Typos aside I made my point. You guys are veering elsewhere.
The point was in response to the post that the transgender thing is overplay by the conservatives of a liberal value.
The left brought this one to the table and it is a big deal to them. Ask North Carolina.
No. Transgender people brought this to the table and conservatives freaked the fuck out.
No such thing as transgendered people. You are what you were born as. Can't change the DNA. Tired of this BS. Perverted retards are not special nor deserving of special treatment.
Oh God here we go. Please leave the Republican party and start your own. There is a parting gift at the door.
I'll maintain Hilary losing and The Donald winning is the best thing that could have happened to this country at this particular time.
The guy is going to go balls deep on the rest of the world and that's not a bad thing. America FIRST.
All the world that has been leaching off our teet and weakening our influence will be put on notice. We've been the gullible grandma willing to blindly write a blank check to our crackhead underlings for way too long.
The left preaches tolerance, but suddenly it's an issue that our President has a positive relationship with Russia. Putin respects trump because he knows that the dude will end him if he fucks around.
Finally a leader that will call a spade a spade, how refreshing.
First stop on this so called balls deep tour: CIA headquarters to whine about how many people came to the inauguration in front of the 117 memorial stars.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
Back then it was about people not being able to have access to the information to choose the right candidate. Now it's about sites like breitbart and news like fox.
The Dems lost because they chose a shit candidate and no good candidate stepped up better than the shit candidate. Trump's win was like when the Rams beat the Browns.
Disagree. If you are a liberal democrat, Hillary is a fine candidate.
They lost because they mangled the campaign. Period. She is perfectly electable. She's just a shitty showman and she pandered to her party's current "obsession with cultural issues." That and the mangling of the immigration issue is what killed her.
Any liberal would tell you that Hillary is not a liberal. She made to many mistakes in the campaign to discuss. And I don't think the rust belt States that elected her were ready for a female president.
Mabye - I can agree with all that, and I also agree that she's not the most liberal of liberals - but she's pretty fucking liberal my friend. At least on the big issues.
She's not liberal at fucking all. Fuck off with this bullshit.
Not liberal at all? Really?
Hey, did someone hit you over the head with something at the women's march today?
You've turned into a dumb faggot.
While you were away, apag started out as a Bernie bot but following clinton's nomination he went back to his jilted lover race as a trump backer. "Wall Street.!1" "Establishment!1" usual white trash shrieking.
First of all, I don't even know who you are but thanks for keeping tabs on my every political decision. It's nice to have fans.
Second, neither Race nor myself has ever "jilted" the other. It's always been love.
You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.
Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
Not anymore. We are in a new world kid. My very first post in this thread comes back to THAT VERY FUCKING POINT.
After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
Trump is president because the commies came out of the closet. Won't see the "progressive" dems in control for a long time.
When you wake up from your nap, let me know. I don't even know what you're saying here.
The Dems lost because they chose a shit candidate and no good candidate stepped up better than the shit candidate. Trump's win was like when the Rams beat the Browns.
Disagree. If you are a liberal democrat, Hillary is a fine candidate.
They lost because they mangled the campaign. Period. She is perfectly electable. She's just a shitty showman and she pandered to her party's current "obsession with cultural issues." That and the mangling of the immigration issue is what killed her.
Any liberal would tell you that Hillary is not a liberal. She made to many mistakes in the campaign to discuss. And I don't think the rust belt States that elected her were ready for a female president.
Mabye - I can agree with all that, and I also agree that she's not the most liberal of liberals - but she's pretty fucking liberal my friend. At least on the big issues.
She's not liberal at fucking all. Fuck off with this bullshit.
Not liberal at all? Really?
Hey, did someone hit you over the head with something at the women's march today?
You've turned into a dumb faggot.
While you were away, apag started out as a Bernie bot but following clinton's nomination he went back to his jilted lover race as a trump backer. "Wall Street.!1" "Establishment!1" usual white trash shrieking.
First of all, I don't even know who you are but thanks for keeping tabs on my every political decision. It's nice to have fans.
Second, neither Race nor myself has ever "jilted" the other. It's always been love.
You and race. A match made in white trash heaven.
Uneducated white trash made you it's bitch in November. Maybe you should STFU, Cunt.
My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.
Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.
Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
And my point is that the founding fathers' intent in the electoral college was preventing the populace from electing a moron, not giving power to lower populated states. That's an incidental result of congress not expanding since 1912.
Campaigns focus on a handful of swing states and ignore large swaths of the country as it is.
My point was that Founders could have made the election based off of the total popular vote rather than the Electoral College. It shouldn't be enough for a candidate to win based off of the states that have big populations (California, New York, Illinois) and thankfully it isn't.
Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country.
Hillary won more votes in Dem bastions of Big Government but she obviously didn't win the swing states. The Founders' wisdom predicted that large states and large populations could push around smaller states. The 13 states wouldn't have come together if not for those foundations because they were worried Virginia (the most populated state at the time and 3 out of the first 4 presidents came from VA) would exert undue influence.
As for the word "Socialist", why don't you think people should be scared of it? Even since the Bolshevik Revolution, tens of millions of people have died from deprivation, starvation, and war initiated by those attempting to infect others with the Red Menace.
Of course France hasn't started in 147 years but their version of Socialism has led to economic stagnation, declining world influence, and the diminishing of their culture / security due to Muslim immigration and terrorism.
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
That's not why the electoral college was created. Citizens didn't even vote for a candidate, they voted for an elector. Congress was actually proportionally distributed back then too. There was no intent in offering higher representation for farmers.
"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."
The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
it was also created as a compromise to protect slave states. but let's not bring that up
There's a reason a goofy socialist who's 75 and might be an atheist was so successful. A lot of liberals were turned off by her warmongering, and corruption
Yeah, but she won the fucking ticket, and those "turned off" liberals sure as fuck did not vote for Trump.
Trump is not in office because Hillary wasn't liberal enough. Jesus guys. Remember what we're discussing.
No - Hillary spent too much time in the south to be a Bay Area liberal. She's been in politics at the highest levels way too long to not have some dirt under her nails, and she may just be more centrist than a chick who doesn't shave her arm pits would like.
It doesn't mean she's not liberal. She's fucking liberal from where I stand.
She won the ticket because the people pulling the purse strings behind the scenes and the DNC wanted her to. If Sanders was given a fair shot, he probably would have.
I don't think that's true. Hillary won the votes. Too many people are scared of the word socialist and don't understand it.
You're partially right. Crooked Hillary won the democrat playoffs and did so by procuring more regular delegate votes than Crazy Bernie, in addition to the overwhelming majority of superdelegate votes. She won by any measure.
However, the final margin was no doubt influenced by the political elite within the Party of Tolerance. Her win was guaranteed before the first vote was cast, the DNC made sure of that as WikiLeaks exposed, from scheduling debates when no one was watching to wrapping up and gifting her the vast majority of superdelegate votes. The party of RJ Daley and LBJ is alive and well. Gotta love it.
Um no. You think the political elite can sway millions and millions of votes? You don't think the RNC internal correspondence wasn't the exact same as the DNC? The primary difference was Bernie only had one person to compete with. Trump had 17 so he could win with 35% of the vote.
when every single democratic politician sans like 1% are endorsing a single candidate and many of the primaries are closed with strict registration rules to suppress the independent and first time voter crowds it makes an impact. along with the debate schedule and everything else listed.
Enough to change the outcome, probably not, but an impact
The RNC was very open about fucking Trump. That's what made the win even more satisfying. You don't need secret emails when your establishment is Never Trump and Romney is public-ally calling him a scum bag
Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts
The RNC was very open about fucking Trump. That's what made the win even more satisfying. You don't need secret emails when your establishment is Never Trump and Romney is public-ally calling him a scum bag
Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts
Oh so they were open about fucking Trump but didn't discuss it over email. OK!
You are basically saying the wikileaks you keep harping on was the same at the RNC. Except they were open about it.
The RNC was very open about fucking Trump. That's what made the win even more satisfying. You don't need secret emails when your establishment is Never Trump and Romney is public-ally calling him a scum bag
Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts
Oh so they were open about fucking Trump but didn't discuss it over email. OK!
You are basically saying the wikileaks you keep harping on was the same at the RNC. Except they were open about it.
Um you're working too fucking hard. My dog knows that the RNC was scared shitless about the possibility of what actually happened actually happening because they know how fucking stupid 98% of the people in this country are.
Bernie and Hillary was a completely different scenario…
^ THIS @dnc is yet another example of why those of us who decry that our once honorable party has been hijacked by religious fundies and goof ball ideologues are not celebrating in the streets.
The bounce back after he's done could be staggering, paving the way for a Bernie -level socialist to finally make it all the way. The concern, in short, is that Trump will fuck it up the too much.
When the poor white trash in the Grays Harbor and Mason counties of the country don't have a black guy to fire at anymore, and then begin to realize they have as much in common with a prep school educated Manhattan developer as they do with the man on the moon, they'll flip back to whomever the Dems throw at them. All they'll have to do is learn the lesson Hillary learned the hard way: say the word "jobs" early and often, promise you'll return the free benies Trump took away, don't mention immigration at all, lie about taxes, say something about a swamp, and for all that is holy, don't parade around or connect your candidacy with a black dude married to an uppity black woman.
If they do all that, and they will, the poor white trash will put them right back in power.
And then we're good and fucked and will live like the Swedes in no time.
McConnell, Ryan and Donnie are TERRIBLE Republicans. I need my party to get back to the point where a dummy like Rubio with no chops can't rise to leadership. Where the religious loons like Cruz are kept in a fringe box. Fuck these guys make Rand Paul seem resosonable.
America just elected Pat Buchanon essentially.
Eh, not so sure.
Donnie is not a religious fundie. Those dudes are a breed apart and you really need to keep an eye on 'em. They're fucking banana mystics who have more in common with radical Islam than they do w/ me. When you start making policy based on shit you read in a 2,000 year old book or that came to you in a dream, you're a fucking banana.
That's not Donnie. Donnie was an average kid with average abilities who happened to be born to a father who was hungry, relatively intelligent, hard working and brass balled - and a little lucky. The fact that he attended Wharton is of no relevance - back then it wasn't like it is today - money could buy you into any school, and that's how Donnie got to Penn. If he'd been academically gifted, he'd have gone to Harvard or Princeton or Yale. In those days, Penn was the blue collar school of the Ivy League. Now it's Cornell.
Back to the point - he's a guy who, as @dnc pointed out, by accident of his birth, is very used to getting whatever he wants, and he is also a guy who doesn't seem to be aware of his own mortality. 70 year old dudes who are still vein and afraid of being bald are just mentally somewhere else. This is not the even-tempered, good judgement man you want in the chair. He's a competitive, immature, somewhat-but-not-super smart, supremely self-indulgent, Brooklyn smart ass who, despite his wealth, age, position and good fortune in life, is still just a little insecure. I have the sense that he was once quite a splash as a decent-looking eligible bachelor among the Manhattan elite, but somehow over time morphed into a clown to those people. I think his ego is still locked in on that 80s time in his life.
And, we all know he doesn't really know what he's doing. His self-indulgence will make him eat voraciously for a while as this very novel experience keeps him distracted, and that will be ok, because everyone is still in such shock that nothing he does will phase. The protesters will keep on protesting the fact that he's even there, and his supporters will watch and wonder when it's time for them to jump from the train. But they'll all conclude it's too early right now. Eventually, though, Donnie will get bored and start shitting the bed in some way, shape or form. That's when it's going to hit the fan - that's when even the real right wingers will start to scurry from the sinking ship.
But if you think Donald J. Trump gives two shits about God or abortion, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.
Penn the blue-collar school of the ivies? Lol it's always been Cornell...
^ THIS @dnc is yet another example of why those of us who decry that our once honorable party has been hijacked by religious fundies and goof ball ideologues are not celebrating in the streets.
The bounce back after he's done could be staggering, paving the way for a Bernie -level socialist to finally make it all the way. The concern, in short, is that Trump will fuck it up the too much.
When the poor white trash in the Grays Harbor and Mason counties of the country don't have a black guy to fire at anymore, and then begin to realize they have as much in common with a prep school educated Manhattan developer as they do with the man on the moon, they'll flip back to whomever the Dems throw at them. All they'll have to do is learn the lesson Hillary learned the hard way: say the word "jobs" early and often, promise you'll return the free benies Trump took away, don't mention immigration at all, lie about taxes, say something about a swamp, and for all that is holy, don't parade around or connect your candidacy with a black dude married to an uppity black woman.
If they do all that, and they will, the poor white trash will put them right back in power.
And then we're good and fucked and will live like the Swedes in no time.
McConnell, Ryan and Donnie are TERRIBLE Republicans. I need my party to get back to the point where a dummy like Rubio with no chops can't rise to leadership. Where the religious loons like Cruz are kept in a fringe box. Fuck these guys make Rand Paul seem resosonable.
America just elected Pat Buchanon essentially.
Eh, not so sure.
Donnie is not a religious fundie. Those dudes are a breed apart and you really need to keep an eye on 'em. They're fucking banana mystics who have more in common with radical Islam than they do w/ me. When you start making policy based on shit you read in a 2,000 year old book or that came to you in a dream, you're a fucking banana.
That's not Donnie. Donnie was an average kid with average abilities who happened to be born to a father who was hungry, relatively intelligent, hard working and brass balled - and a little lucky. The fact that he attended Wharton is of no relevance - back then it wasn't like it is today - money could buy you into any school, and that's how Donnie got to Penn. If he'd been academically gifted, he'd have gone to Harvard or Princeton or Yale. In those days, Penn was the blue collar school of the Ivy League. Now it's Cornell.
Back to the point - he's a guy who, as @dnc pointed out, by accident of his birth, is very used to getting whatever he wants, and he is also a guy who doesn't seem to be aware of his own mortality. 70 year old dudes who are still vein and afraid of being bald are just mentally somewhere else. This is not the even-tempered, good judgement man you want in the chair. He's a competitive, immature, somewhat-but-not-super smart, supremely self-indulgent, Brooklyn smart ass who, despite his wealth, age, position and good fortune in life, is still just a little insecure. I have the sense that he was once quite a splash as a decent-looking eligible bachelor among the Manhattan elite, but somehow over time morphed into a clown to those people. I think his ego is still locked in on that 80s time in his life.
And, we all know he doesn't really know what he's doing. His self-indulgence will make him eat voraciously for a while as this very novel experience keeps him distracted, and that will be ok, because everyone is still in such shock that nothing he does will phase. The protesters will keep on protesting the fact that he's even there, and his supporters will watch and wonder when it's time for them to jump from the train. But they'll all conclude it's too early right now. Eventually, though, Donnie will get bored and start shitting the bed in some way, shape or form. That's when it's going to hit the fan - that's when even the real right wingers will start to scurry from the sinking ship.
But if you think Donald J. Trump gives two shits about God or abortion, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.
Penn the blue-collar school of the ivies? Lol it's always been Cornell...
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After Trump is done fucking things up, with the help of his idiot friends in Congress, there will be a bounce-back house cleaning, and Bernie or someone like him will be elected by a fucking landslide.
The right had a chance to do its thing and continue to wield some influence. They get the whole party cake now for four years. When they're passed out from a sugar coma the liberals, who've been outside doing push ups, are going to storm back in and do what they do.
Take it from Alexander Hamilton: The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
Back then it was about people not being able to have access to the information to choose the right candidate. Now it's about sites like breitbart and news like fox.
Trump won 29 states to Hillary's 21 and also won 3,084 of 3,141 counties while Clinton won just 57. So the Electoral College is wonderful because it prevents the Tyranny of the Majority and Presidents from totally ignoring large swaths of the country. The electoral college was created primarily because they didn't trust the populace to not elect a smooth talking moron. Whoops.
And my point is that the founding fathers' intent in the electoral college was preventing the populace from electing a moron, not giving power to lower populated states. That's an incidental result of congress not expanding since 1912.
Campaigns focus on a handful of swing states and ignore large swaths of the country as it is.
it was also created as a compromise to protect slave states. but let's not bring that up
Enough to change the outcome, probably not, but an impact
Hondo's dream of RNC emails is pure bullshit like the rest of his posts
You are basically saying the wikileaks you keep harping on was the same at the RNC. Except they were open about it.
Bernie and Hillary was a completely different scenario…