So Browning is a sophomore
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Ever heard of Pete Carroll?whlinder said:Q for the bored.
I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same? -
I don't think Pete Caroll's players are hearing him anymoreDennis_DeYoung said:
Ever heard of Pete Carroll?whlinder said:Q for the bored.
I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same? -
Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
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Unless Brownsocks suddenly sprouts to 6'5 and can spin the ball like Carson it ain't happening.whlinder said:Q for the bored.
I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same? -
And here's the shitter about it. All through spring ball, fall camp, and the regular season next year he's going to have to hear about how he has played against legit defenses, plus I don't see a "big game" for him to exercise that demon until SC in the Pac-12 Champ. Game where it very well could be winner to the playoffs loser to a bowl game other than the Rose as they get one of the semi-finals.Dennis_DeYoung said:
If the problem were his skill, then I would agree.TTJ said:With this staff, assuming *any* second-year player won't continue to improve is FS. Especially a guy who works as hard as Browning.
Browning wasn't great in the Peach Bowl, obviously. He made one clearly disastrous decision, and missed on plenty of other throws. But after all the Brownsockery in November, I really feared he'd come out looking like a deer in headlights against Bammer. He didn't. The moment wasn't too big for him. He was merely imperfect.
Browning is never gonna be Vince Young. But he's a pretty deadly weapon already, and he's only been on campus two years. Also, he will never face another college D as dominant as that one -- not even when UW rematches with Bammer next year.
The problem is he is one of the biggest chokers I've ever seen and he's done it literally since his first game here.
The problem is mental.
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He'll get his confurdence back playing Rutgers, Montana and Fresno st
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it wasn't a wide reciever screen.Doogles said:The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.
Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.
We needed to be perfect and we weren't.
Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down -
No. It was a designed swing pass to #22. It speaks horribly to our experience and OC. On experience, McGary doesn't look inside on a classic zone blitz. His DE takes a step forward and fades to cover the RB. The blitz comes to his inside gap and he doesn't look there. Straight shot at QB.dhdawg said:
it wasn't a wide reciever screen.Doogles said:The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.
Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.
We needed to be perfect and we weren't.
Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down
It's awful coaching because Bama knew that play based upon our playing calling in that situation throughout the year. They schemed to it. It was obvious. A good counter would've been to fake the short field swing pass and lay it out to the wide side to Gaskin with 10yds in front. -
While Browning is a great QB against bad and mid level College teams, He doesn't have the tools for the show. With that said, He doesn't have to be all that good for you guys to win 10-12 games in the next couple of seasons. However once you get to the playoff or other NY6 games, his warts are and will continue to be visible.
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BUT HES ONLY A SOPHOMORE!!!!!!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sometimes with how critical this board is of everything it seems like it gets forgotten he was a true sophomore. I think it's because we are scarred from the Sark years, and think a player wont improve and will infact get worse the longer he staysHuskyClaws said:He improved a ton this year over last year. He still has lots of room to improve. Hopefully he can make that similar jump next year and perform well against the good defenses we face.
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You be conservative at the end of the half within 3 pts. What you don't do is be Conservative when down 17-7 in the 4th quarter and punt on 4th and 2 near the 50 yard line. Peterson more or less threw the white flag there whether he realized it or not.Dennis_DeYoung said:
So... your logic is as follows:njla said:I wasn't one thinking we should sit on it at the end of the half. We got there; now try to fucking win. Can't win playing scared. Glad most here aren't coaching this team. Wouldn't win shit with that scared mentality.
They tried; they failed. Now come back again next year and try again.
A strategy that PROVED to be the worst possible strategy and contributed heavily to the loss is better than a more conservative strategy that wouldn't have contributed to the loss, because conservative strategies are bad. And you are smart because you know this.
Forget the avatar, just fucking kill yourself. -
Which is dumb because Stanford, Oregon, and Utah were all big games when they were played. Browning has a toughness, if you watch him stiff arm the Bama lineman. He'll perform next year. It more has to do with Smith not finding the right game plan for his skills. It's Smith's job to make Browning succeed.godawgst said:
And here's the shitter about it. All through spring ball, fall camp, and the regular season next year he's going to have to hear about how he has played against legit defenses, plus I don't see a "big game" for him to exercise that demon until SC in the Pac-12 Champ. Game where it very well could be winner to the playoffs loser to a bowl game other than the Rose as they get one of the semi-finals.Dennis_DeYoung said:
If the problem were his skill, then I would agree.TTJ said:With this staff, assuming *any* second-year player won't continue to improve is FS. Especially a guy who works as hard as Browning.
Browning wasn't great in the Peach Bowl, obviously. He made one clearly disastrous decision, and missed on plenty of other throws. But after all the Brownsockery in November, I really feared he'd come out looking like a deer in headlights against Bammer. He didn't. The moment wasn't too big for him. He was merely imperfect.
Browning is never gonna be Vince Young. But he's a pretty deadly weapon already, and he's only been on campus two years. Also, he will never face another college D as dominant as that one -- not even when UW rematches with Bammer next year.
The problem is he is one of the biggest chokers I've ever seen and he's done it literally since his first game here.
The problem is mental. -
Serious question, when you have you ever seen a successful FCS head coach leave for a fucking position coach job?doogie said:Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
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Pete Carroll, the defensive coach who doesn't even touch the QB position? Sark was Palmer's QB coach at USC.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Ever heard of Pete Carroll?whlinder said:Q for the bored.
I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same? -
His offenses look great in a conference that plays no defense. And he once lucked out with VAJ, But beating the Cuogs in September doesn't take much, nor does beating OSU, or scoring 50 against Nick Holt's porous UW defense.doogie said:Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
He would likely top out around Smiff's Mountain West level in the Pac12. -
Chip Kelly, Oregon Ducks. (Fucked that up)GreenRiverGatorz said:
Serious question, when you have you ever seen a successful FCS head coach leave for a fucking position coach job?doogie said:Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
Moorhead, Penn State(Fordham hc to OC/Qb)
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Carroll's first year at USC was Palmer's junior year. And he sucked.
Palmer was 6'5" with a strong arm his first 4 years (including an injury redshirt). He sucked.
Seriously, going in to his senior year, he had thrown the same number of TDs as INTs in his USC career. And then he lit it up. -
I'm going to just go ahead and disregard anything you say because you're a well-documented dumbfuck.salemcoog said:While Browning is a great QB against bad and mid level College teams, He doesn't have the tools for the show. With that said, He doesn't have to be all that good for you guys to win 10-12 games in the next couple of seasons. However once you get to the playoff or other NY6 games, his warts are and will continue to be visible.
Browning is going to get better because he has coaches that will make him better. It's rare to find a soph QB that can win at the peak level of college football, and Jake isn't like Billy Joe.
Still, I think the chances of you having any fucking idea where Browning will be a year from now is pretty close to zero.
So fuck off. -
Great teachable moments.AEB said:
No. It was a designed swing pass to #22. It speaks horribly to our experience and OC. On experience, McGary doesn't look inside on a classic zone blitz. His DE takes a step forward and fades to cover the RB. The blitz comes to his inside gap and he doesn't look there. Straight shot at QB.dhdawg said:
it wasn't a wide reciever screen.Doogles said:The play call was fucking horrible, but I'm not against trying to get 3 there with Bama getting the ball after half. They were swollowing our receiver screens all day.
Browning didn't light the world on fire, but people act like arguably the best D in college football history wasn't shit shoving the OL with 4 rushers and blanketing our playmakers.
We needed to be perfect and we weren't.
Kill Smith. This team can win a championship with Browning. Just not this year against Sabans best team.
I don't even think it was a called swing pass, just a really bad ill-advised check down
It's awful coaching because Bama knew that play based upon our playing calling in that situation throughout the year. They schemed to it. It was obvious. A good counter would've been to fake the short field swing pass and lay it out to the wide side to Gaskin with 10yds in front. -
What the fuck are you talking about? Kelly left as New Hampshire's OC to become Oregon's OC. And I said position coach, not coordinator. Leaving as an FCS HC to become an FBS coordinator is not unheard of. To become an FBS position coach is.doogie said:
Chip Kelly, Oregon Ducks. (Fucked that up)GreenRiverGatorz said:
Serious question, when you have you ever seen a successful FCS head coach leave for a fucking position coach job?doogie said:Serious question: wtf is wrong with hiring Beau Baldwin as qb coach?
Moorhead, Penn State(Fordham hc to OC/Qb)
pay me bitch -
Please don't argue over the twice-failed, twice-fired fat little fucker Chip Kelly.
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I'm just tired of small, weak, cerebral QB's.
Browning's pick before half was because he got scared of getting hit and just threw the ball.
I commented in the game thread that he will yell, "Yeah Bitch" at Utah State or the point against Oregon, but he would never do that shit against Alabama. -
He got away with the one against Colorado when Ross bailed him out. No doubt he had a similar feeling when he threw that one to Coleman.RoadDawg55 said:I'm just tired of small, weak, cerebral QB's.
Browning's pick before half was because he got scared of getting hit and just threw the ball.
I commented in the game thread that he will yell, "Yeah Bitch" at Utah State or the point against Oregon, but he would never do that shit against Alabama. -
Agreed. It'll be interesting whether Sirmon has the intangibles Pete likes with the NFL arm. If so, watch out.RoadDawg55 said:I'm just tired of small, weak, cerebral QB's.
Browning's pick before half was because he got scared of getting hit and just threw the ball.
I commented in the game thread that he will yell, "Yeah Bitch" at Utah State or the point against Oregon, but he would never do that shit against Alabama. -
I'll take cerebral, but he needs to get his ass in the weight room and get over the small and weak malfunction.RoadDawg55 said:I'm just tired of small, weak, cerebral QB's.
Browning's pick before half was because he got scared of getting hit and just threw the ball.
I commented in the game thread that he will yell, "Yeah Bitch" at Utah State or the point against Oregon, but he would never do that shit against Alabama.
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Jake had a good QB coach all through HS. That's why he could play in the Pac12 as a true frosh. Since HS, it's as though he's had no QB coaching. Lots of film-watching, but very little physical development after 2 years. His arm is no stronger, and his throws have not markedly improved, especially his long throws. Seems plain as day to me that the OC/QB coach has fallen far short of what's needed for offensive success against elite teams.
Who can honestly defend Smiff at this point in his tenure? -
Dennis_DeYoung said:
Ever heard of Pete Carroll?whlinder said:Q for the bored.
I remember Carson Palmer being absolute shit for 3 years and then exploding as a senior. What changed with him and why can't Brownsocks do the same?
So which Coaches are those????dflea said:
I'm going to just go ahead and disregard anything you say because you're a well-documented dumbfuck.salemcoog said:While Browning is a great QB against bad and mid level College teams, He doesn't have the tools for the show. With that said, He doesn't have to be all that good for you guys to win 10-12 games in the next couple of seasons. However once you get to the playoff or other NY6 games, his warts are and will continue to be visible.
Browning is going to get better because he has coaches that will make him better. It's rare to find a soph QB that can win at the peak level of college football, and Jake isn't like Billy Joe.
Still, I think the chances of you having any fucking idea where Browning will be a year from now is pretty close to zero.
So fuck off.
