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With both Sanders and Trump calling for single payer health care and increasing taxes on the wealthy

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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,305 Founders Club
    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    You're a good little freeshitter aren't you? It's almost as if you're dumber than a sack of rocks and will just parrot any old bullshit you're told as long as it demonizes someone who has more than you. Stop wanting some imaginary force in the government to equalize things for you, get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    You can start by educating yourself on marginal tax rates vs. real rate of taxation. It's a myth that anyone actually paid anything REMOTELY close to the 90% rates you're regurgitating. http://almostclassical.blogspot.com/2011/03/90-tax-rate-myth.html
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    Then we can all get great care like the VA

    Or, you know, Medicare.

    But it's totally moot. Single-payer is one of the most unachievable policies out there.
    Majority of Americans support a policy. Policy is completely unachievable. Candidate says system is rigged, need a political revolution. Candidate is unelectable.

    Tell me again about how we're the greatest nation on earth. Lol.
    Do you want a real answer on why single-payer is not feasible, or are you just here to bitch and moan about the status quo?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    Huh? 8 years at MSFT, 5 at TMobile, and 3 at Amazon as a highly paid software dev. I own 3 rental properties in Seattle.

    Let's meet up and compare our respective balance sheets, and you'll see who has done more for themselves.

    I actually care about the rest of my nation's citizens. I think everybody deserves health care, and wall street welfare needs to end. Bernie is the only candidate honest enough to make this happen.

    In conclusion -- fuck off.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,254 Standard Supporter

    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    You're a good little freeshitter aren't you? It's almost as if you're dumber than a sack of rocks and will just parrot any old bullshit you're told as long as it demonizes someone who has more than you. Stop wanting some imaginary force in the government to equalize things for you, get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    You can start by educating yourself on marginal tax rates vs. real rate of taxation. It's a myth that anyone actually paid anything REMOTELY close to the 90% rates you're regurgitating. http://almostclassical.blogspot.com/2011/03/90-tax-rate-myth.html
    I know two people who are working 2 jobs and probably 50-65 hours a week and they're both professionals. One probably clears 90,000-110,000 in his primary job yet he still has to do this. They still have a lot of debt. I work a several 45-50 hour weeks per yr. It's a little more complicated than "Get off your ass you lazy lib cocksucker" in a lot of cases. Healthscare coverage skyrockets and people who have insurance still get screwed.

    Sorry for the threadjack.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,305 Founders Club
    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    Huh? 8 years at MSFT, 5 at TMobile, and 3 at Amazon as a highly paid software dev. I own 3 rental properties in Seattle.

    Let's meet up and compare our respective balance sheets, and you'll see who has done more for themselves.

    I actually care about the rest of my nation's citizens. I think everybody deserves health care, and wall street welfare needs to end. Bernie is the only candidate honest enough to make this happen.

    In conclusion -- fuck off.
    So don't educate yourself. I don't give a fuck if you remain ignorant to the truth and continue believing that taxing the rich will do shit to help your? nation's citizens. Read the link I posted and the well educated responses below the article if you actually care. What's funny is you think you're intelligent because you wrote code and made a little money. In those 8 years you're so proud of, I generated more than $30,000,000 in tax revenue for your? nation's citizens. Do you think they were able to do more with that money or your 3 rental properties? Do you want to compare dick sizes too?

    "With a $3.5 trillion annual budget, all the wealth of Bill Gates ($45B) would fund 1.3% (4.7 days) of the U.S. government. That's it. Not even one week. The 400 richest Americans, all their wealth, would fund the system for 100 days. There are 403 billionaires in the U.S., with a total net worth of $1.28 trillion.

    http://almostclassical.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html

    The numbers haven't changed much. You might get 180 days by taking (not even taxing) all the money of the One Percent. Better to grow the economy for everyone than to merely seek some sort of "fairness" through taxes. Then what? The rich would be poor… and the nation, still broke." C.S. Wyatt
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Then we can all get great care like the VA

    Or, you know, Medicare.

    But it's totally moot. Single-payer is one of the most unachievable policies out there.
    Majority of Americans support a policy. Policy is completely unachievable. Candidate says system is rigged, need a political revolution. Candidate is unelectable.

    Tell me again about how we're the greatest nation on earth. Lol.
    Do you want a real answer on why single-payer is not feasible, or are you just here to bitch and moan about the status quo?
    You'd be the first person to offer a real answer.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,305 Founders Club

    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    You're a good little freeshitter aren't you? It's almost as if you're dumber than a sack of rocks and will just parrot any old bullshit you're told as long as it demonizes someone who has more than you. Stop wanting some imaginary force in the government to equalize things for you, get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    You can start by educating yourself on marginal tax rates vs. real rate of taxation. It's a myth that anyone actually paid anything REMOTELY close to the 90% rates you're regurgitating. http://almostclassical.blogspot.com/2011/03/90-tax-rate-myth.html
    I know two people who are working 2 jobs and probably 50-65 hours a week and they're both professionals. One probably clears 90,000-110,000 in his primary job yet he still has to do this. They still have a lot of debt. I work a several 45-50 hour weeks per yr. It's a little more complicated than "Get off your ass you lazy lib cocksucker" in a lot of cases. Healthscare coverage skyrockets and people who have insurance still get screwed.

    Sorry for the threadjack.
    You're not hijacking anything Bill and I appreciate the civil discourse. Of course it's more complicated than "Get off your ass you lazy lib cocksucker." My days start at 6:00 and don't end until roughly 8:00 so yeah I get the hard work and hours thing. I pay 100% of my employee's healthcare so I know about getting screwed. However, when some ignorant fuck starts spouting off bullshit about how the rich used to pay 95% taxes, I'm going to call that dumbfuck out and set the record straight. It's a lie designed to cause envy nothing more.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    OZONE said:

    By the way, the tax rate on the top 1% that Bernie is proposing, is still below the rate paid by that group during the Eisenhower administration... and I've never heard anybody call Eisenhower's policies communist.

    You're a good little freeshitter aren't you? It's almost as if you're dumber than a sack of rocks and will just parrot any old bullshit you're told as long as it demonizes someone who has more than you. Stop wanting some imaginary force in the government to equalize things for you, get off your retarded lazy ass and make it happen for yourself.

    You can start by educating yourself on marginal tax rates vs. real rate of taxation. It's a myth that anyone actually paid anything REMOTELY close to the 90% rates you're regurgitating. http://almostclassical.blogspot.com/2011/03/90-tax-rate-myth.html
    I know two people who are working 2 jobs and probably 50-65 hours a week and they're both professionals. One probably clears 90,000-110,000 in his primary job yet he still has to do this. They still have a lot of debt. I work a several 45-50 hour weeks per yr. It's a little more complicated than "Get off your ass you lazy lib cocksucker" in a lot of cases. Healthscare coverage skyrockets and people who have insurance still get screwed.

    Sorry for the threadjack.
    You're not hijacking anything Bill and I appreciate the civil discourse. Of course it's more complicated than "Get off your ass you lazy lib cocksucker." My days start at 6:00 and don't end until roughly 8:00 so yeah I get the hard work and hours thing. I pay 100% of my employee's healthcare so I know about getting screwed. However, when some ignorant fuck starts spouting off bullshit about how the rich used to pay 95% taxes, I'm going to call that dumbfuck out and set the record straight. It's a lie designed to cause envy nothing more.
    You work hard, but still have plenty of time to hit a message board during the work day.

    And who said the rich used to pay 95%? I said the tax rate under a former president used to be in that range. The fact that it was an incremental rate -- changes the argument not one iota. The same incremental process will be used today -- and so the tax rate on the wealthiest americans (whether your shriveled vagina needs to call it incremental) will be lower under Sanders than it was under Eisenhower.

    So again, in conclusion -- fuck off.

    (but if you want to meet up and compare our balance sheets -- the offer is still open)