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The Solicialist Utopia of Venezuela has Issues...

HoustonHusky
HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
Heard this earlier today but just read this on ZH. A total of 193 total cars, buses, and trucks were sold in July...in the entire country. A 99% drop from their peak.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-25/chart-day-which-socialist-utopia-has-seen-car-sales-drop-99

You add the craziness of people storming the zoo to find food:
http://fusion.net/story/330834/hungry-venezuelans-break-into-zoo-and-butcher-animal-for-meat/

A general mess:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/31/news/economy/venezuela-shortage/

People can only find 2 out of every 10 times they are looking for at the store:
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2016/06/03/venezuela-country-where-buying-food-became-adventure/

Recently Maduro said he will fix it by bringing in the Spanish socialist Jesus...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-nicolas-maduro-looks-to-a-marxist-spaniard-for-an-economic-miracle-1470678805

McDonalds won't even sell Big Macs there because they can't find bread suppliers...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-21/mcdonald-s-venezuela-stops-selling-big-mac-on-bread-shortage

And just to bring it back to the current topics on hand, yes...one of Hillary's "key" (really dumb) advisors named Joseph Stiglitz was a really big fan of Venezuela just a few short years ago...


Seriously though...its crazy how there is a large, close country that is turning into a completely failed state with an estimated 700% inflation rate and it isn't getting talked about more in the news. And its only going to get worse.
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Comments

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all chintegrity and honesty & chindependence & shit.

  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Fremont???? TRUE?!?!?!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleJ said:

    Fremont???? TRUE?!?!?!

    FREE PUB!!1!

    huh?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    How do you fuck up a country rich in oil?

    Rhetorical

    Axe Bush
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,673 Standard Supporter
    It's never worked and never will. Stupid idealists just keep saying the right people haven't tried it yet, meaning us.

    I wish they'd get around to this cowboys and socialist shit i'm not getting any younger!
  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    It seems to be working okay in China. Maybe it works better in countries that weren't brutalized as much by the Catholic church and subverted by our CIA?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    You are a giant pussy is you think Venezuela has anything to do with America.

    And zero hedge is full of shit.

    HTH
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Government can't run shit well. No surprise.

    On the flip side, the fastest growing city in India has no functional government.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/gurgaon/Fastest-growing-city-slowest-moving-too/articleshow/49265874.cms

    http://ideas.ted.com/skyscrapers-but-no-sewage-system-meet-a-city-run-by-private-industry/

    And yeah, I get it...they have no sewage! There's traffic problems! Sure, every city has problems...especially in India. And honestly, they do get the sewage out via transportation, and could form a sewage system once it's profitably.

    But how can you argue with the fact that so many people in India are eager to move there? It's obviously less of a shithole than all the cities that have a functional government in that country.

    It's the same shit with Somalia...Somalia is a shithole, sure...but it's become LESS of a shithole since the government was all but dismantled. That's what people fail to look at...
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    How do you fuck up a country rich in oil?

    Rhetorical

    Ask Mexico...

























































    ...or Canada....
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    How's democracy working out in Iraq?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Government can't run shit well. No surprise.

    On the flip side, the fastest growing city in India has no functional government.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/gurgaon/Fastest-growing-city-slowest-moving-too/articleshow/49265874.cms

    http://ideas.ted.com/skyscrapers-but-no-sewage-system-meet-a-city-run-by-private-industry/

    And yeah, I get it...they have no sewage! There's traffic problems! Sure, every city has problems...especially in India. And honestly, they do get the sewage out via transportation, and could form a sewage system once it's profitably.

    But how can you argue with the fact that so many people in India are eager to move there? It's obviously less of a shithole than all the cities that have a functional government in that country.

    It's the same shit with Somalia...Somalia is a shithole, sure...but it's become LESS of a shithole since the government was all but dismantled. That's what people fail to look at...

    Move to India then. Seriously. It's not just that it's a shithole. You can't drink running water, can't even brush your teeth with it. There is broken down shit everywhere. People just throw garbage on the street. I could go on for days on how shitty that place is.

    Anyone who wants the capitalist wet dream, move there. America is great because it's a mix of capitalism and government regulation. Every time the ball swings too far one way or the other, the country gets fucked up.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,024
    edited August 2016

    How do you fuck up a country rich in oil?

    Rhetorical

    Ask Mexico...




    ...or Canada....
    I'm fine with how Canadians carry themselves.

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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited August 2016
    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    2001400ex said:

    Government can't run shit well. No surprise.

    On the flip side, the fastest growing city in India has no functional government.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/gurgaon/Fastest-growing-city-slowest-moving-too/articleshow/49265874.cms

    http://ideas.ted.com/skyscrapers-but-no-sewage-system-meet-a-city-run-by-private-industry/

    And yeah, I get it...they have no sewage! There's traffic problems! Sure, every city has problems...especially in India. And honestly, they do get the sewage out via transportation, and could form a sewage system once it's profitably.

    But how can you argue with the fact that so many people in India are eager to move there? It's obviously less of a shithole than all the cities that have a functional government in that country.

    It's the same shit with Somalia...Somalia is a shithole, sure...but it's become LESS of a shithole since the government was all but dismantled. That's what people fail to look at...

    Move to India then. Seriously. It's not just that it's a shithole. You can't drink running water, can't even brush your teeth with it. There is broken down shit everywhere. People just throw garbage on the street. I could go on for days on how shitty that place is.

    Anyone who wants the capitalist wet dream, move there. America is great because it's a mix of capitalism and government regulation. Every time the ball swings too far one way or the other, the country gets fucked up.
    You can't drink the water in a lot of places, even in the US, like Flint.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If they aren't selling cars, maybe they're too expensive and they should lower the price of the car or raise wages enough so the cars are more affordable
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    It's a shame that the Republicans nominated a big government guy.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    doogie said:

    If they aren't selling cars, maybe they're too expensive and they should lower the price of the car or raise wages enough so the cars are more affordable

    This is solid work.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,673 Standard Supporter

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    It's a shame that the Republicans nominated a big government guy.
    Better than voting for Hillary like you.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,673 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    You must be very poor.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Here's the thing, Hyundai. Yes, that city is a bigger shithole than anywhere in America. But a country's type of government is not the biggest determinant of standard of living. Culture, work ethic, habits, problem-solving, ability to obtain resources, etc...those are the things that make up our quality of life.

    Just like how that city in India is considered a better place to live than other places in India, America would be a much better place too with a government that has a smaller or non-existent role.


    If you like rivers that catch on fire, sewage in the water, terrible smog, no infrastructure, etc.

    Shut the fuck up. America is great right now. Seriously, what's so intrusive about the government right now that you can't live your life as you want?
    Crooked government, NSA spying, crooked justice system, illegal immigration, lazy fucks, the economy, government spending, president aiding our enemies etc, etc, etc. and of course socialist ass hats running around saying that's all great.

    That's a real short list.
    Can you read? I said, how is the government so intrusive you can't live your life as you want. To which, nothing you discussed affects you and half the shit wouldn't change with a limited government.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.

    Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.
    However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
    Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.
    How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?
    Higher taxes
    Single payer healthcare
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    How do you fuck up a country rich in oil?

    Rhetorical

    How do you not. #resourcecurse #polisci101