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RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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Even Turner getting almost 19 million a year. Noah could hardly make a lay up last year and is getting 18 mil. Mozgov is getting 16.

It's the way the NBA works with the new labor agreement, but thes contracts are crazy.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Crap teams signing crap contracts.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Well they do have $96 million for 12 players to split versus $130 million for 55 football players to split.

    Anyone remember Jim McIlvaine? Fawk.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    2001400ex said:

    Well they do have $96 million for 12 players to split versus $130 million for 55 football players to split.

    Anyone remember Jim McIlvaine? Fawk.

    TOO SOON
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    ROBERT SWIFT
    REAL HERO
    JIM MCILVANE
    ISIS TERRORIST
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    ROBERT SWIFT
    REAL HERO
    JIM MCILVANE
    ISIS TERRORIST

    If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.

    Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    The financials for basketball need to be reviewed ... a lot of these guys have no business making that kind of money
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    I'm ok with most of the deals. Mozgov and Noah are starting centers if healthy and those prices are just the new normal. I don't understand why those teams didn't go after Biyombo, who won't be thirty fucking four in the last year of his deal, but whatever. That Turner deal is a joke. He couldn't start for Boston last year. A mediocre east team. Yeah there's less health risk and there's also zero upside. He a small forward that can't shoot and needs to have the ball to be effective, except he's not effective with the ball. I look forward to Lillards free agency tour in 5 years.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    I'm ok with most of the deals. Mozgov and Noah are starting centers if healthy and those prices are just the new normal. I don't understand why those teams didn't go after Biyombo, who won't be thirty fucking four in the last year of his deal, but whatever. That Turner deal is a joke. He couldn't start for Boston last year. A mediocre east team. Yeah there's less health risk and there's also zero upside. He a small forward that can't shoot and needs to have the ball to be effective, except he's not effective with the ball. I look forward to Lillards free agency tour in 5 years.

    What are your thoughts on #MyGrizz signing Parsons? I think he's worth it (in THIS economy!) if he's healthy, but the knee scares me. Could be a major upgrade though.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    dnc said:

    ROBERT SWIFT
    REAL HERO
    JIM MCILVANE
    ISIS TERRORIST

    If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.

    Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh.
    Johan Petro wants to know why you forgot him.
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Love the Parsons signing. It's a big risk but at least he won't be old at the end of the contract. I think they'll be fun to watch if they get some health luck. The problem is they kind of top out as the best team that has no chance to win the title. But I mean there's worse things to be.

    It's going to be ugly in a few years though. Conley and Gasol in 4 years I think will be combining to make 60 million dollars at 34 or 35. Definitely try to enjoy them now because they're gonna fucking suck eventually.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    ROBERT SWIFT
    REAL HERO
    JIM MCILVANE
    ISIS TERRORIST

    If you can't see Mouhamed Sene is ISIS I can't help you.

    Jim McIlvane is Timothy McVeigh.
    Johan Petro wants to know why you forgot him.
    Je Suis Petro!
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Bitter Moov is bitter
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Bitter Moov is bitter
    Are you suggesting that I'm a Mavs fan?

    I'm not ... I never got the reason why Cuban was stalking him at the club to sign the contract with him in the first place.
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    BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    Tequilla said:

    The financials for basketball need to be reviewed ... a lot of these guys owners make a lot of money

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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Not saying that the owners aren't making too much money as well ...

    I've got no problem with the idea that these guys are getting rich off of the rights deals, etc. But at that point, let's start looking back at the cost to attend games. Too many people aren't in a position to be able to attend the games. Not sure that that's a great thing.

    I'm all for people getting paid ... but there are guys that are getting crazy money that really aren't worth probably 1/3rd of what they are getting paid. Take DeRozan for instance, he's getting paid over $350k per game. He's a good player ... an all-star. So that's not crazy. But you take Parsons + Conley getting over $250M total ... and neither of them have made an all star team? That's what I'm talking about.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    I understand this is the new normal, but guys like Conley getting 30 mil a year is still insane to me.

    DJ Augustine couldn't get minute as the back up PG in OKC, but is getting 7 mil.

    Griz have a nice team if they can stay healthy. I can't see them winning the West, but they have the look of a tough out who could possibly do damage.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Tequilla said:

    I question how much Parsons has left ... I wouldn't put close to $100M on my cap with a guy that may have little left in his knee (or at minimum, needs to have a good knee to be an effective player at that salary).

    The money is the new norm ... but that doesn't make it right. Smart teams will exploit this by putting together as many max guys as possible and filling out their roster with guys looking for the chance to win (and the $$$ that come with that) and let the not quite good enough All Stars sign their cap crippling $15-$20M a year contracts.

    Yeah, why doesn't everyone just sign a bunch of all stars and win the championship? Stupid GMs.
    Missing the point I was making ...

    Of course not everybody will be able to do that because there are only so many teams that can do that ... but more than ever the handful of franchises that are able to obtain and/or attract these players will be able to stock pile these kinds of players. With how much the cap is, you'll be able to load multiple top end guys under the cap which you used to never be able to do unless you obtained all of them. There was never the potential for a team like the Warriors to have the kind of money available to be able to go out and make a legit run at a player like KD.

    With the idea of salary floors, etc., too many of these teams have no choice but to spend the money and in so doing are going to enter into bad contract after bad contract for guys that quite frankly suck. Evan Turner isn't worth close to $250k per game. That's fucking insane. That means the equivalent of a full capacity arena of 20k paying $12.50 of their ticket price directly to Evan Turner each game ... I know there's more into it than that ... but that's what I'm getting at. It's fucking insane.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    The Grizz are pretty much the new Mavs ... decent enough to be a tough out but unlikely to be a championship team
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