I re-watched that game and watched the plays around the "injuries". Gardner was almost definitely fake. He missed a tackle, then felt his arm, then rolled around on the ground like he was in pain. Half minute later on the sideline waiting to go back in (which he did on the next play). Skov did get slightly hit in the leg by his own guy on the Keith Price scramble for a first down, but he was then nearly sprinting with no hindrance whatsoever. Then he gets the two minute check by trainers, limps off the field, then runs out two plays later with no hitch in his stride. As a bonus they had a player down in our backfield on the final reviewed play which would have kept us from snapping.
Overall it didn't really affect the game like say the holding call on 4th and inches in the first quarter, or a few others that likely actually cost us points. Their defense was looking gassed those last couple drives. It is a chickenshit way to play and probably should be addressed by the league somehow.
The holding call on 4th and inches in the first quarter was totally legitimate. Dexter Charles tackled his opponent who was in the hole ready to stop the play for a loss.
I'm not disputing the call, I'm saying the feigned injuries didn't have an impact on the game like some of the penalties (all but the Daniels "roughness" and hands to the face were legit), and the atrocious special teams gaffs.
I agree with dhdawg I think they were faking injuries.
However, as a head coach you never ever say that to the media. That tells me Sark doesn't plan on sticking around for very long since he's not afraid to piss a coach off in his own conference.
Disagree. IF he's planning on leaving he's heading SC.
He didn't say this because he plans on leaving the conference, he said it because he racks disciprine.
I re-watched that game and watched the plays around the "injuries". Gardner was almost definitely fake. He missed a tackle, then felt his arm, then rolled around on the ground like he was in pain. Half minute later on the sideline waiting to go back in (which he did on the next play). Skov did get slightly hit in the leg by his own guy on the Keith Price scramble for a first down, but he was then nearly sprinting with no hindrance whatsoever. Then he gets the two minute check by trainers, limps off the field, then runs out two plays later with no hitch in his stride. As a bonus they had a player down in our backfield on the final reviewed play which would have kept us from snapping.
Overall it didn't really affect the game like say the holding call on 4th and inches in the first quarter, or a few others that likely actually cost us points. Their defense was looking gassed those last couple drives. It is a chickenshit way to play and probably should be addressed by the league somehow.
The holding call on 4th and inches in the first quarter was totally legitimate. Dexter Charles tackled his opponent who was in the hole ready to stop the play for a loss.
I'm not disputing the call, I'm saying the feigned injuries didn't have an impact on the game like some of the penalties (all but the Daniels "roughness" and hands to the face were legit), and the atrocious special teams gaffs.
The hands to the face foul was there. The fucktards on ESPN heard #8, but the foul was on #80 (Hudson).
You're totally right about everything else, including the roughness call on Daniels. That was garbage.
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Short lipped and cliche takes discipline Pool Boy never developed.
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Short lipped and cliche takes discipline Pool Boy never developed.
I'm pretty sure he got the job because he likes to talk alot and is required to by pool boy.
both are idiots, sark is making excuses and shaw is dead wrong. Shane skov was on the ground for a good 3 minutes writhing in pain, the doctors looking at his knee like it was an ACL tear. He was in the next play.
I'm sure it was real. It would be like us having Shaq faking an injury... Why do that with your best player?
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Disagree.
You know who won't fake an injury against us next year? Stanford.
All this media shit blows over in a day, but now Shaw knows that the media will fixate on this next year.
Same thing happened with Oregon. When teams got caught faking injuries, and embarrassed by the press, they stopped doing it.
Furthermore, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT. Since its totally legal to take a dive to stop the hurry up.
Sark also knows that future opponents will think about faking injuries. So this is a preemptive shot across the bow.
Fuck there are some whiney cunts on here. We're bitching because our coach is calling out Shaw for being a pussy and telling his players to fake being hurt? Christ.
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Disagree.
You know who won't fake an injury against us next year? Stanford.
All this media shit blows over in a day, but now Shaw knows that the media will fixate on this next year.
Same thing happened with Oregon. When teams got caught faking injuries, and embarrassed by the press, they stopped doing it.
Furthermore, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT. Since its totally legal to take a dive to stop the hurry up.
Sark also knows that future opponents will think about faking injuries. So this is a preemptive shot across the bow.
Fuck there are some whiney cunts on here. We're bitching because our coach is calling out Shaw for being a pussy and telling his players to fake being hurt? Christ.
Yes Sark being a whinny cunt sure is looking good for our program right now.
Sark's program is already soft but now add whiny cunt to the list of problems. No you shut the fuck up and give some bull shit cliche answer.
Even with them faking injuries if you coached your special teams properly the Huskies fucking win the game. If ASJ makes that catch I bet the Huskies win the fucking game. Them faking injuries had nothing to do with it.
You also look dumb calling out a coach faking injuries when you have a coach on your staff who was very famous for doing that.
I think its possible that its just the players and an instinctive move. At the end of a game like that guys probably have minor nicks and dings that hurt more when they are tired. I find it hard to believe the Stanford coaches will tell the players to fake injuries late in the game if they are tired...though we know Tosh did it.
Chip never complained for four years about it. Sark needs to get the mindset of just win and STFU. By complaining like this, he thinks he's backing his team. That is true, however it hurts the team, because it builds in a excuse, and takes the focus away from what they did wrong (penalties, special teams, drops) and puts it on what Stanford did. How does this help them prepare for Oregon?
After the game Sark should have been short lipped and cliche.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
Disagree.
You know who won't fake an injury against us next year? Stanford.
All this media shit blows over in a day, but now Shaw knows that the media will fixate on this next year.
Same thing happened with Oregon. When teams got caught faking injuries, and embarrassed by the press, they stopped doing it.
Furthermore, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT. Since its totally legal to take a dive to stop the hurry up.
Sark also knows that future opponents will think about faking injuries. So this is a preemptive shot across the bow.
Fuck there are some whiney cunts on here. We're bitching because our coach is calling out Shaw for being a pussy and telling his players to fake being hurt? Christ.
I disagree with your disagreement.
Touché.
But here's the thing, our special team's fuckups cost us the game AND Shaw is a bitch who should be called out. Abundance.
Sark made his point and then shutup about it. I'm fine with it.
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I'm not disputing the call, I'm saying the feigned injuries didn't have an impact on the game like some of the penalties (all but the Daniels "roughness" and hands to the face were legit), and the atrocious special teams gaffs.
He didn't say this because he plans on leaving the conference, he said it because he racks disciprine.
You're totally right about everything else, including the roughness call on Daniels. That was garbage.
Interviewer: What did you think of the overturn call?
Sark: I'm always going to think it's a catch. I can only control my team though and that's what I tell my kids. We battled hard and just have to bounce back next week.
Interviewer: Hey coach what did you think about Stanford possibly faking injuries?
Sark: I can only speak for my team. We battled hard and will regroup for a tough game next week.
Those two answers is all he had to say. You don't want to be the quotable coach as that coach is often a loser. You want to be a Kelly, Belicheck, Saban type who gives boring answers.
youtube.com/watch?v=-HeH-cNIcDs
I'm not a lip reader but I think he says, "I'll bet you a thousand bucks he comes back on the next play." Sure enough, he did.
I'm sure it was real. It would be like us having Shaq faking an injury... Why do that with your best player?
They have been hurt, but not 2 to 3 minutes to give their defensive a breather hurt.
You know who won't fake an injury against us next year? Stanford.
All this media shit blows over in a day, but now Shaw knows that the media will fixate on this next year.
Same thing happened with Oregon. When teams got caught faking injuries, and embarrassed by the press, they stopped doing it.
Furthermore, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT. Since its totally legal to take a dive to stop the hurry up.
Sark also knows that future opponents will think about faking injuries. So this is a preemptive shot across the bow.
Fuck there are some whiney cunts on here. We're bitching because our coach is calling out Shaw for being a pussy and telling his players to fake being hurt? Christ.
Sark's program is already soft but now add whiny cunt to the list of problems. No you shut the fuck up and give some bull shit cliche answer.
Even with them faking injuries if you coached your special teams properly the Huskies fucking win the game. If ASJ makes that catch I bet the Huskies win the fucking game. Them faking injuries had nothing to do with it.
You also look dumb calling out a coach faking injuries when you have a coach on your staff who was very famous for doing that.
I disagree with your disagreement.
But here's the thing, our special team's fuckups cost us the game AND Shaw is a bitch who should be called out. Abundance.
Sark made his point and then shutup about it. I'm fine with it.
They blow when it comes to replaying key moments.