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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    It's not hypocrisy for a government to keep it's word, good idea or bad, and you know the time value of money. Government promised, they paid the taxes. Without cost controls, of course it's doomed because government always overspends and sends the bill to the next generation.

    I bitch about handouts to people who don't need them, or that continue to balloon deficits. Everyone should. Don't you?
    This is a interesting rabbit hole to go down and might merit a new thread.
    Disagree. Stick to shitty music.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,769 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    It's not hypocrisy for a government to keep it's word, good idea or bad, and you know the time value of money. Government promised, they paid the taxes. Without cost controls, of course it's doomed because government always overspends and sends the bill to the next generation.

    I bitch about handouts to people who don't need them, or that continue to balloon deficits. Everyone should. Don't you?
    Regardless the reasons for why healthcare spending continues to gobble up an ever higher percentage of GDP, can we agree that if you receive more in government benefits than you paid in taxes (even if you have paid them your entire working life) you have benefited from some transfer of wealth? It's a simple fact that at present, most retirees will receive more in far more government benefits than they paid into the system via taxes (Medicare drives this more than SS). Is it their (retirees) fault that healthcare is so damned expensive - no, not entirely (it's a complex issue with no easy solutions). All my original point was based on is that is that it's somewhat hypocritical if you have received a transfer of wealth - even if you paid payroll taxes - to complain about the poor receiving wealth transfers from need based programs like Food Stamps, TANF, etc. Is there waste and fraud in the needs based welfare programs - absolutely. But these programs are the not the primary drivers of our structural deficits.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,769 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    It's not hypocrisy for a government to keep it's word, good idea or bad, and you know the time value of money. Government promised, they paid the taxes. Without cost controls, of course it's doomed because government always overspends and sends the bill to the next generation.

    I bitch about handouts to people who don't need them, or that continue to balloon deficits. Everyone should. Don't you?
    This is a interesting rabbit hole to go down and might merit a new thread.
    Disagree. Stick to shitty music.
    Put together a collection of LP's and CD's like mine and then pop off.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    Tea party didn't riot. Stop lying hondo

    Yes everything at the tea party was peaceful. They didn't protest either. Nothing to see here, move along.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_protests
    Okay, so, where's the violence, Hondo? Compared with Seattle protesters saying "We got to start killing people" and people being knocked out in airports, being sucker punched on sidewalks, having their windows smashed out of their cars, and their cars damaged and destroyed, burnt cop cars and limousines......

    Where's the violence against other people anywhere near the level we've already seen from the Left in 3 weeks, Hondo?

    You're so fucking brainwashed with lefty bullshit that you don't even consider that Reps and the far right are always - labeled and in fact - the "Law and Order" party, which is considered racist and oppressive by the left.
    You sound like a pussy.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    Great talking in circle post.

    Just say I've been ingrained to be self loathing privileged white male and feel as if the only reparation I can make is to dive into a big vat of boiling grease
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,357 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    Great talking in circle post.

    Just say I've been ingrained to be self loathing privileged white male and feel as if the only reparation I can make is to dive into a big vat of boiling grease
    You're both good poasters but the coog is right on this. White guilt leads to a fuck ton of fucktardedness.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,769 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Keep deflecting. The democrats just made the decision to purchase black votes with our tax dollars in 1964. Thanks Lyndon.

    Federal government spends money on 3 things basically, Medicare, Social Security and Defense. Everything else is chicken shit compared to these. LBJ's great society legislation - of which Medicare is by far the largest expenditure to this day - wasn't enacted until 1965. I don't think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 cost the tax payers very much. As someone under 40, I'm a lot more worried about the Medical Establishment treating old white people robbing me blind through Medicare - i.e., generational transfer of wealth - than I am about some amount of welfare going to poor black people. How many old white Trump voters what to keep the "Goverment's Hands" off their Medicare?
    Fixed and eliminated gratuitous racism that suggests blacks don't work and pay Medicare taxes, just like whites.
    Agree on medical industrial complex robbing us. But I think you're missing my point about old white people hypocrisy- i.e., the stereotype of an old white person bitching about minorities getting a handout, when in fact huge transfer payments occur through Medicare. The cost the federal government pays for our medical care when are old - regardless of your race - far exceeds what most ever paid in via Medicare taxes. And, yes, of course, anyone that works, whether they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian, et al, pays into Medicare.
    Great talking in circle post.

    Just say I've been ingrained to be self loathing privileged white male and feel as if the only reparation I can make is to dive into a big vat of boiling grease
    I don't disagree with anyone here regarding the excesses of liberalism and the law of unintended consequences therein. I've been conservative leaning my whole life, but I also accept that a certain amount welfare state is a necessary thing.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    This thread delivers

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,398
    Hondo has kind of a point. That dude that got punched in the face was a straight-up Nazi. Some things are off limits and being a Nazi is one of them.

    And, yeah, growing up in Texas I remember lots of Confederate flags, and nobody really thought much of them. Hell, they used to fly the "six flags of Texas" (Spain, France, Mexico, Texas, Confederacy, USA) in front of the Capitol in Austin (probably not anymore). That and there's a great war memorial there that talks about how noble the Confederacy was rather than treason in defense of slavery. But I digress. Point is, times change.

    The Germans ripped off the band-aid real quick and made anything Nazi illegal, because holy fuck, we murdered the hell out of millions of people. The Japanese have kind of brushed their bullshit under the proverbial tatami mat and hope no-one notices. The Russians tried democracy and free markets, sucked at both, and are now rebranding the CCCP. Us? Well, we've been slow-walking our racism for over 100 years. Once upon a time, bars had "No Dogs or Irish" signs. People discriminated against Germans and Italians and so forth. But none of them had racism written into the Constitution like the three-fifths crowd. "They're" not over it yet. And neither are "we," yet. I don't care if Race married a Negress.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    AZDuck said:

    The Japanese have kind of brushed their bullshit under the proverbial tatami mat and hope no-one notices.

    The japs stalk some of their popular hotel chains with books that dismiss their aggression against China and other countries, and downplay their role in provoking WW2. They haven't and probably never will accept responsibility. Other than that, it's the best nation on Earth. Better than Switzerland. If you are a nip, there is no reason whatsoever to leave Japan. Everywhere else is 2nd or 3rd world. That includes the US.