Julius Irvin, 4* 2018 DB, Anaheim (Servite), CA (COMMITTED)
Comments
-
I'd like to know about these USC advantages. Are we talking escorts and blow? Are we talking about shady ones like coffee cups full of cash? Or potentially real non-shady ones like alumni connections providing career opportunities, etc.?
-
All of the above. Clearest case of abundance, ever.
USC is what it is. When they get the right coach, we are truly fucked. -
Just the home town. Like our fence around the state. USC is ingrained in the community. It's a dreamRealRhino said:I'd like to know about these USC advantages. Are we talking escorts and blow? Are we talking about shady ones like coffee cups full of cash? Or potentially real non-shady ones like alumni connections providing career opportunities, etc.?
-
Pussy, money, weed!MisterEm said:
You're missing the boat.RealRhino said:Okay, that got longwinded. The recruiting classes that made up those five NFL drafts were essentially 2009-2014. OF the CB's and S's recruited by each school for those years:
USC:
5-stars: 3
4-stars: 11
Top 100 overall: 5
Note: Adoree Jackson was ranked the #7 player in the country, went 1st round. T.J. McDonald was ranked the #32 player in the country, went 3rd round. So basically the only guys who went in day one or two of the draft for USC were guys considered 1st-round talents before they even showed up on campus.
UW:
5-stars: Zero
4-stars: 5
Top 100 overall: 1 (Budda Baker)
1st-rounders Desmond Trufant and Marcus Peters were ranked #877 and #489 overall. 2nd-rounders Kevin King and Sidney Jones were ranked #571 overall and NA. Sidney Jones was so little thought of he was ranked the 94th-best CB in the country.
Seriously, why would somebody trust their career development to USC?
My brother in law was a Hackett recruit that played under Pete, and had a cup of Joe in the league.
There are USC advantages that the UW will never be able to touch. This extends far beyond football.
That is WHY.
HTH -
Kevin King signed a contract worth $7.1 million. Budda Baker, $6.8 million. Sidney Jones, even after his injury, $6.1 million.
They can buy all the pussy & weed they want with that money. Somehow, "hanging out in LA" as an incentive pales in comparison.... -
If I’m reading his cryptic poast correctly I think he’s saying that his Bro-in-law went to Starbucks after he got drafted. BFD if you ask me.RealRhino said:I'd like to know about these USC advantages. Are we talking escorts and blow? Are we talking about shady ones like coffee cups full of cash? Or potentially real non-shady ones like alumni connections providing career opportunities, etc.?
-
Not really ... they can only take so many kids per year ... now that we've got Petersen for the long haul and results to match ... eventually we'll get close to them in recruiting (not surpass) but we'll outcoach and outdevelop the kids and the NFL will come calling more often.MisterEm said:All of the above. Clearest case of abundance, ever.
USC is what it is. When they get the right coach, we are truly fucked.
USC will always get the lion's share of talent but there's lots leftover ... my question is whether Petersen needs to dip into the gangster pool like Don James did to get over the top or whether he can still fulfill the Boise St-plus-plus in-the-pac-12, OKG model.
(that hurt to type out)
-
Why do you hate Marcus Peters?RealRhino said:Kevin King signed a contract worth $7.1 million. Budda Baker, $6.8 million. Sidney Jones, even after his injury, $6.1 million.
They can buy all the pussy & weed they want with that money. Somehow, "hanging out in LA" as an incentive pales in comparison.... -
Confucius say woe onto Notre Dame's dilapidation. Donors make monuments more splendid than the actual dormitories and facilities, and counted the old men of their descent dearer than the names of their current players. Tired, broken coaches sit in aged halls musing on recruiting or in high-called towers asking questions of the priests.AF9705 said:Been out of it for a while, but can update the following...
ND is out of it. He was set to sign early with them but now they are fourth & moved on.
UW jumped back into it. The family wants him on West Coast, & they are still fighting with USC.
Bama is interesting because they want him & he is interested, but I just don’t see him leaving the West Coast without some typical Bama shannanigans.
I still think if USC wants him & sweet talks him he ends up there. Then a tie between UW & Bama. -
Not everyone wants to live in Seattle for the rest of their lives. I’m from up there and have been down in LA since 2009..it’s a great place to live dispite what the sentiment in the Northwest is about the region. As a few people have mentioned there are plenty of advantages as a USC alumni in Southern California. Just like for UW grads in Seattle. There’s no denying the track record of the past 5 years of UW’s w/ DBs in the NFL however USC offers a lot as well. Incredibly strong network in this region. I’m sure that’s why his father is pushing for USC; the opportunities post career are immense.
-
Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
-
About as many as UCLA, And every other D1 university in LApat_hm said:Not everyone wants to live in Seattle for the rest of their lives. I’m from up there and have been down in LA since 2009..it’s a great place to live dispite what the sentiment in the Northwest is about the region. As a few people have mentioned there are plenty of advantages as a USC alumni in Southern California. Just like for UW grads in Seattle. There’s no denying the track record of the past 5 years of UW’s w/ DBs in the NFL however USC offers a lot as well. Incredibly strong network in this region. I’m sure that’s why his father is pushing for USC; the opportunities post career are immense.
-
Sounds like Saban will be making a west coast swing next week to pick up Irvin, Taylor-Stewart, and Griffin and take them out east for the next 4 years.
It's good to be king. -
Lol, what?pat_hm said:Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
Chicago is two hours from Notre Dame.
And there are a lot of people that would disagree with you that there is no reason to attend ND...
But Irvin isn’t going to ND so it doesn’t matter.
He just visited Bama so if they open the wallet he could end up there but he still looks like he is not leaving the west coast.
He wants USC. If they dig the other two kids at his position then he is all UW’s. -
With Saban in home, Dr. J is headed to Tuscaloosa.
-
In terms of concentration of graduates you're going to find more ND alumni in Chicago than Seattle or LA. I have a number of friends who attended ND and found jobs in Chicago due to alumni networks. It would be same with Ohio State, Wisconsin etc. Not sure where the lol is coming from...I'm not saying a ND degree is worthless on the west coast; I just think it carries more clout in the midwest. I'm aware that South Bend is two hours from Chicago; with that said no one says there, Chicago is closest major metropolis hence the migration to Chicago. That is the difference between UW/USC, a majority of said graduates end up settling in Seattle/LA.AF9705 said:
Lol, what?pat_hm said:Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
Chicago is two hours from Notre Dame.
And there are a lot of people that would disagree with you that there is no reason to attend ND...
But Irvin isn’t going to ND so it doesn’t matter.
He just visited Bama so if they open the wallet he could end up there but he still looks like he is not leaving the west coast.
He wants USC. If they dig the other two kids at his position then he is all UW’s.
This is all a mute point now that it sounds like it's a battle between USC/UW/Bama. -
Fucking Pac-12 pussy programs with your bullshit tv network and bullshit neutral site championship game. Special fuck you to Mark Helfrich for not recruiting Tua.bananasnblondes said:Sounds like Saban will be making a west coast swing next week to pick up Irvin, Taylor-Stewart, and Griffin and take them out east for the next 4 years.
It's good to be king.
We should get USC's sloppy seconds not waiting until after USC, Bama, FSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, etc run train on the entire West coast. -
I'd say UCLA and USC are comparable. However the LMU's, Cal State Schools (Northridge, Riverside etc), LBSU's, Pepperdines etc don't hold as much clout as USC/UCLA. It's all networking. There's a reason that the Mater Dei's, Campbell Hall's, of the world funnel kids to USC..it's the same reason kids go there for film/music. They've got a ton of money and strong alumni networks.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
About as many as UCLA, And every other D1 university in LApat_hm said:Not everyone wants to live in Seattle for the rest of their lives. I’m from up there and have been down in LA since 2009..it’s a great place to live dispite what the sentiment in the Northwest is about the region. As a few people have mentioned there are plenty of advantages as a USC alumni in Southern California. Just like for UW grads in Seattle. There’s no denying the track record of the past 5 years of UW’s w/ DBs in the NFL however USC offers a lot as well. Incredibly strong network in this region. I’m sure that’s why his father is pushing for USC; the opportunities post career are immense.
Let's just say I can see why kids buy into USC..they offer a lot. -
nah USC owns LA, their alumni take care of each other. same shit with UW and seattle. UCLA is the most emotionless, apathetic alumni group you'll ever findNeGgaPlEaSe said:
About as many as UCLA, And every other D1 university in LApat_hm said:Not everyone wants to live in Seattle for the rest of their lives. I’m from up there and have been down in LA since 2009..it’s a great place to live dispite what the sentiment in the Northwest is about the region. As a few people have mentioned there are plenty of advantages as a USC alumni in Southern California. Just like for UW grads in Seattle. There’s no denying the track record of the past 5 years of UW’s w/ DBs in the NFL however USC offers a lot as well. Incredibly strong network in this region. I’m sure that’s why his father is pushing for USC; the opportunities post career are immense.
-
Agree. The business mba network isn't bad though. Outside of that? Pretty much non-existent.BaldwinIV said:
nah USC owns LA, their alumni take care of each other. same shit with UW and seattle. UCLA is the most emotionless, apathetic alumni group you'll ever findNeGgaPlEaSe said:
About as many as UCLA, And every other D1 university in LApat_hm said:Not everyone wants to live in Seattle for the rest of their lives. I’m from up there and have been down in LA since 2009..it’s a great place to live dispite what the sentiment in the Northwest is about the region. As a few people have mentioned there are plenty of advantages as a USC alumni in Southern California. Just like for UW grads in Seattle. There’s no denying the track record of the past 5 years of UW’s w/ DBs in the NFL however USC offers a lot as well. Incredibly strong network in this region. I’m sure that’s why his father is pushing for USC; the opportunities post career are immense.
USC is much more like UW with the cult like following. -
It’s because USC feeds into the Hollywood ecosystem and all the UCLA brainiacs go up to Silicon Valley.
-
ND only had around 120,000 living alumni, which is about 5 years worth at large universities. So you have to look at percentages with ND not numbers.pat_hm said:
In terms of concentration of graduates you're going to find more ND alumni in Chicago than Seattle or LA. I have a number of friends who attended ND and found jobs in Chicago due to alumni networks. It would be same with Ohio State, Wisconsin etc. Not sure where the lol is coming from...I'm not saying a ND degree is worthless on the west coast; I just think it carries more clout in the midwest. I'm aware that South Bend is two hours from Chicago; with that said no one says there, Chicago is closest major metropolis hence the migration to Chicago. That is the difference between UW/USC, a majority of said graduates end up settling in Seattle/LA.AF9705 said:
Lol, what?pat_hm said:Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
Chicago is two hours from Notre Dame.
And there are a lot of people that would disagree with you that there is no reason to attend ND...
But Irvin isn’t going to ND so it doesn’t matter.
He just visited Bama so if they open the wallet he could end up there but he still looks like he is not leaving the west coast.
He wants USC. If they dig the other two kids at his position then he is all UW’s.
This is all a mute point now that it sounds like it's a battle between USC/UW/Bama.
Obviously a lot of midwestern kids end up at ND so the Midwest will have the largest percentage. But according to the ND alumni association it’s not as many as you would think.
About 35% live in the Midwest.
About 25% live in the Northeast.
About 15% live on west coast.
About 10% in the southeast.
About 5% southwest.
About 5% overseas.
About 5% other/unknown.
But we are talking about football players, not normal student, in which most end up back working where they are from if not in NFL.
A ND degree opens doors everywhere, not just Chicago or Midwest.
Either way it doesn’t matter because Irvin is not going to ND.
What I’m hearing is USC is going the “hey, what’s up? What you doing this weekend? Keep Saturday open, I might be available to go out,” route.
UW is going the “hey baby, I need you now, I love you, please come over,” route.
It’s going to be interesting to see how it ends up. -
I love begging.AF9705 said:
ND only had around 120,000 living alumni, which is about 5 years worth at large universities. So you have to look at percentages with ND not numbers.pat_hm said:
In terms of concentration of graduates you're going to find more ND alumni in Chicago than Seattle or LA. I have a number of friends who attended ND and found jobs in Chicago due to alumni networks. It would be same with Ohio State, Wisconsin etc. Not sure where the lol is coming from...I'm not saying a ND degree is worthless on the west coast; I just think it carries more clout in the midwest. I'm aware that South Bend is two hours from Chicago; with that said no one says there, Chicago is closest major metropolis hence the migration to Chicago. That is the difference between UW/USC, a majority of said graduates end up settling in Seattle/LA.AF9705 said:
Lol, what?pat_hm said:Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
Chicago is two hours from Notre Dame.
And there are a lot of people that would disagree with you that there is no reason to attend ND...
But Irvin isn’t going to ND so it doesn’t matter.
He just visited Bama so if they open the wallet he could end up there but he still looks like he is not leaving the west coast.
He wants USC. If they dig the other two kids at his position then he is all UW’s.
This is all a mute point now that it sounds like it's a battle between USC/UW/Bama.
Obviously a lot of midwestern kids end up at ND so the Midwest will have the largest percentage. But according to the ND alumni association it’s not as many as you would think.
About 35% live in the Midwest.
About 25% live in the Northeast.
About 15% live on west coast.
About 10% in the southeast.
About 5% southwest.
About 5% overseas.
About 5% other/unknown.
But we are talking about football players, not normal student, in which most end up back working where they are from if not in NFL.
A ND degree opens doors everywhere, not just Chicago or Midwest.
Either way it doesn’t matter because Irvin is not going to ND.
What I’m hearing is USC is going the “hey, what’s up? What you doing this weekend? Keep Saturday open, I might be available to go out,” route.
UW is going the “hey baby, I need you now, I love you, please come over,” route.
It’s going to be interesting to see how it ends up. -
Your stats basically confirm that the major city/metro area in the US with the largest concentration of ND alums is Chicago.AF9705 said:
ND only had around 120,000 living alumni, which is about 5 years worth at large universities. So you have to look at percentages with ND not numbers.pat_hm said:
In terms of concentration of graduates you're going to find more ND alumni in Chicago than Seattle or LA. I have a number of friends who attended ND and found jobs in Chicago due to alumni networks. It would be same with Ohio State, Wisconsin etc. Not sure where the lol is coming from...I'm not saying a ND degree is worthless on the west coast; I just think it carries more clout in the midwest. I'm aware that South Bend is two hours from Chicago; with that said no one says there, Chicago is closest major metropolis hence the migration to Chicago. That is the difference between UW/USC, a majority of said graduates end up settling in Seattle/LA.AF9705 said:
Lol, what?pat_hm said:Unless you want to live in Chicago there is zero reason for Irvin to attend ND.
Chicago is two hours from Notre Dame.
And there are a lot of people that would disagree with you that there is no reason to attend ND...
But Irvin isn’t going to ND so it doesn’t matter.
He just visited Bama so if they open the wallet he could end up there but he still looks like he is not leaving the west coast.
He wants USC. If they dig the other two kids at his position then he is all UW’s.
This is all a mute point now that it sounds like it's a battle between USC/UW/Bama.
Obviously a lot of midwestern kids end up at ND so the Midwest will have the largest percentage. But according to the ND alumni association it’s not as many as you would think.
About 35% live in the Midwest.
About 25% live in the Northeast.
About 15% live on west coast.
About 10% in the southeast.
About 5% southwest.
About 5% overseas.
About 5% other/unknown.
But we are talking about football players, not normal student, in which most end up back working where they are from if not in NFL.
A ND degree opens doors everywhere, not just Chicago or Midwest.
Either way it doesn’t matter because Irvin is not going to ND.
What I’m hearing is USC is going the “hey, what’s up? What you doing this weekend? Keep Saturday open, I might be available to go out,” route.
UW is going the “hey baby, I need you now, I love you, please come over,” route.
It’s going to be interesting to see how it ends up. -
Always special to finish 3rd for a kid with 2 options as of last week.
-
I read this as Satan will be making a west coast swing.bananasnblondes said:Sounds like Saban will be making a west coast swing next week to pick up Irvin, Taylor-Stewart, and Griffin and take them out east for the next 4 years.
It's good to be king. -
STAYConfucius said:
Confucius say woe onto Notre Dame's dilapidation. Donors make monuments more splendid than the actual dormitories and facilities, and counted the old men of their descent dearer than the names of their current players. Tired, broken coaches sit in aged halls musing on recruiting or in high-called towers asking questions of the priests.AF9705 said:Been out of it for a while, but can update the following...
ND is out of it. He was set to sign early with them but now they are fourth & moved on.
UW jumped back into it. The family wants him on West Coast, & they are still fighting with USC.
Bama is interesting because they want him & he is interested, but I just don’t see him leaving the West Coast without some typical Bama shannanigans.
I still think if USC wants him & sweet talks him he ends up there. Then a tie between UW & Bama.
-
Only thing missing was Haiku format.Confucius said:
Confucius say woe onto Notre Dame's dilapidation. Donors make monuments more splendid than the actual dormitories and facilities, and counted the old men of their descent dearer than the names of their current players. Tired, broken coaches sit in aged halls musing on recruiting or in high-called towers asking questions of the priests.AF9705 said:Been out of it for a while, but can update the following...
ND is out of it. He was set to sign early with them but now they are fourth & moved on.
UW jumped back into it. The family wants him on West Coast, & they are still fighting with USC.
Bama is interesting because they want him & he is interested, but I just don’t see him leaving the West Coast without some typical Bama shannanigans.
I still think if USC wants him & sweet talks him he ends up there. Then a tie between UW & Bama. -
This thread has gone horribly awry
-
If by chance and all likelihood he doesn't pick UW, I hope he loses the receipt for the hat on the table.
