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Mad Son's Ramblings: Year Three is Prove-It Time for Petersen

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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    edited September 2016
    as you say

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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited September 2016
    Coach effect does not equal game management.

    You'd have to be regularly punting on third down to cost your team three wins in one season via game management.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Good write up. The "Hype" section was particularly salient. I'm not 100% sure what salient means so I hope I used it right.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    FremontTroll said:

    Coach effect does not equal game management.

    You'd have to be regularly punting on third down to cost your team three wins in one season via game management.

    Game management is wrapped up in there. It is a much larger term that encompasses nearly every aspect of the team, as I tried to acknowledge. I maybe wasn't as explicit in mentioning the offense there as I had intended to be. Basically those are the areas where we are under-performing and it is costing us games.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    BearsWiin said:

    Schools like Maryland, Arizona, Cal, and Rutgers, etc should be happy with 7-8 wins when they can get them
    Fuck you

    You need a new team my friend. Might I interest you in the Tennessee Volunteers?
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Ok, I read it.

    Too much is being analyzed about the offense in a game that was over after the first 15 minutes.

    Sample sizes of one suck...ask Ohio State 2 years ago.

    It looks a lot like last year which is what worries me. Sure, we did see the mentioned upside in Browning's deep ball, we are early in the season, and weird things can happen week 1 with all the concealing the playbook, etc aside, but I just didn't see anything to indicate we've fundamentally changed. I hope as the season goes on this will just be one anomalous data point. I know some people give the running game a pass, citing the Rutgers DL as being stout and them selling out to stop the run. That would be a logical game plan based on last year for them and in those cases I'd like to see us air it out more. I just didn't see anything indicating we can impose our will on opposing defenses though which is my concern there.

    Fundamentally we have been on a great upward trajectory, but it still remains to be seen if the same problems that haven't been fixed are being addressed. This game is only one data point (or really, one limited dataset) but anything that has been neglected thus far in Petersen's tenure will have to be shown to be different. Year three is time to show it. Benefit of the doubt is over.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Gladstone said:

    Also take slight issue with your point about the hype being negative. The hype can only be a good thing IMO, light shines ever brighter if we* fall short. Questions will be asked etc.

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    I like that hype is important to good recruits, and builds up an image that can help perpetuate good things. While getting good recruits is always good, perpetuating bad things isn't. It is too early to say if Petersen is good or bad but we will know at the end of this year. The hype can be a double edged sword in my eyes.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Gladstone said:

    Also take slight issue with your point about the hype being negative. The hype can only be a good thing IMO, light shines ever brighter if we* fall short. Questions will be asked etc.

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    This is beyond stupid. The right answer is the hype is meaningless. The coaches and players have done nothing to ask for the hype, nor have they done anything to deserve it.

    "But the hype can be a good thing, 'cause if they underperform that (unearned) hype, questions will be asked." Give me a fucking break.
    God forbid we ever have standards.

    I don't know why they even bother to keep score.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    FremontTroll said:

    Coach effect does not equal game management.

    You'd have to be regularly punting on third down to cost your team three wins in one season via game management.

    There is a correlation though.

    See Peterman's well-documented game management failures for details.
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