Fire Petersen Hire Chip
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No. Willingham was fucking terrible. Get some perspective.ThomasFremont said:
Petersen is fucking terrible. Chipper ran train on the Pac-12.TurdBuffer said:You're right Tommy! What does talent have to do with winning? Cyler Miles was the same as Marcus Mariota, right? Fuck. This is a waste of time.
Doog.
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This one is flooded with doogsRaceBannon said:Time to start new bored.
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You should have quit while you were behind several posts ago. We get it. You think Chip's success was due to Phil Knight, Nike and 9 win Bellotti. Sizzle. You'd rather have the loser who can't even manage a winning conference record with a roster full of draft picks and ranked recruiting classes. We get it. You're such a doog that you don't even know what a doog is.
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It was bound to happen when posters like Harv and Sven got banned and we (WE???!) let in a bunch of doogman refugees.ThomasFremont said:
This one is flooded with doogsRaceBannon said:Time to start new bored.
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TurdBuffer said:
Moronic would be equating what CP took over at BSU versus what CK stepped into at Oregon. Sorry, Nike bought a few more players and facilities than Micron. Quite a few. And CP's BSU still beat them twice with CK as OC then HC at UofO. That's pretty damning against CK, considering the strength of conferences and recruiting. But let's ignore all that and pretend there's proof that CK is, pound for pound, a better coach even though he was given the keys to a Ferrari named Mariota. That's the contention I find absurd and moronic in this thread. You can argue you don't like CP. Fine. But to argue CK is a better coach because he drove a better car, i.e., had more talent? Nope. Doesn't work. BSU never had the talent UofO did.
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Yeah, Polk was great. So were Sankey, Donald Butler, Mason Foster, Kikaha, Shelton, Trufant, Peters, Ta'Amu (in the Holiday Bowl), ASJ, etc. All of those guys were good. UW has had a lot of NFL players and have sucked.TurdBuffer said:@RoadDawg55: The backs I listed were great college-level backs. As the Seahawks have shown, average college players often mature into great NFL players after being so-so in college. One example is Marcel Reece, who's been in the NFL for what, 7 years now? He was middle of the pack to decent in college, but nowhere near great. But he had the size and skills the Raiders were looking for, so he filled a need for a long time, at least until he recently got popped for steroids, but that's a different story. Another example is Chris Polk: Great college player, not doing much in the NFL, but, to his credit, hanging around. You get the point. NFL status today doesn't necessarily mean they were great in college, and vice versa.
I agree that LaMichael James and Barner were very good college RB's. What's your point? Could Chip Kelly not get two backs of that caliber somewhere else?
Chip took his talent, won Pac 12 championships and went to a natty. He won two Pac 12 titles over very good Stanford teams with Andrew Luck. This is one of the dumbest threads, at least for a serious one, in the history of HardcoreHusky. -
@RoadDawg55: The very title of this thread is what strikes me as dumb. Fire CP after 2 years and hire CK if he's available? You honestly think that would be smart? You honestly think he would win more games for UW and that his Oregon experience proves without a doubt that he's a better coach than CP? That same logic landed us Ty Willingham, who stepped into a Stanford program built into a top-tier program by Dennis Green (ignoring the reasons Notre Dame fired him for now), and it's the same logic that said Stanford would suck after losing Harbaugh. It's more than just the HC or the record. We overlooked what a genuine asshole and shitty person Willingham was, and look at the price we paid for buying that he was a "winner at Stanford." (I know the other political shit behind his hiring, but when I say "we" I mean the fanbase in general.) Victory has many fathers and defeat is an orphan. The serious point here is that CK gets too much credit for Oregon's reign atop the Pac12, considering his talent and the arc of the program at the time. Give credit where it's due, but don't ignore the foundation underneath a guy. Oregon did fine this year, almost beating Mich State despite losing Adams, and beat a very good Stanford team at the Farm, without CK, but with Adams at QB. Barring Adams injury, Oregon might be a playoff team this year, again, without CK, and it ain't because Helfort is such a Goddamn great coach. Like you, I'd love to see a new OC, and believe JS's bad decisions are so bad, they outweigh the good ones. As I've written before, if CP can't succeed at UW, I don't know who can in today's environment. But trolling for saviors and heroes is all we've done since Lambright got fired and overall, that's why the program is where it is today.
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Am I being whooshed here? Mods?
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This is such a doog thread. Oregon almost beat MSU and would have beaten WSU if they had a QB!! Oregon had a great year, lots of moral victories.
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No, we? are where we? are today because we? have held on to loser coaches for too long (and run off the only winner).TurdBuffer said:@RoadDawg55: The very title of this thread is what strikes me as dumb. Fire CP after 2 years and hire CK if he's available? You honestly think that would be smart? You honestly think he would win more games for UW and that his Oregon experience proves without a doubt that he's a better coach than CP? That same logic landed us Ty Willingham, who stepped into a Stanford program built into a top-tier program by Dennis Green (ignoring the reasons Notre Dame fired him for now), and it's the same logic that said Stanford would suck after losing Harbaugh. It's more than just the HC or the record. We overlooked what a genuine asshole and shitty person Willingham was, and look at the price we paid for buying that he was a "winner at Stanford." (I know the other political shit behind his hiring, but when I say "we" I mean the fanbase in general.) Victory has many fathers and defeat is an orphan. The serious point here is that CK gets too much credit for Oregon's reign atop the Pac12, considering his talent and the arc of the program at the time. Give credit where it's due, but don't ignore the foundation underneath a guy. Oregon did fine this year, almost beating Mich State despite losing Adams, and beat a very good Stanford team at the Farm, without CK, but with Adams at QB. Barring Adams injury, Oregon might be a playoff team this year, again, without CK, and it ain't because Helfort is such a Goddamn great coach. Like you, I'd love to see a new OC, and believe JS's bad decisions are so bad, they outweigh the good ones. As I've written before, if CP can't succeed at UW, I don't know who can in today's environment. But trolling for saviors and heroes is all we've done since Lambright got fired and overall, that's why the program is where it is today.
Doogs love to hope for change.
