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Elon Musk is a fraud...

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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Man...the three amigo stupid is strong in this thread...

    a) Its stupid to prop up industries that cannot sustain themselves. We've spend hundreds of billions with basically no measurable impact on "renewable" energy sources. Think about that for a second. I'd hope anyone with a Laureate degree or a Trump U degree would even realize that a pretty fucking large failure, even by Federal Govt standards.

    b) but IF you do want to prop up an industry pretty much anyone with an IQ over the speed limit would know you do it on the demand side and not the supply side (i.e. you say we'll give money back to anyone that buys an electric car and let the market work on the supply side, not we'll pick one guy and prop him up with billions in hopes that he makes it work, and if he bankrupts his company 'cause he wants to bail his cousin out on his own failed company than who am I to judge.)

    And HondoFS...mad props to you. You still don't get it yet you keep posting and posting. Takes courage.

    The business can't sustain itself so much that it paid the debt off NINE years early.

    And if you recall, we did the supply side as well, it was called cash for clunkers. Not to mention you got tax credits for buying an electric vehicle.

    Any more rants?
    Like I said...mad props.

    Simple question...how much total profit has Tesla made?
    I'm curious to hear your analysis of this.

    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/financials?query=income-statement
    Yup...lost billions. I'm sure you had a point?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Man...the three amigo stupid is strong in this thread...

    a) Its stupid to prop up industries that cannot sustain themselves. We've spend hundreds of billions with basically no measurable impact on "renewable" energy sources. Think about that for a second. I'd hope anyone with a Laureate degree or a Trump U degree would even realize that a pretty fucking large failure, even by Federal Govt standards.

    b) but IF you do want to prop up an industry pretty much anyone with an IQ over the speed limit would know you do it on the demand side and not the supply side (i.e. you say we'll give money back to anyone that buys an electric car and let the market work on the supply side, not we'll pick one guy and prop him up with billions in hopes that he makes it work, and if he bankrupts his company 'cause he wants to bail his cousin out on his own failed company than who am I to judge.)

    And HondoFS...mad props to you. You still don't get it yet you keep posting and posting. Takes courage.

    The business can't sustain itself so much that it paid the debt off NINE years early.

    And if you recall, we did the supply side as well, it was called cash for clunkers. Not to mention you got tax credits for buying an electric vehicle.

    Any more rants?
    Like I said...mad props.

    Simple question...how much total profit has Tesla made?
    I'm curious to hear your analysis of this.

    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/financials?query=income-statement
    Yup...lost billions. I'm sure you had a point?
    Do you know what research and development is and how it works?

    Honestly it's embarrassing you even commented like that. But not surprising.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Man...the three amigo stupid is strong in this thread...

    a) Its stupid to prop up industries that cannot sustain themselves. We've spend hundreds of billions with basically no measurable impact on "renewable" energy sources. Think about that for a second. I'd hope anyone with a Laureate degree or a Trump U degree would even realize that a pretty fucking large failure, even by Federal Govt standards.

    b) but IF you do want to prop up an industry pretty much anyone with an IQ over the speed limit would know you do it on the demand side and not the supply side (i.e. you say we'll give money back to anyone that buys an electric car and let the market work on the supply side, not we'll pick one guy and prop him up with billions in hopes that he makes it work, and if he bankrupts his company 'cause he wants to bail his cousin out on his own failed company than who am I to judge.)

    And HondoFS...mad props to you. You still don't get it yet you keep posting and posting. Takes courage.

    The business can't sustain itself so much that it paid the debt off NINE years early.

    And if you recall, we did the supply side as well, it was called cash for clunkers. Not to mention you got tax credits for buying an electric vehicle.

    Any more rants?
    Like I said...mad props.

    Simple question...how much total profit has Tesla made?
    I'm curious to hear your analysis of this.

    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/financials?query=income-statement
    Yup...lost billions. I'm sure you had a point?
    Do you know what research and development is and how it works?

    Honestly it's embarrassing you even commented like that. But not surprising.
    Let me guess...you figured out the difference between gross and net profit and figured out you needed to change your tune (again).

    Only problem is, now you seem to be arguing pouring money you aren't making into R&D fighting the laws of thermodynamics is somehow a low-risk proposition deserving of a 3% interest rate (with no equity stake). How did spending billions in R&D like that work out for the likes of Fisker Automotive, Solyndra (and dozens more solar companies), or heck even companies like Theranos, etc.? Is your new argument that all R&D spending is a guaranteed return and has no risk?

    Like I said...mad props to you. You're an effin moron, but you've at least got the balls to put it out to display for the world to see...
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If the core raw material needed for manufacture of technology is in such short supply as to not be scalable, how does this effect future projected revenue streams and profitability?
  • WeAreAFatLesboSchool
    WeAreAFatLesboSchool Guest Posts: 736
    edited September 2016
    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Elon Musk creates cool shit.

    It's too bad he has to steal from people to do so.
    You mean like all of the military contractors creating weapons that the Military doesn't want? Are those military contractors every paying us back?
    Changing the subject already?

    I expect nothing less from a mental midget.
    The subject is stealing from taxpayers.

    That is what the military contractors and their shills in congress are doing.

    Where is your outrage?

    I guess I shouldn't expect any from a hypocrite.
    Logical fallacy much?

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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Every tug tavern thread:
    Hondo/Ozone spreading 80% garbage while making a decent point every once in a while.
    Race Bannon chiming in calling people dumb while offering no substance of his own
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    doogie said:

    Shouldn't efficiency drive investment decisions instead of political contributions to gain interest rates/terms favorable to the political donor?

    yes. and no one loves crony capitalism more than the beloved "small government" conservative republicans
  • dhdawg said:

    doogie said:

    Shouldn't efficiency drive investment decisions instead of political contributions to gain interest rates/terms favorable to the political donor?

    yes. and no one loves crony capitalism more than the beloved "small government" conservative republicans
    And progressives....
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    doogie said:

    Shouldn't efficiency drive investment decisions instead of political contributions to gain interest rates/terms favorable to the political donor?

    yes. and no one loves crony capitalism more than the beloved "small government" conservative republicans
    And progressives....
    not saying they don't. But you can't make threads bitching about how Hillary is going to bail someone out when republicans were first in line to support the banker bailouts in 2007 and are as ozone pointed out, always doing their best to line the pockets of the defense contractors spending money for military shit that we don't fucking need