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The Solicialist Utopia of Venezuela has Issues...

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  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    doogie said:

    If they aren't selling cars, maybe they're too expensive and they should lower the price of the car or raise wages enough so the cars are more affordable

    This is solid work.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,252 Standard Supporter

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    It's a shame that the Republicans nominated a big government guy.
    Better than voting for Hillary like you.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,252 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,489 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    You must be very poor.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    Can you read? I said, how is the government so intrusive you can't live your life as you want. To which, nothing you discussed affects you and half the shit wouldn't change with a limited government.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
    Higher taxes
    Single payer healthcare
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    How do you fuck up a country rich in oil?

    Rhetorical

    How do you not. #resourcecurse #polisci101
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
    Higher taxes
    Single payer healthcare
    Ok. How is that coercive control? Unless your definition is different than mine, I don't see Bernie able to get a boner, let alone rule with an iron fist.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,489 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
    Higher taxes
    Single payer healthcare
    Ok. How is that coercive control? Unless your definition is different than mine, I don't see Bernie able to get a boner, let alone rule with an iron fist.
    Are you as a child, who desires the firm paternal authority guiding you and making decisions for you own good? Or do you identify with the narcissistic ruling class, making those decisions for the good of the enfeebled masses?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,252 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
    Taking from the productive to support the lazy and illegal to the tune of 90% of your wagges seems intrusive to me. If it's not to you send me 40%.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    His highest Tax bracket was low 50's and almost everyone's taxes would not have gone up at all actually
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,019 Founders Club
    Nearly all taxation is morally wrong. HTH.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,252 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    All infringe upon my freedoms. Violations of the constitution by the government against its citizens is very serious. Why does it not surprise me that it doesn't matter to you. The government is supposed to fear the people not the opposite.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    All infringe upon my freedoms. Violations of the constitution by the government against its citizens is very serious. Why does it not surprise me that it doesn't matter to you. The government is supposed to fear the people not the opposite.

    Looks like you are arguing with yourself.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,252 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    His highest Tax bracket was low 50's and almost everyone's taxes would not have gone up at all actually

    Quick name a socialist regime in power that was honest? Can't run Bernies plan on 50%. As I've said to others if you want to give away money I'll willingly accept it.

    Then donate it to fight stupidity.
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