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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    All I need is anecdotal evidence. And a quick walk out the door to frequent any shitty business tells me there are tons of illegals here.

    Hth

    Engrish please.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    doogie said:

    I'm just happy Refugees who end up in Seattle get to live blow up the Brand New "affordable housing" projects all around the city.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Only Hondo.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Only Hondo.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/

    If you don't like the source, Google it. Even Marco Rubio agrees.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dnc said:

    I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

    It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.

    Other options:

    Repeal the anchor baby law.

    Cut off all public assistance to illegals.

    Punish companies that employ illegals. (Canada has some tough laws in this regard}

    Develop a temporary work visa to allow migrant workers.

    Less Humanitarian option:

    Deploy state National Guards to border and give a two week notice. Shoot on sight anyone trying to cross illegally.
    You do realize illegals don't get public assistance already. And one of the contributing factors to less illegal immigration is that Bush and Obama have increased security, border patrol, and deportations the last 15 years.

    It's almost like you don't understand reality.
    You are such a useful pawn. The benefits begin when the illegal mama starts squirting out the anchor babies. Food stamps, Healthcare, Housing vouchers are all available. Salem has been overrun with illegals who have had their anchor babies here and its a pretty common sight to see an illegal family fill up 2 grocery carts and pay with an EBT, snap, Oregon Trail or whatever you want to call it card and load them up in a late model Escalade or Tahoe.

    And they have flooded our schools with the anchor babies. The youngest ones don't speak Engrish due to their parents not needing to ever learn Engrish themselves. This slows down the whole learning process for those that do speak Engrish and consequently Oregons schools are amongst the worse performing due in no small part to this fact.

    There also is a ton of abuse in the program to boot.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    What the hell are you talking about? You said "illegals don't get public assistance already". That is fucking stupid lie by any and all measures.

    And linking to Politifact as a rebuttal to anything I (didn't) type is just comical...as if they aren't biased or anything. One of many examples...
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-25/politifact-apparently-even-facts-are-subjective-and-based-party-affiliation

    Zero hedge. lol. Fuck off you Texas sodomite.
    Is it February yet???
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Only Hondo.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/

    If you don't like the source, Google it. Even Marco Rubio agrees.
    It's always special to watch useful idiots be played.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dnc said:

    I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

    It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.

    Other options:

    Repeal the anchor baby law.

    Cut off all public assistance to illegals.

    Punish companies that employ illegals. (Canada has some tough laws in this regard}

    Develop a temporary work visa to allow migrant workers.

    Less Humanitarian option:

    Deploy state National Guards to border and give a two week notice. Shoot on sight anyone trying to cross illegally.
    You do realize illegals don't get public assistance already. And one of the contributing factors to less illegal immigration is that Bush and Obama have increased security, border patrol, and deportations the last 15 years.

    It's almost like you don't understand reality.
    You are such a useful pawn. The benefits begin when the illegal mama starts squirting out the anchor babies. Food stamps, Healthcare, Housing vouchers are all available. Salem has been overrun with illegals who have had their anchor babies here and its a pretty common sight to see an illegal family fill up 2 grocery carts and pay with an EBT, snap, Oregon Trail or whatever you want to call it card and load them up in a late model Escalade or Tahoe.

    And they have flooded our schools with the anchor babies. The youngest ones don't speak Engrish due to their parents not needing to ever learn Engrish themselves. This slows down the whole learning process for those that do speak Engrish and consequently Oregons schools are amongst the worse performing due in no small part to this fact.

    There also is a ton of abuse in the program to boot.
    STFU. You've never seen that once unless you are a regular panhandler. It's awesome watching you say you see that regularly while calling me a useful pawn. In the same paragraph even.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited February 2017
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dnc said:

    I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

    It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.

    Other options:

    Repeal the anchor baby law.

    Cut off all public assistance to illegals.

    Punish companies that employ illegals. (Canada has some tough laws in this regard}

    Develop a temporary work visa to allow migrant workers.

    Less Humanitarian option:

    Deploy state National Guards to border and give a two week notice. Shoot on sight anyone trying to cross illegally.
    You do realize illegals don't get public assistance already. And one of the contributing factors to less illegal immigration is that Bush and Obama have increased security, border patrol, and deportations the last 15 years.

    It's almost like you don't understand reality.
    You are such a useful pawn. The benefits begin when the illegal mama starts squirting out the anchor babies. Food stamps, Healthcare, Housing vouchers are all available. Salem has been overrun with illegals who have had their anchor babies here and its a pretty common sight to see an illegal family fill up 2 grocery carts and pay with an EBT, snap, Oregon Trail or whatever you want to call it card and load them up in a late model Escalade or Tahoe.

    And they have flooded our schools with the anchor babies. The youngest ones don't speak Engrish due to their parents not needing to ever learn Engrish themselves. This slows down the whole learning process for those that do speak Engrish and consequently Oregons schools are amongst the worse performing due in no small part to this fact.

    There also is a ton of abuse in the program to boot.
    STFU. You've never seen that once unless you are a regular panhandler. It's awesome watching you say you see that regularly while calling me a useful pawn. In the same paragraph even.
    Unfortunately I see it just about everytime I shop at Winco. So its witnessed fact. Not a Hondo cut n paste from Wikipedia or a hack website. You should leave the basement every now and then.








    Or DIAFF.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dnc said:

    I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

    It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.

    Other options:

    Repeal the anchor baby law.

    Cut off all public assistance to illegals.

    Punish companies that employ illegals. (Canada has some tough laws in this regard}

    Develop a temporary work visa to allow migrant workers.

    Less Humanitarian option:

    Deploy state National Guards to border and give a two week notice. Shoot on sight anyone trying to cross illegally.
    You do realize illegals don't get public assistance already. And one of the contributing factors to less illegal immigration is that Bush and Obama have increased security, border patrol, and deportations the last 15 years.

    It's almost like you don't understand reality.
    You are such a useful pawn. The benefits begin when the illegal mama starts squirting out the anchor babies. Food stamps, Healthcare, Housing vouchers are all available. Salem has been overrun with illegals who have had their anchor babies here and its a pretty common sight to see an illegal family fill up 2 grocery carts and pay with an EBT, snap, Oregon Trail or whatever you want to call it card and load them up in a late model Escalade or Tahoe.

    And they have flooded our schools with the anchor babies. The youngest ones don't speak Engrish due to their parents not needing to ever learn Engrish themselves. This slows down the whole learning process for those that do speak Engrish and consequently Oregons schools are amongst the worse performing due in no small part to this fact.

    There also is a ton of abuse in the program to boot.
    STFU. You've never seen that once unless you are a regular panhandler. It's awesome watching you say you see that regularly while calling me a useful pawn. In the same paragraph even.
    Unfortunately I see it just about everytime I shop at Winco. So its witnessed fact. Not a Hondo cut n paste from Wikipedia or a hack website. You should leave the basement every now and then.








    Or DIAFF.
    Take a picture next time at WinCo. Or STFU.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    All I need is anecdotal evidence. And a quick walk out the door to frequent any shitty business tells me there are tons of illegals here.

    Hth

    Go to any Home Depot south of Tahoe and west of Louisiana.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    Then why are you in perpetual menstruation over immigration?

    who the fuck is going to be my tree guy now?

    and the Mexicans aren't blowing up buses in downtown LA. Yet.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    You have to love HondoFS in this thread...from claiming illegals don't get any public assistance (contrary to all reality/data) to thinking black youth unemployment magically dropping to 18% from 50+% in a year (because Politifact told him so...) to not comprehending Godwin's Law.

    HondoFS...

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    You have to love HondoFS in this thread...from claiming illegals don't get any public assistance (contrary to all reality/data) to thinking black youth unemployment magically dropping to 18% from 50+% in a year (because Politifact told him so...) to not comprehending Godwin's Law.

    HondoFS...

    Again you didn't read the two politifact articles. If you did you'd see how fucktarded that statement is.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    2001400ex said:

    You have to love HondoFS in this thread...from claiming illegals don't get any public assistance (contrary to all reality/data) to thinking black youth unemployment magically dropping to 18% from 50+% in a year (because Politifact told him so...) to not comprehending Godwin's Law.

    HondoFS...

    Again you didn't read the two politifact articles. If you did you'd see how fucktarded that statement is.
    Is this you 55 IQ response to everything...you must not have read it? I read it, and the quotes cited are 100% accurate. You said they were false, so correct them or keep fucking off.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033
    I hate what my thread has become
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    BearsWiin said:

    I hate what my thread has become

    It's devolved into civil war. The libfascists might eventually get a real one if they don't back off this shit. Their NWO pc agenda was sternly rebuked in elections all over the cuntry. And their fucktardedness in Europe will result in the disbanding of the EU. In the Orwellian dreckfest of Cuntada to the North, a comedian was fined $45,000 just for telling a joke. You pay fines or can go to jail for saying the wrong thing. In Doucheland Merkel will send her gestapo to your home and raid it if you poast anything against the moslem invasion or her retarded immigration policy.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    BearsWiin said:

    I hate what my thread has become

    It's devolved into civil war. The libfascists might eventually get a real one if they don't back off this shit. Their NWO pc agenda was sternly rebuked in elections all over the cuntry. And their fucktardedness in Europe will result in the disbanding of the EU. In the Orwellian dreckfest of Cuntada to the North, a comedian was fined $45,000 just for telling a joke. You pay fines or can go to jail for saying the wrong thing. In Doucheland Merkel will send her gestapo to your home and raid it if you poast anything against the moslem invasion or her retarded immigration policy.
    You are so mad.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited February 2017

    BearsWiin said:

    I hate what my thread has become

    It's devolved into civil war. The libfascists might eventually get a real one if they don't back off this shit. Their NWO pc agenda was sternly rebuked in elections all over the cuntry. And their fucktardedness in Europe will result in the disbanding of the EU. In the Orwellian dreckfest of Cuntada to the North, a comedian was fined $45,000 just for telling a joke. You pay fines or can go to jail for saying the wrong thing. In Doucheland Merkel will send her gestapo to your home and raid it if you poast anything against the moslem invasion or her retarded immigration policy.
    You are so mad.
    The entire West is under threat from the Muzlims on the outside and the totalitarianism of the left on the inside.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    BearsWiin said:

    I hate what my thread has become

    It's devolved into civil war. The libfascists might eventually get a real one if they don't back off this shit. Their NWO pc agenda was sternly rebuked in elections all over the cuntry. And their fucktardedness in Europe will result in the disbanding of the EU. In the Orwellian dreckfest of Cuntada to the North, a comedian was fined $45,000 just for telling a joke. You pay fines or can go to jail for saying the wrong thing. In Doucheland Merkel will send her gestapo to your home and raid it if you poast anything against the moslem invasion or her retarded immigration policy.
    You are so mad.
    The entire West is under threat from the Muzlims on the outside and the totalitarianism of the left on the inside.
    You seem troubled.
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