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My one issue with Hugh Millen

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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754

    TTJ said:

    I will try and respond before the thread veers of course. The EWU, Portland St, etc are now what the San Jose St, Pacific, Toledo, etc of the world once where before the 100 scholarship limits. Right now 180 kids are pushed down because of the limits on the Pac 12 teams, so the talent level has been spread throughout the mid majors, forcing more talented players to play into the sub division.

    The majority of Husky schedules have included a cupcake.

    Wow. Vehemently disagree. If UW's OOC sched used to follow an A-B-C formula (or A-A-C in some years), this year's is B-C-F. Next year's is C-D-F-F.
    Were weren't talking about the SOS? I was pointing out the back in the day, teams like San Jose St, Toledo, Pacific (RIP) were getting some of the kids that are no forced down to sub division because of scholarship limits.

    As for next year's SOS, I do AGREE it is a joke.
    There are more kids getting FBS scholarships now than there were kids getting I-A scholarships 30 years ago.

    Don't let math ruin your fucktarded arguments though.
    Old Dominion approves this fucking stupid post.

    Just because the keep adding crappy teams to the FBS, does not change the argument that the talent is getting diluted.
    Actually, the numbers show that the increase in crappy FBS teams over the past 30 years provided a home for the talent dilution and for 800 kids that would have been in I-AA 30 years ago.

    Do REAL research or get the fuck out of here.
    That probable explains why a record # of FBS teams lost to lower division schools on the opening weekend.

    One week of anecdotal data doesn't beat simple math.

    Well, I guess if they keep adding shitty FBS teams then your "math" wins.

    Thanks for finally getting it. Shitty FBS teams with 85 scholarships are better opponents than FCS schools, just like D grades are better than F grades.



    LEAVE!
    We got too many thread going, but you are dumber than I thought (not sure that is possible) if you think ND St could not compete with the likes of South Ala. (So. Utah says hi) in the fucking Sun Belt.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    TTJ said:

    I will try and respond before the thread veers of course. The EWU, Portland St, etc are now what the San Jose St, Pacific, Toledo, etc of the world once where before the 100 scholarship limits. Right now 180 kids are pushed down because of the limits on the Pac 12 teams, so the talent level has been spread throughout the mid majors, forcing more talented players to play into the sub division.

    The majority of Husky schedules have included a cupcake.

    Wow. Vehemently disagree. If UW's OOC sched used to follow an A-B-C formula (or A-A-C in some years), this year's is B-C-F. Next year's is C-D-F-F.
    Were weren't talking about the SOS? I was pointing out the back in the day, teams like San Jose St, Toledo, Pacific (RIP) were getting some of the kids that are no forced down to sub division because of scholarship limits.

    As for next year's SOS, I do AGREE it is a joke.
    There are more kids getting FBS scholarships now than there were kids getting I-A scholarships 30 years ago.

    Don't let math ruin your fucktarded arguments though.
    Old Dominion approves this fucking stupid post.

    Just because the keep adding crappy teams to the FBS, does not change the argument that the talent is getting diluted.
    Actually, the numbers show that the increase in crappy FBS teams over the past 30 years provided a home for the talent dilution and for 800 kids that would have been in I-AA 30 years ago.

    Do REAL research or get the fuck out of here.
    That probable explains why a record # of FBS teams lost to lower division schools on the opening weekend.

    One week of anecdotal data doesn't beat simple math.

    Well, I guess if they keep adding shitty FBS teams then your "math" wins.

    Thanks for finally getting it. Shitty FBS teams with 85 scholarships are better opponents than FCS schools, just like D grades are better than F grades.



    LEAVE!
    We got too many thread going, but you are dumber than I thought (not sure that is possible) if you think ND St could not compete with the likes of South Ala. (So. Utah says hi) in the fucking Sun Belt.
    Of course there are isolated cases. The best FCS team is better than the worst FBS team 8 out of 10 years.

    The problem is that you can't schedule years in advance to get the best FCS team, so you have to go with the overall data instead of isolated anecdotal examples.

    In general, the shitty FBS team with 85 scholarships will be tougher than the good FCS team with 63 scholarships.


    Stop cherry picking. You think you're better than that, so be better than that.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    Is still more challenging than Arizona's 2013 schedule:

    N. Arizona
    @ UNLV
    UTSA (San Antonio)
    I always knew UW wanted to be just like Arizona, I just didn't think it would happen so soon.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113


    I always knew UW wanted to be just like Arizona, I just didn't think it would happen so soon.

    I too try to forget about the We Are a Basketball School Years.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I think Sven takes the internets too seriously. Oh. And HI HARV!
  • Irish is melting down like Bronc4Blue is on the scout sites.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,328 Founders Club

    Irish is melting down like Bronc4Blue is on the scout sites.

    We'll get the Vanilla lawyers all over his ass if he's posting our premium content!
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754

    Irish is melting down like Bronc4Blue is on the scout sites.

    Did you gals get a room let?

    Sounds like LOSER has gotten under your skin on a couple of boards.

    What a pussy.
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    and I enjoy my interaction with Boobs. At least he brings something to the table.

    Unlike some people who just whine as they pick the sand out of their vagina.
  • You aren't very good at this message board thing.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    Is still more challenging than Arizona's 2013 schedule:

    N. Arizona
    @ UNLV
    UTSA (San Antonio)
    Thank you for reaffirming my choice to NOT renew season tickets. That OOC lineup is embarrassing.

    No. Other. Way. To. Spin. It.

  • In 2014 only the UCLA game is worth going to IMO.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    I don't go in for most of the Hugh bashing that goes on around here. I like and respect him.

    But I do have one issue with him that has disappointed me greatly.

    For years and years he was one of the most vocal opponents I've ever heard about Division I/BCS opponents not scheduling cupcakes in order to get easy victories. Sometimes he would state his case almost to the point of anger. He said it was cowardly and cheapened the game of football, and he always said how proud he was that Washington never stooped to that type of thing. And I agreed 100%.

    But when UW first announced its scheduling of Eastern Washington, with more cupcakes like Portland State and Idaho State on the horizon, Hugh did an immediate 180 and said how the idea had merit and it was a good thing for the Huskies to do since virtually everyone else was doing it.

    It was extremely disappointing. And now we have a watered down schedule tailor-made to take as much pressure off Sark as possible... Instead of striving for real greatness.

    Don't agree. I think as long as UW still played ABC, it was OK because the SEC was scheduling CCC
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Shoot, still is!
  • Our schedule right now is a B, C, F. Next year it's a C, C, F, D.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,697 Standard Supporter

    I will try and respond before the thread veers of course. The EWU, Portland St, etc are now what the San Jose St, Pacific, Toledo, etc of the world once where before the 100 scholarship limits. Right now 180 kids are pushed down because of the limits on the Pac 12 teams, so the talent level has been spread throughout the mid majors, forcing more talented players to play into the sub division.

    The majority of Husky schedules have included a cupcake.

    And it is more about keeping up with the Jones' than protecting Sark.

    Pure and simple it has to do with the amount of $$$ floating around college football.

    I agree somewhat. The gap between d-1a and aa has closed a great deal. ND St, Appalachian State, Eastern, And Sac State... those teams just did not upset Good and mid level what were then BCS teams in the 80's and early 90's. I remember when we played teams like Pacific and Bowling for Columbine Green In the 80's... A lot of those teams were garbage. The MAC wasn't nearly as good as it is now. all that said, there's still no excuse for scheduling the 1 AA (FCS Is a retarded term Invented by some PR firm to blur the line between the upper division and Lower Division teams) schools. There are still plenty of garbage 1-a teams. New Mexico State, UT San Antonio, UNLV, CSU, Vandals, And probably half of the Sun Belt and Mac...Pool Bitch could make it work if he wanted to. He just doesn't and wants to ensure an automatic win.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    If only that wasn't true.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    I can add one other reason to dislike cupcake scheduling in order to pad the win column while pocketing more revenue by feasting on less demanding FCS midgets. Scott Woodward has said it himself that such scheduling is the "Oregon Way", and for our AD to waddle down the same quack path as the ducks is despicable.
  • topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    Just like at the start of the year most on here were saying we'd be 2-2 or 1-3.

    Jesus people, I know this team isn't awesome but we also don't suck either.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Not to hijack this thread but Hugh has been adamant this week on Mitch in morning about hating this type of game. He hasn't changed his tune. He would prefer the big teams play each other and just find a different way to fund the Idaho states of the world.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited September 2013

    Not to hijack this thread but Hugh has been adamant this week on Mitch in morning about hating this type of game. He hasn't changed his tune. He would prefer the big teams play each other and just find a different way to fund the Idaho states of the world.

    It would be hard to toe the company line and be a respectable host if he stays true to his convictions.

    But it is Seattle sports-talk.... home of the biggest mouth-breathing homers in the lower 48.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082

    I don't go in for most of the Hugh bashing that goes on around here. I like and respect him.

    But I do have one issue with him that has disappointed me greatly.

    For years and years he was one of the most vocal opponents I've ever heard about Division I/BCS opponents not scheduling cupcakes in order to get easy victories. Sometimes he would state his case almost to the point of anger. He said it was cowardly and cheapened the game of football, and he always said how proud he was that Washington never stooped to that type of thing. And I agreed 100%.

    But when UW first announced its scheduling of Eastern Washington, with more cupcakes like Portland State and Idaho State on the horizon, Hugh did an immediate 180 and said how the idea had merit and it was a good thing for the Huskies to do since virtually everyone else was doing it.

    It was extremely disappointing. And now we have a watered down schedule tailor-made to take as much pressure off Sark as possible... Instead of striving for real greatness.

    so, what you're saying is that you're ok with the bad hair plugs?

    cuz I'm not.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    Really?

    Sark ...

    New QB

    EWU nearly beat UW and did beat OSU

    Hawaii could be overlooked

    Illinois was two dropped passes from beating UW this year.

    I hate to be a debbie downer, the fact is until proven otherwise ...

    If you can prove me wrong, please do so.

    Sark is gonna Sark.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    Really?

    Sark ...

    New QB

    EWU nearly beat UW and did beat OSU

    Hawaii could be overlooked

    Illinois was two dropped passes from beating UW this year.

    I hate to be a debbie downer, the fact is until proven otherwise ...

    If you can prove me wrong, please do so.

    Sark is gonna Sark.

    I knew you were going to say that about Eastern. If they played Oregon State 10 times, they would lose 9. We are much better than 2011. That game is not relevant.

    Hawaii is fucking terrible. Have you watched them?

    We outgained Illinois by almost 300 yards. They were lucky to be within 10. Not to mention, it was a road game. Next year's game is at home. Easy win.

    You're not a Debbie Downer, you are a fucking idiot. I will bet a lot of money if you want to bet we will go 2-2 or 1-3 next year. You should really die in a fire. You are just as fucking stupid as 14AFS.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    topdawgnc said:

    However, next year, I think UW has the easiest OOC I have ever seen from an AQ school.

    UW's 2014 schedule is a disgrace, but I'd say this:


    08/30 - at Hawaii
    09/06 - Eastern Washington
    09/13 - Illinois
    09/20 - Georgia State

    What scares the shit out of me ...

    2-2 or 1-3 could be reality.

    The only for sure win I see is Georgia State.
    This is like the opposite of a section14AFS post, but just as fucking stupid.

    Really?

    Sark ...

    New QB

    EWU nearly beat UW and did beat OSU

    Hawaii could be overlooked

    Illinois was two dropped passes from beating UW this year.

    I hate to be a debbie downer, the fact is until proven otherwise ...

    If you can prove me wrong, please do so.

    Sark is gonna Sark.

    Reverse AuburnDawgFS
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:



    I knew you were going to say that about Eastern. If they played Oregon State 10 times, they would lose 9. We are much better than 2011. That game is not relevant.

    Hawaii is fucking terrible. Have you watched them?

    We outgained Illinois by almost 300 yards. They were lucky to be within 10. Not to mention, it was a road game. Next year's game is at home. Easy win.

    You're not a Debbie Downer, you are a fucking idiot. I will bet a lot of money if you want to bet we will go 2-2 or 1-3 next year. You should really die in a fire. You are just as fucking stupid as 14AFS.

    You really enjoy the word if and lucky.

    If Eastern plays OSU 10 times ... here's a hint ... they don't and EWU won. EWU also damn near beat UW (in Seattle).

    Illinois was lucky to be within 10 ... they were. It's sad UW out gained them by 300 and it was so close.

    Stop dealing with the words if and lucky ... you will then see my point.




  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148





    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:



    I knew you were going to say that about Eastern. If they played Oregon State 10 times, they would lose 9. We are much better than 2011. That game is not relevant.

    Hawaii is fucking terrible. Have you watched them?

    We outgained Illinois by almost 300 yards. They were lucky to be within 10. Not to mention, it was a road game. Next year's game is at home. Easy win.

    You're not a Debbie Downer, you are a fucking idiot. I will bet a lot of money if you want to bet we will go 2-2 or 1-3 next year. You should really die in a fire. You are just as fucking stupid as 14AFS.

    You really enjoy the word if and lucky.

    If Eastern plays OSU 10 times ... here's a hint ... they don't and EWU won. EWU also damn near beat UW (in Seattle).

    Illinois was lucky to be within 10 ... they were. It's sad UW out gained them by 300 and it was so close.

    Stop dealing with the words if and lucky ... you will then see my point.




    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:



    I knew you were going to say that about Eastern. If they played Oregon State 10 times, they would lose 9. We are much better than 2011. That game is not relevant.

    Hawaii is fucking terrible. Have you watched them?

    We outgained Illinois by almost 300 yards. They were lucky to be within 10. Not to mention, it was a road game. Next year's game is at home. Easy win.

    You're not a Debbie Downer, you are a fucking idiot. I will bet a lot of money if you want to bet we will go 2-2 or 1-3 next year. You should really die in a fire. You are just as fucking stupid as 14AFS.

    You really enjoy the word if and lucky.

    If Eastern plays OSU 10 times ... here's a hint ... they don't and EWU won. EWU also damn near beat UW (in Seattle).

    Illinois was lucky to be within 10 ... they were. It's sad UW out gained them by 300 and it was so close.

    Stop dealing with the words if and lucky ... you will then see my point.




    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:



    I knew you were going to say that about Eastern. If they played Oregon State 10 times, they would lose 9. We are much better than 2011. That game is not relevant.

    Hawaii is fucking terrible. Have you watched them?

    We outgained Illinois by almost 300 yards. They were lucky to be within 10. Not to mention, it was a road game. Next year's game is at home. Easy win.

    You're not a Debbie Downer, you are a fucking idiot. I will bet a lot of money if you want to bet we will go 2-2 or 1-3 next year. You should really die in a fire. You are just as fucking stupid as 14AFS.

    You really enjoy the word if and lucky.

    If Eastern plays OSU 10 times ... here's a hint ... they don't and EWU won. EWU also damn near beat UW (in Seattle).

    Illinois was lucky to be within 10 ... they were. It's sad UW out gained them by 300 and it was so close.

    Stop dealing with the words if and lucky ... you will then see my point.




    I counted two ifs (one was IF you want to bet about 2-2) and one lucky. I fully understand that Sark is Sark, but other than BYU he hasn't lost non conference games to inferior opponents, especially at home.

    Take all the screenshots you need, UW will not start 2-2 or 1-3. Even 3-1 would be surprising. You are probably the only person dumb enough to think we will.