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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Bitter Moov is bitter
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Bitter Moov is bitter
    Are you suggesting that I'm a Mavs fan?

    I'm not ... I never got the reason why Cuban was stalking him at the club to sign the contract with him in the first place.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    edited July 2016
    Tequilla said:

    The financials for basketball need to be reviewed ... a lot of these guys owners make a lot of money

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    Not saying that the owners aren't making too much money as well ...

    I've got no problem with the idea that these guys are getting rich off of the rights deals, etc. But at that point, let's start looking back at the cost to attend games. Too many people aren't in a position to be able to attend the games. Not sure that that's a great thing.

    I'm all for people getting paid ... but there are guys that are getting crazy money that really aren't worth probably 1/3rd of what they are getting paid. Take DeRozan for instance, he's getting paid over $350k per game. He's a good player ... an all-star. So that's not crazy. But you take Parsons + Conley getting over $250M total ... and neither of them have made an all star team? That's what I'm talking about.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,373 Standard Supporter
    I understand this is the new normal, but guys like Conley getting 30 mil a year is still insane to me.

    DJ Augustine couldn't get minute as the back up PG in OKC, but is getting 7 mil.

    Griz have a nice team if they can stay healthy. I can't see them winning the West, but they have the look of a tough out who could possibly do damage.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213

    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.
    Missing the point I was making ...

    Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.

    With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    The Grizz are pretty much the new Mavs ... decent enough to be a tough out but unlikely to be a championship team