For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
According to 24/7 Bainivulu is the highest rated OL Petersen has ever gotten. Higher than Adams, McGary, Roberts, and Wattenberg.
And how many OL do you start?
You need more than 1 elite high end guy per class ... I know that's hard for you and a few others around here to understand.
You said if he was your best online recruit you have problems. Do you even listen to yourself or are you tl;dr for yourself?
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
According to 24/7 Bainivulu is the highest rated OL Petersen has ever gotten. Higher than Adams, McGary, Roberts, and Wattenberg.
And how many OL do you start?
You need more than 1 elite high end guy per class ... I know that's hard for you and a few others around here to understand.
I wish we were taking more. I somewhat understand complaining about quantity. It's also been overblown.
We are losing two OL (Eldrenkamp, Brostek) before attrition. Bainivulu and Sarrell/the new plan B guy will replace. They were never taking more than 3. It's a small class. If you can't realize this is what UW coaches are doing than you are dumb.
What are you even arguing at this point? Does UW have a good OL? Are they improving? Should they be better next year? Is Strausser doing a good job?
The answers are yes, yes, yes, and yes.
As I noted in an earlier post, there doesn't seem to be anything else they could do to get Sarrell.
"Oh, fuck the on field product. Strausser didn't get Fozzy or some kid from California. If we want to be elite in 2019 we need better OL recruits."
Meanwhile our current team with an OL coached by Strausser is going to the fucking playoff.
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
We're competing at a national level right now with Sark retreads and young Pete recruits.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
According to 24/7 Bainivulu is the highest rated OL Petersen has ever gotten. Higher than Adams, McGary, Roberts, and Wattenberg.
And how many OL do you start?
You need more than 1 elite high end guy per class ... I know that's hard for you and a few others around here to understand.
You said if he was your best online recruit you have problems. Do you even listen to yourself or are you tl;dr for yourself?
My point being that if he's the only elite guy that you have in a class you're likely to fall short over time because you need numbers at the position, time for players to develop, provide room to cover injuries, etc.
Let's say you just get 1 elite guy every recruiting class, then you're likely always going to be in a position where you're either playing someone too early and/or playing a couple of average guys (hello Shane Brostek) that are going to get their shit pushed in against elite teams.
It's really not that hard to understand ...
The target really needs to be 2-3 elite guys per class ... not every elite player will pan out ... you want them to have time to develop before getting on the field. Considering that we've been under recruiting the last few years, you really need a class or two to make up for it to get the numbers where you need them going forward.
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
We're competing at a national level right now with Sark retreads and young Pete recruits.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
We're ranked at a national level ... we haven't proven that we're competing at a national level. All that we've proven is that we're an elite team in the PAC ... nothing more or less.
The only team that we've played on our schedule with the kind of elite talent on the DL that could give us problems was USC. Sure, you can blame Babushka for a shitty game called on offense and that's fair. That doesn't hide the fact that the OL was in trouble all night.
I've also supported Strausser in the past for his on-field results not only at UW but at Boise ... unlike Pease and the results he had here. But the reality is that OL recruiting is falling behind that of the rest of the team in terms of results.
Is that enough to want to make a change from Strausser? Absolutely not. But at the same time, not acknowledging that the recruiting here needs to get better to match the rest of the roster and that this needs to be emphasized in the 2018 class is also being foolish.
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
We're competing at a national level right now with Sark retreads and young Pete recruits.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
We're ranked at a national level ... we haven't proven that we're competing at a national level. All that we've proven is that we're an elite team in the PAC ... nothing more or less.
The only team that we've played on our schedule with the kind of elite talent on the DL that could give us problems was USC. Sure, you can blame Babushka for a shitty game called on offense and that's fair. That doesn't hide the fact that the OL was in trouble all night.
I've also supported Strausser in the past for his on-field results not only at UW but at Boise ... unlike Pease and the results he had here. But the reality is that OL recruiting is falling behind that of the rest of the team in terms of results.
Is that enough to want to make a change from Strausser? Absolutely not. But at the same time, not acknowledging that the recruiting here needs to get better to match the rest of the roster and that this needs to be emphasized in the 2018 class is also being foolish.
Look, I get it. Stars matter and I'm very well versed on the success correlation of recruiting class rankings and on field success.
The anomaly has been Petersen and the NFL talent he has produced at Boise, all things considered, we're winning.
Stop stirring up drama for your podcast with less than 9 listeners (me included) to prove you're hard.
The target really needs to be 2-3 elite guys per class ... not every elite player will pan out ... you want them to have time to develop before getting on the field. Considering that we've been under recruiting the last few years, you really need a class or two to make up for it to get the numbers where you need them going forward.
Petersen's elite is not the same as the Rivals100 though.
I don't want to get embroiled in a tequila-roaddawg donnybrook. (I do that enough on my own). Just 2 quick opinions:
- Strausser is a good O-line coach. He may not be the best recruiter, but any OL that wants to improve and have a shot at the NFL is a fucking moron for not coming to UW. This is where a recruit's father needs to step in and say: "Son, maybe Coach Strausser isn't as 'cool' as some other coach you're listening to, but he and Coach Pete will make you a much better player and person."
- usc's front four unfortunately showed that our O-line is good, but still struggles against elite talent that is playing well. If tequila is saying that our O-line would struggle against bama and 1 or 2 other truly elite teams and that is why we need recruits like Sarrell, then he is probably right. However, if Mathis were healthy, I can't think of a single O-line across the country that wouldn't struggle against our D-line (including bama). That is football. Truly elite D-lines will force any opposing offense to struggle and score points.
That is why I am an annoying broken record on the importance of a great D-line. It wins championships.
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
We're competing at a national level right now with Sark retreads and young Pete recruits.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
We're ranked at a national level ... we haven't proven that we're competing at a national level. All that we've proven is that we're an elite team in the PAC ... nothing more or less.
The only team that we've played on our schedule with the kind of elite talent on the DL that could give us problems was USC. Sure, you can blame Babushka for a shitty game called on offense and that's fair. That doesn't hide the fact that the OL was in trouble all night.
I've also supported Strausser in the past for his on-field results not only at UW but at Boise ... unlike Pease and the results he had here. But the reality is that OL recruiting is falling behind that of the rest of the team in terms of results.
Is that enough to want to make a change from Strausser? Absolutely not. But at the same time, not acknowledging that the recruiting here needs to get better to match the rest of the roster and that this needs to be emphasized in the 2018 class is also being foolish.
The bolded is pure fiction. As in, unadulterated bullshit.
Excluding the transition class, the OL recruits are basically of the same quality (judged by average star ranking) as the rest of the recruiting classes.
Look, our smallest, youngest and weakest offensive lineman who is a true freshman and was maybe a 3* is the guy that the tv announcers are praising week in and week out for his amazing play.
i think we'll be okay without mr. sarrell.
Yep. We survived no Garnett and Banner. But 2018 I hope the recruiting focuses on both lines. That's how you stay elite.
We didn't survive no Garnett or Banner at all. Weird logic.
The 2013-2015 teams would have been quite a bit better with those guys, especially Garnett.
Banner would have thrived under Petersen. No way would this staff let him weigh 380 like he did at USC.
We haven't got Banner this year and have a pretty damn good line. If we don't have Sarell next year we'll still have a better line than this year. Pretty straightfoward to me. Love to have him but people wetting their pants when it looks like he's headed elsewhere, WTF? Strauser seems pretty damn good at development. Don't think Shelton or Eldenkramp were very high rated but look where they are now. And Harris is the next low rated jewel.
I love Strausser and think it's beyond retarded to complain about him for any reason.
If Fozzy doesn't come, he doesn't come. Not much more anyone could have done than win the conference, show we can have a great OL, and have the head coach arrive in a helicopter to a high school game.
Assuming that Fozzy doesn't come here (LIPO) ... you do realize that when it comes to the 3 primary OL targets that we had this year in this class we will have gotten 1 of 3?
The one we got is a local kid ...
The local national recruit (top 5 player by any service) is going to Stanford ...
The out of state kid from the Bay Area who is coached by a UW legend has chosen USC ...
IF this program is to compete at a national level, as others have stated, it will be because we are able to compete first and foremost on the OL. The reality is that the top 2 targets we had in this class we'll likely miss on both. Bainivalu is a really good OL prospect and nothing to sneeze at ... but if he is your 3rd OL in the class you are dancing in the streets. If he's your top OL recruit in this class then you probably aren't building the kind of combination of depth/talent needed to compete with the Alabama's, Ohio State's, Michigan, and even USC's to the point where you walk onto the field knowing you are going to beat them.
What other positional groupings on the field can you say that about going forward given what is currently on the roster and where this class has recruited?
Still want to stand by the fact that it's beyond retarted to complain about Strausser for any reason?
We already are competing on a national level, so yes it is beyond retarded to complain about the OL coach of a really good OL from a team very likely to make the playoff. I've only posted that line of thought maybe 20-25 times.
Cart before the horse ...
We have proven that we can compete at the PAC level ... and BTW our OL got their shit pushed in in the game against elite DL talent that we lost this year.
We haven't proven shit on a national scale ...
You're FS enough to say that if we get our shit pushed in by Alabama or Ohio St or Clemson that those teams do it to everybody so it's not that big of a deal.
Since when do you have standards? You've defended some horrific performances for years but since you are obsessed with me, you would pretend like the OL had a bad year if we get beat by an elite team?
I'm not the one that has talked about how great the OL is this year ... but solid deflection by you ...
As for obsessed with you ... far from it. Anybody that likes to take screen shots and play Monday Morning QB years after the fact are the ones that are tied to being obsessive.
As for you, I just don't like you ... particularly how you are Johnny Come Lately now that this team is successful and you now want to get in the discussion that you left because you were convinced Pete would never be successful here ... if I was obsessed with you I would go back to all the stupid shit you said on the HFP and call you out on it ... anybody that wants to do that would be left with a shit ton of gold
For those that like to say 1 in 3 recruiting is good ... I'd also like to point out that where that came from was that IF there were 3 elite prospects out of SoCal, the idea being that USC would get 1, UCLA would get 1, and UW would get 1 ... and that the reason the UW prospect would be better was because he'd get better coaching and have more of a chip on his shoulder. 1 in 3 never applied to local kids.
As it pertains to OL recruiting and the 1 of 3 ...
Bainivalu SHOULD have been a slam dunk given location and that he was more of a PAC recruit than he was a national recruit.
Fozzy being an in-state kid SHOULD be a minor favorite to UW but going nationally isn't a complete shock historically ... the big miss here (assuming that he goes to Stanford) wasn't that he left but that there was at best a very small window where having any expectation that we could be in the lead was reasonable.
AVT wasn't a SoCal kid ... he was a NoCal kid. Because of that, the USC/UCLA pull SHOULD have been less ... add to it the fact that he goes to a school that not only have we recruited reasonably well as of late (see Camilo Eifler), but the HC of that school is probably on the short list of all-time Husky Legends in Nip ... this is a kid that we should have been able to win over with high end recruiting ... instead he chose USC BEFORE they had even turn things around ... that's a FAIL by us in recruiting.
He was being crooted by Michigan lol STFU
Also pretty sure Michigan was full on the OL and he may not have had a commitable offer ... Dennis or Pepsi can probably speak better to that
So we should go ahead and add Bainavalu to your list of husky o line recruits that don't actually count?
Go find any place where I said that ...
What I said was that you need a strong and deep class if competing at the national level ... if he is your 3rd or 4th OL that's a GREAT class ... if he is your best probably not deep enough ...
We're competing at a national level right now with Sark retreads and young Pete recruits.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
We're ranked at a national level ... we haven't proven that we're competing at a national level. All that we've proven is that we're an elite team in the PAC ... nothing more or less.
The only team that we've played on our schedule with the kind of elite talent on the DL that could give us problems was USC. Sure, you can blame Babushka for a shitty game called on offense and that's fair. That doesn't hide the fact that the OL was in trouble all night.
I've also supported Strausser in the past for his on-field results not only at UW but at Boise ... unlike Pease and the results he had here. But the reality is that OL recruiting is falling behind that of the rest of the team in terms of results.
Is that enough to want to make a change from Strausser? Absolutely not. But at the same time, not acknowledging that the recruiting here needs to get better to match the rest of the roster and that this needs to be emphasized in the 2018 class is also being foolish.
Making the case that our O-line recruits dont match our other positions in terms of quality and quantity is solely a matter of availability. There are 5 times as many quality db's, rb's, wr's to be recruited. High quality beef is rare. Therefore development trumps recruiting in the long haul. The big boy programs who have been relevent the last 5 years are going to get the best of the best and they make them a priority. If 2017 is similar to 2016 we will start seeing the elite beef wanting a piece of UW. But up to that point Strausser is the best O-line coach we could have had to get us over the hump.
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We are losing two OL (Eldrenkamp, Brostek) before attrition. Bainivulu and Sarrell/the new plan B guy will replace. They were never taking more than 3. It's a small class. If you can't realize this is what UW coaches are doing than you are dumb.
What are you even arguing at this point? Does UW have a good OL? Are they improving? Should they be better next year? Is Strausser doing a good job?
The answers are yes, yes, yes, and yes.
As I noted in an earlier post, there doesn't seem to be anything else they could do to get Sarrell.
"Oh, fuck the on field product. Strausser didn't get Fozzy or some kid from California. If we want to be elite in 2019 we need better OL recruits."
Meanwhile our current team with an OL coached by Strausser is going to the fucking playoff.
Everyone wants Fozzy, but everyone wants wins more. The lag effect is in full swing.
A. Minus SC we've dominated up front and babushka called a game that allowed their pass rush to tee-off.
B.Strausser doesn't get heat until his unit on the field sucks/underperforms, you know, what he's paid for.
Let's say you just get 1 elite guy every recruiting class, then you're likely always going to be in a position where you're either playing someone too early and/or playing a couple of average guys (hello Shane Brostek) that are going to get their shit pushed in against elite teams.
It's really not that hard to understand ...
The target really needs to be 2-3 elite guys per class ... not every elite player will pan out ... you want them to have time to develop before getting on the field. Considering that we've been under recruiting the last few years, you really need a class or two to make up for it to get the numbers where you need them going forward.
The only team that we've played on our schedule with the kind of elite talent on the DL that could give us problems was USC. Sure, you can blame Babushka for a shitty game called on offense and that's fair. That doesn't hide the fact that the OL was in trouble all night.
I've also supported Strausser in the past for his on-field results not only at UW but at Boise ... unlike Pease and the results he had here. But the reality is that OL recruiting is falling behind that of the rest of the team in terms of results.
Is that enough to want to make a change from Strausser? Absolutely not. But at the same time, not acknowledging that the recruiting here needs to get better to match the rest of the roster and that this needs to be emphasized in the 2018 class is also being foolish.
The anomaly has been Petersen and the NFL talent he has produced at Boise, all things considered, we're winning.
Stop stirring up drama for your podcast with less than 9 listeners (me included) to prove you're hard.
This is some Petty Kim Shit.
If he chooses UW, great, will bolster our line most likely. If not, we better develop other kids. We can't win every recruit we want.
Are you missing the whole point about this place?
- Strausser is a good O-line coach. He may not be the best recruiter, but any OL that wants to improve and have a shot at the NFL is a fucking moron for not coming to UW. This is where a recruit's father needs to step in and say: "Son, maybe Coach Strausser isn't as 'cool' as some other coach you're listening to, but he and Coach Pete will make you a much better player and person."
- usc's front four unfortunately showed that our O-line is good, but still struggles against elite talent that is playing well. If tequila is saying that our O-line would struggle against bama and 1 or 2 other truly elite teams and that is why we need recruits like Sarrell, then he is probably right. However, if Mathis were healthy, I can't think of a single O-line across the country that wouldn't struggle against our D-line (including bama). That is football. Truly elite D-lines will force any opposing offense to struggle and score points.
That is why I am an annoying broken record on the importance of a great D-line. It wins championships.
Excluding the transition class, the OL recruits are basically of the same quality (judged by average star ranking) as the rest of the recruiting classes.