goal 6 years in a row and finishes 11th in conference with the #1 overall pick because he's owed $750k annually for 4 years, just close the fucking program down already
The basketball program has none of those things. The local talent and money (if they even can/will pay top dollar) is all UW has to offer.
I don't want 90% of the list i wrote, but it's a much more realistic view of who is available and may actually sign up for the job. UW isn't paying almost 2M for romar for 2 more years plus paying 3-4 million a year. It isn't happening. So the 1-2 million range is realistic.
My picks of realistic coaches are rice and musselman. Yes there could be a dark horse but that's why they are a dark horse. Bennett is also a great option and I should have included him in the possible list. I'd still take rice or musselman over him, but still should be there.
As @RoadDawg55 put it, we? are a football school, so yes this job is not going to be an obvious jump to greatness. Romar for all his faults has brought a few top guys in and it's not based on program trajectory(ask markelle).
Win and the place is full lose for 6 seasons and no one cares. Pretty simple.
The only legit 5 star recruit the state has produced since Wroten is Zach Levine, and he was a like a low 20's guy nationally. The last top 10 national recruit the state produced was Abdul Gaddy. The last top 10 national recruit the state produced that was actually worth a damn was Spencer Hawes.
Spencer Hawes is in his 10th season in the NBA.
Seattle area talent is good. But it's not enough of itself to draw a good coach. It's going to take a commitment to hoops and a shit ton of money. Smart money says we'll be hiring someone who sucks.