another shooting in a gun free zone
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I'd rather keep using tax dollars to help people pay for their malt liquor and McDonalds.
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I EATIG MCDONGALS!!!!!!!! I DRIKNIG CLOT 54!!!!!!!1CuntWaffle said:I'd rather keep using tax dollars to help people pay for their malt liquor and McDonalds.
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Most patients with stable mental illness do not present an increased risk of violence. Asnis, et al.,8 found that 21 of 517 outpatients (4%) in an urban setting reported a history of homicide attempts. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2686644/GrundleStiltzkin said:
No, we(?) can't throw all mentally ill into involuntary commitment. But 18% is a facile number. Of the numbers cited there, I would guess the one that only begins to come close are the 1.1% of the population suffering from schizophrenia. Then, what segment of that population has paranoid or violent tendencies associated with their illness.allpurpleallgold said:https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers
Are you going to throw 18% of Americans in hospitals? Or are you going to pay for 18% of Americans to go to therapy every week? And their meds.
You keep pulling the bullshit Damone trick demanding solutions while throwing generic bullshit about helping the mentally ill. You don't have a solution for that because you have absolutely no facts on it. It's a talking point.
You can do this above the fray bullshit all you like. But the only people falling for it are idiots. You're so logical. Look at Race on the high ground above all others. You're basically the asshole that says he agnostic when asked if you believe in God. It's a bullshit position intended to make you look smarter than everyone else.
Math time!
319,000,000*18% = 60,000,000
60,000,000 * 4% = 2,400,000
2,400,000/319,000,000 = .76 % of the US population would be "mentally ill outpatients" with a possible propensity for homicide.
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Mass shooting are happening more frequently than ever before because of the momentum given to them by the circus media.
For the depressed, deranged, and impressionable folks looking to make an impact, it's the cool thing to do.
Domestic terrorists might be the new hipsters. Radical Islam is so in right now. -
I'm a believer in GOD not an agnostic.allpurpleallgold said:https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers
Are you going to throw 18% of Americans in hospitals? Or are you going to pay for 18% of Americans to go to therapy every week? And their meds.
You keep pulling the bullshit Damone trick demanding solutions while throwing generic bullshit about helping the mentally ill. You don't have a solution for that because you have absolutely no facts on it. It's a talking point.
You can do this above the fray bullshit all you like. But the only people falling for it are idiots. You're so logical. Look at Race on the high ground above all others. You're basically the asshole that says he agnostic when asked if you believe in God. It's a bullshit position intended to make you look smarter than everyone else.
Did I say we need to throw 18% of Americans in a hospital. Another poster gave more accurate numbers.
I'm not the crusader on my high horse saying WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING!!!111!!!
It's not the gun. It's the person behind the gun.
I'm not demanding solutions, again you are reflecting yourself on me. I am pointing out that the solutions you are demanding won't work. If Congress wants to pass "common sense guns laws" whatever the hell that bullshit means, it is fine with me. We'll still have shootings.
By the way how is mental illness a talking point? Aren't these mass shooters mentally ill?
There are all sorts of triggers that get a nut to pull the trigger. How many do you want to get rid of?
I am logical. Sorry that pisses you off. Hope you don't own a gun -
If you don't like gun control, you can just become a criminal and not register your weapon.
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Sorry, that's illegal. Try again.PurpleJ said:If you don't like gun control, you can just become a criminal and not register your weapon.
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Race, are the Jihadi's crazy? or calculated?
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/police-hunt-for-motive-behind-san-bernardino-shooting-1449131982
SAN BERNARDINO, Calif.— Authorities said Thursday that the two suspects who stormed a holiday gathering of county employees on Wednesday, killing 14 people, deployed remote-controlled pipe bombs at the scene and had amassed thousands of rounds of ammunition.
Law-enforcement officials said they were still unsure of what motivated Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, to open fire at the event for county employees while dressed in “assault-style clothing” and armed with semiautomatic weapons.
But at the scene, investigators found three connected pipe bombs set to be detonated by a contraption linked to remote-controlled car. And after catching up to and killing the suspects in a fierce gunbattle hours later on Wednesday, authorities found that they were heavily stocked with ammunition.
“They had over 1,400 .223 caliber rounds and 200 9-millimeter rounds available to them,” San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said Thursday. They had also rented the Ford SUV used in the incident, which had Utah license plates, he said.
At a home in Redlands, Calif., linked to the suspects, law-enforcement officials discovered thousands of additional rounds of ammunition, as well as “12 pipe bomb type devices” and other materials to produce explosives, Mr. Burguan said.
Officials said the death toll remained at 14, but the number of wounded had risen to 21. They said they expected the county coroner to release names of the dead later in the day.
Mr. Farook, a 28-year-old San Bernardino County employee, and Ms. Malik, 27, had left their six-month-old child with Mr. Farook’s mother on the morning of the shooting, law-enforcement officials said. He was a U.S. native born to Pakistani immigrants. She was a Pakistani national who had formerly lived in Saudi Arabia.
David Bowdich, assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Los Angeles office, said Thursday that officials were not ready to declare a motive in the shooting, though they were exploring the possibility that the suspects intended to target additional locations.
“It would be way too early to speculate on motive,” Mr. Bowdich said, but added, “There was obviously a mission here. We do not know why.”
According to people familiar with the probe into the shooting, investigators increasingly suspect Mr. Farook was motivated at least in part by an attraction to international terrorism, an assessment based on the early stages of reviewing his contacts and computer usage. -
I would say calculated but we (?) are not allowed to say that so I didn't say itsarktastic said:Race, are the Jihadi's crazy? or calculated?
