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"We" got a team?doogsinparadise said:
Isn't it?RaceBannon said:Some people act like it's their money being spent.
#publicstadiumfinancing
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"We" will probably have an arena before a team. But still.PurpleJ said:
"We" got a team?doogsinparadise said:
Isn't it?RaceBannon said:Some people act like it's their money being spent.
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I fully understand the finances of the NBA. Ticket prices are a far lower percentage of the total revenue pie than the rights fees coming from all of the differing multimedia rights fees.
On one hand, I don't have a single problem with businesses making as much money as possible. But you also hit a tipping point when people start looking at things where the numbers start making sense. If a LeBron caliber player is making $100M per year, I don't think anybody looks at that and says too much. But when guys that aren't any kind of difference maker is making insane money, then you start getting people to start questioning the current direction.
As for whether or not the problem is attendance or whatnot, at present it isn't. The arenas are full for sure. Television viewership is fine. But the reality is that the rights fees for networks carrying sports keeps increasing exponentially year after year so one way or another we all are paying for it. And, if that isn't enough, you still have the small issue of arenas and the impact on the communities. My guess is that what you're going to find is that the appetite will vanish for governments to sink a ton of money into facilities when you have for instance $250M going to 2 players that have never made an All-Star team.
Again, no problem what they are doing in the short run. But what is going on is going to come back and get them somewhere down the line as they continue to chase revenue stream after revenue stream while some of the other claims start falling on deaf ears. -
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/look-celtics-mean-business-bring-tom-brady-to-kevin-durant-pitch/: Celtics mean business, bring Tom Brady to Kevin Durant pitch - CBSSports.com
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What a cool day for the Celtics ...
Brady pitching KD
Horford signing on
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Clearly you don't understand the finances or you wouldn't keep digging yourself a bigger hole.Tequilla said:I fully understand the finances of the NBA. Ticket prices are a far lower percentage of the total revenue pie than the rights fees coming from all of the differing multimedia rights fees.
On one hand, I don't have a single problem with businesses making as much money as possible. But you also hit a tipping point when people start looking at things where the numbers start making sense. If a LeBron caliber player is making $100M per year, I don't think anybody looks at that and says too much. But when guys that aren't any kind of difference maker is making insane money, then you start getting people to start questioning the current direction.
As for whether or not the problem is attendance or whatnot, at present it isn't. The arenas are full for sure. Television viewership is fine. But the reality is that the rights fees for networks carrying sports keeps increasing exponentially year after year so one way or another we all are paying for it. And, if that isn't enough, you still have the small issue of arenas and the impact on the communities. My guess is that what you're going to find is that the appetite will vanish for governments to sink a ton of money into facilities when you have for instance $250M going to 2 players that have never made an All-Star team.
Again, no problem what they are doing in the short run. But what is going on is going to come back and get them somewhere down the line as they continue to chase revenue stream after revenue stream while some of the other claims start falling on deaf ears.
What you call insane, NBA owners call good business. Increasing franchise values, winning championships, filling seats; whatever an NBA owner's motivations are, they didn't get the money to buy their franchises by being dumbfucks.
Fuck up and overpay a player? Wear the contract. Grind your teeth and grimace watching that player age, your team suck and the guy in the next city hoisting a trophy and drinking Crystal while giving you the finger.
Don't like the rights fees that the teams pass on to you? Un-hook your cable. Don't buy tickets. Tell Softy to fuck himself when he invites you down for the rally.
Of course you could be like you: Renew your tickets. Keep the lights on. Support your team. Help keep the lights on. You share the optimism. Good times are just around the next bend. Good things take time.
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Women's roller derby players make a fraction of what these guys are making... and don't get me started on facilities.
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Flagged for calling Golden State a small market team.Baseman said:
Hi. Owners set ticket prices. TV $ drives the majority of the revenues. If the owners didn't think it was good business they wouldn't offer the players fucking insane salaries. The rich wouldn't fall over themselves to buy the franchises.Tequilla said:
Missing the point I was making ...allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.Tequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.
With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane.
The fucking insane ticket prices obviously didn't keep the fans from filling the arenas to 94% of capacity, an NBA record. Even Grandpa Sankey attended two games this year.
The fact that smaller market teams like Golden State can assemble a team of stars shows how assinine your view is. -
