These Contracts
It's the way the NBA works with the new labor agreement, but thes contracts are crazy.
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Crap teams signing crap contracts.
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Well they do have $96 million for 12 players to split versus $130 million for 55 football players to split.
Anyone remember Jim McIlvaine? Fawk. -
TOO SOON2001400ex said:Well they do have $96 million for 12 players to split versus $130 million for 55 football players to split.
Anyone remember Jim McIlvaine? Fawk. -
ROBERT SWIFT
REAL HERO
JIM MCILVANE
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If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.TierbsHsotBoobs said:ROBERT SWIFT
REAL HERO
JIM MCILVANE
ISIS TERRORIST
Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh. -
The financials for basketball need to be reviewed ... a lot of these guys have no business making that kind of money
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I'm ok with most of the deals. Mozgov and Noah are starting centers if healthy and those prices are just the new normal. I don't understand why those teams didn't go after Biyombo, who won't be thirty fucking four in the last year of his deal, but whatever. That Turner deal is a joke. He couldn't start for Boston last year. A mediocre east team. Yeah there's less health risk and there's also zero upside. He a small forward that can't shoot and needs to have the ball to be effective, except he's not effective with the ball. I look forward to Lillards free agency tour in 5 years.
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What are your thoughts on #MyGrizz signing Parsons? I think he's worth it (in THIS economy!) if he's healthy, but the knee scares me. Could be a major upgrade though.allpurpleallgold said:I'm ok with most of the deals. Mozgov and Noah are starting centers if healthy and those prices are just the new normal. I don't understand why those teams didn't go after Biyombo, who won't be thirty fucking four in the last year of his deal, but whatever. That Turner deal is a joke. He couldn't start for Boston last year. A mediocre east team. Yeah there's less health risk and there's also zero upside. He a small forward that can't shoot and needs to have the ball to be effective, except he's not effective with the ball. I look forward to Lillards free agency tour in 5 years.
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Johan Petro wants to know why you forgot him.dnc said:
If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.TierbsHsotBoobs said:ROBERT SWIFT
REAL HERO
JIM MCILVANE
ISIS TERRORIST
Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh. -
Love the Parsons signing. It's a big risk but at least he won't be old at the end of the contract. I think they'll be fun to watch if they get some health luck. The problem is they kind of top out as the best team that has no chance to win the title. But I mean there's worse things to be.
It's going to be ugly in a few years though. Conley and Gasol in 4 years I think will be combining to make 60 million dollars at 34 or 35. Definitely try to enjoy them now because they're gonna fucking suck eventually. -
Je Suis Petro!doogsinparadise said:
Johan Petro wants to know why you forgot him.dnc said:
If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.TierbsHsotBoobs said:ROBERT SWIFT
REAL HERO
JIM MCILVANE
ISIS TERRORIST
Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh. -
I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts. -
Bitter Moov is bitterTequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts. -
Are you suggesting that I'm a Mavs fan?dnc said:
Bitter Moov is bitterTequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
I'm not ... I never got the reason why Cuban was stalking him at the club to sign the contract with him in the first place. -
Tequilla said:
The financials for basketball need to be reviewed ... a lot of these
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Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.Tequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts. -
Not saying that the owners aren't making too much money as well ...
I've got no problem with the idea that these guys are getting rich off of the rights deals, etc. But at that point, let's start looking back at the cost to attend games. Too many people aren't in a position to be able to attend the games. Not sure that that's a great thing.
I'm all for people getting paid ... but there are guys that are getting crazy money that really aren't worth probably 1/3rd of what they are getting paid. Take DeRozan for instance, he's getting paid over $350k per game. He's a good player ... an all-star. So that's not crazy. But you take Parsons + Conley getting over $250M total ... and neither of them have made an all star team? That's what I'm talking about. -
I understand this is the new normal, but guys like Conley getting 30 mil a year is still insane to me.
DJ Augustine couldn't get minute as the back up PG in OKC, but is getting 7 mil.
Griz have a nice team if they can stay healthy. I can't see them winning the West, but they have the look of a tough out who could possibly do damage. -
Missing the point I was making ...allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.Tequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.
With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane. -
The Grizz are pretty much the new Mavs ... decent enough to be a tough out but unlikely to be a championship team
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.... Except for the part where the Mavs did win a title.....Tequilla said:The Grizz are pretty much the new Mavs ... decent enough to be a tough out but unlikely to be a championship team
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Where did Richard Jefferson sign?
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First, the salary floor is bullshit. There is no penalty for not hitting it.Tequilla said:
Missing the point I was making ...allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.Tequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.
With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane.
Second, stop talking about ticket prices like its 1998. This is TV money.
Third, this is revenue. The NBA isn't just pulling numbers out of their ass, the players are guaranteed a percentage of all revenue. What your saying is the NBA is being too successfull and making too much money. They should stop it and make less so the players can make amounts that you're more comfortable with. Because getting paid 50 million for dribbling a basketball is cool just don't make 100 million.
And finally, yup, no one has ever been able to load up on top end guys before. You could never get, say, Lebron, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on the same team before. -
Welcome to 2011.Tequilla said:The Grizz are pretty much the new Mavs ... decent enough to be a tough out but unlikely to be a championship team
The Grizz have been a tough out but not quite championship caliber for awhile now. -
Biyombo is smaller than some of these other guys. I would rather take him or Festus Ezeli though.allpurpleallgold said:I'm ok with most of the deals. Mozgov and Noah are starting centers if healthy and those prices are just the new normal. I don't understand why those teams didn't go after Biyombo, who won't be thirty fucking four in the last year of his deal, but whatever. That Turner deal is a joke. He couldn't start for Boston last year. A mediocre east team. Yeah there's less health risk and there's also zero upside. He a small forward that can't shoot and needs to have the ball to be effective, except he's not effective with the ball. I look forward to Lillards free agency tour in 5 years.
Jesus Christ don't remind me about a pending Lillard free agency. "GM Bro" as he's called with reverence down here in Portland, is a fucking moron living off of the Paul trade. -
I know that Cleveland has Lebron and all, but they proved that you can still beat all these up-tempo teams if you stick to your plan and wear them down over a 6-7 game series. I still really like Memphis' all-around game and roster. They can beat anyone in the West except maybe OKC w/ Durant.RoadDawg55 said:I understand this is the new normal, but guys like Conley getting 30 mil a year is still insane to me.
DJ Augustine couldn't get minute as the back up PG in OKC, but is getting 7 mil.
Griz have a nice team if they can stay healthy. I can't see them winning the West, but they have the look of a tough out who could possibly do damage. -
Memphis owns OKChaie said:
I know that Cleveland has Lebron and all, but they proved that you can still beat all these up-tempo teams if you stick to your plan and wear them down over a 6-7 game series. I still really like Memphis' all-around game and roster. They can beat anyone in the West except maybe OKC w/ Durant.RoadDawg55 said:I understand this is the new normal, but guys like Conley getting 30 mil a year is still insane to me.
DJ Augustine couldn't get minute as the back up PG in OKC, but is getting 7 mil.
Griz have a nice team if they can stay healthy. I can't see them winning the West, but they have the look of a tough out who could possibly do damage. -
Hi. Owners set ticket prices. TV $ drives the majority of the revenues. If the owners didn't think it was good business they wouldn't offer the players fucking insane salaries. The rich wouldn't fall over themselves to buy the franchises.Tequilla said:
Missing the point I was making ...allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.Tequilla said:I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).
The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.
With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane.
The fucking insane ticket prices obviously didn't keep the fans from filling the arenas to 94% of capacity, an NBA record. Even Grandpa Sankey attended two games this year.
The fact that smaller market teams like Golden State can assemble a team of stars shows how assinine your view is.
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Some people act like it's their money being spent.
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Isn't it?RaceBannon said:Some people act like it's their money being spent.
#publicstadiumfinancing
