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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,142 Standard Supporter

    He's my neighbor.

    Wait...he's the guy whose fence you jumped after getting caught fucking his daughter?!?!

    Wow.

    Ballsy. Kudos.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    have an Attorney General who understnads and respects the Constitution

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    BIG BALLS BOB

    Is he cross-eyed? Or what's going on there?
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited February 2017

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,033
    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    Pretty easy to tear the EO apart if the court uses any heightened scrutiny, but on rational basis alone the feds stand a good chance of prevailing if for no other reason than the onus being on the WA AG to show no rational basis behind the EO.
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Then why are you in perpetual menstruation over immigration?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Then why are you in perpetual menstruation over immigration?

    Me? I just said the Muslim ban is a joke. And the constitutional judges agree.

    HTH
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    My post concerned the cost to taxpayers, not the number of people entering or exiting the country. If you have a study showing that tax revenue the US receives from illegal immigration exceeding the cost, I would consider that.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Dude61 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    My post concerned the cost to taxpayers, not the number of people entering or exiting the country. If you have a study showing that tax revenue the US receives from illegal immigration exceeding the cost, I would consider that.
    So you are saying you want to keep the illegals in with a wall then?
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Not to mention a wall wouldn't even stop many of the people who do come here illegally.

    Combine that with the net migration out and the fact that 40% overstay their visas it's an absolutely stupid idea
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    dhdawg said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Not to mention a wall wouldn't even stop many of the people who do come here illegally.

    Combine that with the net migration out and the fact that 40% overstay their visas it's an absolutely stupid idea
    The cost to build the wall is far less than the annual burden on taxpayers to support illegal immigration. Speculating that building a wall will not stop illegals is just, speculation.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Not to mention a wall wouldn't even stop many of the people who do come here illegally.

    Combine that with the net migration out and the fact that 40% overstay their visas it's an absolutely stupid idea
    The cost to build the wall is far less than the annual burden on taxpayers to support illegal immigration. Speculating that building a wall will not stop illegals is just, speculation.
    Speculating that it will is just speculation
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You read a study by FAIR? What other methods are there? Dude61 sounds really smart -- lots of education and skills. Can't wait to hear more.
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    dhdawg said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Not to mention a wall wouldn't even stop many of the people who do come here illegally.

    Combine that with the net migration out and the fact that 40% overstay their visas it's an absolutely stupid idea
    The cost to build the wall is far less than the annual burden on taxpayers to support illegal immigration. Speculating that building a wall will not stop illegals is just, speculation.
    Speculating that it will is just speculation
    We have real life examples that a wall will work. Consider the wall Israel built.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Dude61 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    My post concerned the cost to taxpayers, not the number of people entering or exiting the country. If you have a study showing that tax revenue the US receives from illegal immigration exceeding the cost, I would consider that.
    If only there had been studies about the net public cost to taxpayers from illegal immigration!! Why didn't I think of that? The rest of you troomps could learn a thing or two from Dude61.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    @CirrhosisDawg: Could you be more insecure? It reeks, man. Give it a rest.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    @CirrhosisDawg: Could you be more insecure? It reeks, man. Give it a rest.

    Very good point. You sound as smart as Dude61.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726
    I feel dirty but I'm with the bored libs here. The wall is going to be massively ineffective. It won't solve people overstaying their visas, it won't solve the millions who are already here (and will likely encourage a surge of those coming/decrease of those returning south before it is in place), and it won't solve the tunnels.

    It's a massively expensive partial solution. To me it's not close to worth it.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude61 said:

    dhdawg said:

    Really? To me, it seems like a waste of time and taxpayer money, but to each their own

    Until we scrap this idea of a worthless 15 billion dollar border wall I don't want to hear about anything "wasting taxpayer money"

    FWIW I think this may get overturned
    I read a study by FAIR that estimated the total burden on taxpayers in 2013 for illegal immigration exceeded $113 billion. The burden on Washington State in 2013 was $1.4 billion. A $15 billion investment in a wall has a quick payback. ONTH, there are other, cheaper ways to break the will of anyone wanting to cross the border illegally, and forcing those here illegally to leave.
    You do realize there's been basically a net migration by Mexicans out of America, right? Not to mention about half of illegal immigrants actually enter the country legally.

    So a wall is a solution without a problem.
    Not to mention a wall wouldn't even stop many of the people who do come here illegally.

    Combine that with the net migration out and the fact that 40% overstay their visas it's an absolutely stupid idea
    The cost to build the wall is far less than the annual burden on taxpayers to support illegal immigration. Speculating that building a wall will not stop illegals is just, speculation.
    Speculating that it will is just speculation
    We have real life examples that a wall will work. Consider the wall Israel built.
    Israel walled out the Palestinian vermin and magically the bus bombings stopped. It works. Open orders is as fucktarded as not having a lock on your door. Any dumpster muffin who wants to can wander off the street, steal your things, two hole your wife or kill your ass. It's just common sense.
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