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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    OKC v Golden State will be epic. Fuck the Spurs

    Durant has to get this one. He was the transcendent talent before Curry was. He was going to change the game.

    But I like my Cavs this year

    As a LeBron stan, you should hope OKC gets through.
    Donovan v Lue.

    OKC wins rather easily.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Doogles said:

    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...

    When you say talented don't you just mean athletic? Cavs and Warriors are more skilled.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Doogles said:

    The AGE finally won. It was an honorable battle, but damn Duncan flat lined at the wrong time.

    Spurs will be fine. With Pop, Leonard, and Aldridge they are set. The Duncan-Parker-Ginobili trio is done though.

    Parker is still okay, but he's been slipping for awhile. He was great a few seasons ago.

    Duncan finally crashed this year. He's finally too old to get by.

    Ginobili is a boss, but he's been done for awhile. The fact he doesn't embarrass himself out there is a feat in itself.
    Pop gonna retire and LaMarcus is allergic to the conference finals.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Doogles said:

    The AGE finally won. It was an honorable battle, but damn Duncan flat lined at the wrong time.

    Spurs will be fine. With Pop, Leonard, and Aldridge they are set. The Duncan-Parker-Ginobili trio is done though.

    Parker is still okay, but he's been slipping for awhile. He was great a few seasons ago.

    Duncan finally crashed this year. He's finally too old to get by.

    Ginobili is a boss, but he's been done for awhile. The fact he doesn't embarrass himself out there is a feat in itself.
    Pop gonna retire and LaMarcus is allergic to the conference finals.
    All changes if Pop retires. If he doesn't, they have a great core and money to burn once Duncan, Ginobili, and maybe Diaw (great role player in the past btw) get out.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...

    When you say talented don't you just mean athletic? Cavs and Warriors are more skilled.
    I mean talented. They have 2 top 5 players in the game. One is a former MVP with a unique skillset for his size. The other is the most athletic guy in the league and a triple-double machine.

    They should have won a title by now.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...

    When you say talented don't you just mean athletic? Cavs and Warriors are more skilled.
    I mean talented. They have 2 top 5 players in the game. One is a former MVP with a unique skillset for his size. The other is the most athletic guy in the league and a triple-double machine.

    They should have won a title by now.
    My theory is Scott Brooks is a shit coach.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...

    When you say talented don't you just mean athletic? Cavs and Warriors are more skilled.
    I mean talented. They have 2 top 5 players in the game. One is a former MVP with a unique skillset for his size. The other is the most athletic guy in the league and a triple-double machine.

    They should have won a title by now.
    Westbrook is probably the most athletic dude in the league outside of Lavine, but he doesn't shoot like Curry or run the point and pass like Lebron. Conflating the two qualities isn't helpful.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    The OKC - Warriors series is going to be legit.

    The best team vs. the most talented team. MVP vs. MVP. OKC with as much confidence as they've ever had. Should be magic out west.

    Meanwhile, back east...

    When you say talented don't you just mean athletic? Cavs and Warriors are more skilled.
    I mean talented. They have 2 top 5 players in the game. One is a former MVP with a unique skillset for his size. The other is the most athletic guy in the league and a triple-double machine.

    They should have won a title by now.
    Westbrook is probably the most athletic dude in the league outside of Lavine, but he doesn't shoot like Curry or run the point and pass like Lebron. Conflating the two qualities isn't helpful.
    Ok, so he's not an autubot or decepticon. You just knocked OKCs talent level by saying their #2 isn't better than a Curry & Lebron combo.

    He can drive at will, guard anyone, rebound and score. If there was a roster reset and league wide draft you could argue he would be picked ahead of KD and Leonard. Top 3 no doubt. Hell if you had to pick Curry or Westbrook as a GM that would be a damn close call.

    He's not a slam dunk champion getting by on hops. He's an ultra competitor who's only knock is not knowing when to hone in his alpha and defer to an MVP.

    The front court of Ibaka, Adams, and Kanter is also drool worthy. There is a huge amount of talent on that team.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Good thing for the Warriors there is more to winning basketball than individual talent
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
    You would pick Green over Westbrook and Durant?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Take the L @RoadDawg55.

    My Benjamin isn't taken until GS beats OKC.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    For the record, I think Green is a very special player. He is a true winner, a souped up Dennis Rodman in a lot of ways.

    But there is nobody else in the world who is 6'10 that has the ball handling, shooting, and passing skills of Durant.

    There is nobody else in the world who can athletically overwhelm and punish you like Westbrook (Derek Rose was the closest thing to him and now that's gone).

    My man crush for Curry is well documented, but if those two guys are on, it's night night for pretty much everybody.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    The Warriors have more talent from players 3-12. It's not that close either.

    Warriors don't have a single roster flaw. OKC starts Andre Robertson at the 2 and relies on Dion Waiters.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    The Warriors have more talent from players 3-12. It's not that close either.

    Warriors don't have a single roster flaw. OKC starts Andre Robertson at the 2 and relies on Dion Waiters.

    In a game where 1 player can be the difference from making the finals and missing the playoffs, isn't having 2 superstars a little more meaningful?

    I agree the Warriors are the best team in the game and are pretty much perfectly stocked, but OKC has 2 generational guys in their prime on the same squad.

    For all the Curry haters out there, this scalp is going to be well earned.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Doogles said:

    For the record, I think Green is a very special player. He is a true winner, a souped up Dennis Rodman in a lot of ways.

    But there is nobody else in the world who is 6'10 that has the ball handling, shooting, and passing skills of Durant.

    There is nobody else in the world who can athletically overwhelm and punish you like Westbrook (Derek Rose was the closest thing to him and now that's gone).

    My man crush for Curry is well documented, but if those two guys are on, it's night night for pretty much everybody.

    There is a guy that you didn't even mention that is averaging 27 per game this post season for GS.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Doogles said:

    The Warriors have more talent from players 3-12. It's not that close either.

    Warriors don't have a single roster flaw. OKC starts Andre Robertson at the 2 and relies on Dion Waiters.

    In a game where 1 player can be the difference from making the finals and missing the playoffs, isn't having 2 superstars a little more meaningful?

    I agree the Warriors are the best team in the game and are pretty much perfectly stocked, but OKC has 2 generational guys in their prime on the same squad.

    For all the Curry haters out there, this scalp is going to be well earned.
    Golden State has the best player in the game paired with 2 other all stars. And they have a great bench.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    The Warriors have more talent from players 3-12. It's not that close either.

    Warriors don't have a single roster flaw. OKC starts Andre Robertson at the 2 and relies on Dion Waiters.

    In a game where 1 player can be the difference from making the finals and missing the playoffs, isn't having 2 superstars a little more meaningful?

    I agree the Warriors are the best team in the game and are pretty much perfectly stocked, but OKC has 2 generational guys in their prime on the same squad.

    For all the Curry haters out there, this scalp is going to be well earned.
    Golden State has the best player in the game paired with 2 other all stars. And they have a great bench.
    Yes. They are the best team.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
    You would pick Green over Westbrook and Durant?
    I don't think you know what replicate means.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
    You would pick Green over Westbrook and Durant?
    I don't think you know what replicate means.
    An undersized stretch 4 is much easier to replicate than a 6'10 sharp shooter with handles.

    Westbrook makes NBA athletes look like junior high kids. Nobody in the world like him except for pre injury MVP Rose.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
    You would pick Green over Westbrook and Durant?
    I don't think you know what replicate means.
    An undersized stretch 4 is much easier to replicate than a 6'10 sharp shooter with handles.

    Westbrook makes NBA athletes look like junior high kids. Nobody in the world like him except for pre injury MVP Rose.
    Durant and Westbrook have no rings.

    Great take otherwise.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Steph Curry- best player in the league former top 10 pick
    Draymond Green- top 10 player
    Klay Thompson- top 10 3 point shooter all time, 11th overall pick
    Andrew Bogut- former number 1 overall pick
    Harrison Barnes- 1 player coming out of high school former top 10 pick
    Andre Igoudala- former top 10 pick
    Shaun Livingston- former top 5 pick

    The idea that anyone is more talented than Golden State is fucktarded. They work because of all the talent not in spite of it because of teamwork and elbow grease.

    They are incredibly talented and better coached. But top end talent I give it to the Thunder.

    The draft position game is easy to play in the NBA.

    Durant #2
    Kanter #3
    Westbrook, Waiters #4
    Foye #7
    Adams, Collison #12

    The Westbrook/Durant combo on Paper is the most ruthless in the NBA. Both guys get the job done in ways nobody else can replicate.
    Who exactly is replicating what Curry and Green do?
    You would pick Green over Westbrook and Durant?
    I don't think you know what replicate means.
    An undersized stretch 4 is much easier to replicate than a 6'10 sharp shooter with handles.

    Westbrook makes NBA athletes look like junior high kids. Nobody in the world like him except for pre injury MVP Rose.
    Durant and Westbrook have no rings.

    Great take otherwise.
    That's their problem. Doesn't mean they aren't the most talented duo in the league.

    But you're right, Warriors in 5.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    I think both sides are right on this. The Warriors have assembled a damn near perfect roster that compliments one another very well around the best player in the game, and the Thunder have two transcendent superstars.

    Pure talent I think OKC has more, at least where it counts (players 9-12 don't matter in the playoffs baring injury). Actual skill GS has more, probably a lot more. Basically everyone on GS has overachieved their natural gifts whereas you wouldn't call anybody on OKC an overachiever except maybe Westbrook and Adams.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    I think both sides are right on this. The Warriors have assembled a damn near perfect roster that compliments one another very well around the best player in the game, and the Thunder have two transcendent superstars.

    Pure talent I think OKC has more, at least where it counts (players 9-12 don't matter in the playoffs baring injury). Actual skill GS has more, probably a lot more. Basically everyone on GS has overachieved their natural gifts whereas you wouldn't call anybody on OKC an overachiever except maybe Westbrook and Adams.

    Superstars win titles.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    I think both sides are right on this. The Warriors have assembled a damn near perfect roster that compliments one another very well around the best player in the game, and the Thunder have two transcendent superstars.

    Pure talent I think OKC has more, at least where it counts (players 9-12 don't matter in the playoffs baring injury). Actual skill GS has more, probably a lot more. Basically everyone on GS has overachieved their natural gifts whereas you wouldn't call anybody on OKC an overachiever except maybe Westbrook and Adams.

    Superstars win titles.
    Scott Brooks says hello