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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Bob_C said:

    Seattle's defense has decimated a total of zero good quarterbacks. HTH

    Aaron Rodgers isn't a good quarterback this year.
    Lol, you're pressing.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,746
    Bob_C said:

    dnc said:

    Bob_C said:

    Seattle's defense has decimated a total of zero good quarterbacks. HTH

    Aaron Rodgers isn't a good quarterback this year.
    Lol, you're pressing.
    12th in passer rating, 17th in passing yards, 24th in completion percentage, 28th in yards per attempt.

    His TD:Int ratio is the only thing he has done well. Otherwise he's mostly sucked. Completing 60.8% of your passes is shit in the modern NFL.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,746
    HuskyInAZ said:

    dnc said:

    Bob_C said:

    Seattle's defense has decimated a total of zero good quarterbacks. HTH

    Aaron Rodgers isn't a good quarterback this year.
    Did he forget how to play the position? He is/was a great QB. But with the condition of their OL, he has no chance.
    The point is the Aaron Rodgers that the Seahawks would hypothetically face in the playoffs isn't the Aaron Rodgers who is a good QB. We can argue the reasons all day long (I think it's more the loss of Nelson with the OL obviously not helping) but it doesn't matter. Facing this Rodgers should scare no one this year.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,543 Founders Club
    One of the Seahawk players tokay said that they took way too long to adjust to the Rams game plan. Which bolsters my theory that losing Dan Quinn and replacing him with Kris Richard has hurt this defense.
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,507 Founders Club
    4 years ago, both rams and cardinals decided that to win the NFC West you had to be as tough/physical as the Hawks and 49ers (back then) were.

    Mission accomplished. If we only played the three teams in our division for 18 games (6 times each for schedule parity) we would finish third in this division and if Harbaugh was still with the 49ers and didn't have York meddling it might be 4th.

    Arizona has been able to carry this over to other teams and their record reflects it. The Rams under Fisher for whatever reason in a typical season will beat us, Arizona, New England, and this years version of Carolina, but then lose 8-10 games vs. the Miami's/Chargers/Jacksonville type teams.

    Anyway, we got our shit shoved in on OL and DL today and that was the diff. along with the three turnovers.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,282 Founders Club
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,808 Standard Supporter

    We are not playing at GB.

    The scenarios where Minnesota moves past Seattle, but does not move past GB, are very few.

    The Seahawks should know their seed prior to kicking off against ARizona.

    If both the Vikings and Seahawks lose next week, it's Seahawks at Packers and Vikings at Redskins.

    GB wins, Seahawks win, it's Vikings at Packers and Seahawks at Skins.

    Vikings win, Seahawks win/lose, Seahawks at Vikings, Packers at Skins.

    With Packers/Vikings being Sunday night you're(?) not going to know your seed when you play. The Cardinals will know though whether they have a chance at the 1 seed.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,746

    It was a shit game all around, but a lot of it was kind of fluky. Seahawks had a fumble returned for 6, the Rams recovered two fumbles on a TD drive. We don't deal in hypotheticals, but that's probably never happening again, at least to that extent.

    The Seahawks really need Lynch. Healthy or not, he will be better than all the RB's now.

    Good point, all 4 fumbles recovered by the Rams, and all 3 reviews went the Rams way. Just one of those 7 things changes and it might be a different game.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    I give them a 1 in 10 shot of making the super bowl. If you assume that the first playoff game is a 55/45 game and the next 2 would be 40/60 games, the true odds would be more like 9%.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,746
    Bob_C said:

    I give them a 1 in 10 shot of making the super bowl. If you assume that the first playoff game is a 55/45 game and the next 2 would be 40/60 games, the true odds would be more like 9%.

    That sounds about right. Considering there are 12 teams in the tourney that's really good odds for a team that has to play three games on the road to get there.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Right now with their health the chances are 0. That's why they need to sit guys next week
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    That's 9% of getting to the Super Bowl against a bracket of six teams not twelve.

    It's probably even slimmerin reality, maybe more like 6% considering a 4 point spread would equate to about a 66% win percentage. I'm assuming here that Seattle is on average a 55% favorite (or 2 points) in round 1, Seattle is around a 4 point underdog to either Carolina or Arizona in both round 2 and 3. For context, Carolina and Arizona has roughly a 33% chance each, assuming they are 66% favorites in the round 2 games and 50/50 against each other.

    Dispute my underlying assumptions all you want, but that's what the math suggests.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,998 Founders Club
    wild card winners

    Very rare yet 3 times since 2000. Including the STEALERS in 2005!!111!!!!
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    I always laugh when thinking back on that Super Bowl 40 season at how crappy the league was that year. The NFC playoff qb's that year were Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Grossman, Chris Simms, Brunell and 2nd year Eli Manning. Pittsburgh as a #6 seed beat Kitna (after Palmer injured in 1st quarter) Peyton Manning and Jake Plummer to get to the Super Bowl and we're basically a unanimous favorite against Seattle as the #1 seed.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Hawks season will end on the same field it did last season.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,943 Founders Club
    HuskyInAZ said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    The Seahawks need to rest their starters next week either way. Right now health is a much bigger issue than seeding

    Not if we're fighting for the 5th seed
    We?
    And what difference does it make. gb and Washington are both the same, neither is terrible nor great
    Disagree

    I'll take the Deadskins 10 out of 10 times
    Did you watch the AZ/GB game today? GB's OL is decimated. Seattle's defense would eat them for lunch.
    I mostly watched the Hawks (in Suckattle at the moment, not AZ). The whole NFC East is terrible and it's less likely to be 4 degrees in DC so weather shouldn't be a big factor. I think they can blow them out similar to 2012.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,432
    Bob_C said:

    I always laugh when thinking back on that Super Bowl 40 season at how crappy the league was that year. The NFC playoff qb's that year were Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Grossman, Chris Simms, Brunell and 2nd year Eli Manning. Pittsburgh as a #6 seed beat Kitna (after Palmer injured in 1st quarter) Peyton Manning and Jake Plummer to get to the Super Bowl and we're basically a unanimous favorite against Seattle as the #1 seed.

    A lot of it is who's hot at the right time. Both years the Giants won the SB with Manning, they weren't best team on the field in at least two of those playoff games, but they were clicking at the right time. Same thing with Pittsburgh in 2005. The NFL still has the best post-season of the BIG 4 sports despite that flaw. Heck, I don't even think it's a flaw. I think all sports should adopt the one and done method in the post-season, or at least shorten their series.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,746

    Bob_C said:

    I always laugh when thinking back on that Super Bowl 40 season at how crappy the league was that year. The NFC playoff qb's that year were Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Grossman, Chris Simms, Brunell and 2nd year Eli Manning. Pittsburgh as a #6 seed beat Kitna (after Palmer injured in 1st quarter) Peyton Manning and Jake Plummer to get to the Super Bowl and we're basically a unanimous favorite against Seattle as the #1 seed.

    A lot of it is who's hot at the right time. Both years the Giants won the SB with Manning, they weren't best team on the field in at least two of those playoff games, but they were clicking at the right time. Same thing with Pittsburgh in 2005. The NFL still has the best post-season of the BIG 4 sports despite that flaw. Heck, I don't even think it's a flaw. I think all sports should adopt the one and done method in the post-season, or at least shorten their series.
    Upvoted until the last sentence. One and done is definitely most entertaining, but doesn't give the best champion. In a sport like football where there are so few regular season games it makes sense. It wouldn't make sense in other sports.
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