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another shooting in a gun free zone

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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited December 2015
    More people died in Chicago of gun violence, than died in the San Bernardino radical Islamic terrorist attack yesterday... is what I'm hearing.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited December 2015

    Yeah ever hear of the Middle East? We're better than Ty them!

    Speaking of a straw man, how many bills have been introduced to ban guns completely?

    Oh we need more hospitals for the mentally ill. I suppose we'll pay for those with fairy dust and prayers. We sure as shit can't actually raise taxes for it.

    I like to claim to not be stupid enough to fall for a political wedge issue while I'm currently falling for it. I like to do that.

    Other than that, great post.

    Radicalization and extremist rhetoric has inspired and killed more people than ever before, its time to act.

    How about we pass a "common sense" law. Lets call it the Protection of the People and State Acts. This will allow for any officers of the state to take any appropriate measures to remedy dangers to public safety due to irresponsible speech, talk, text or protests.

    The main tenets of the decree shall be as follows;

    1) It shall be unlawful to combine or conspire together to oppose any measure of the government of the United States.

    2) It shall be unlawful to write, print, utter or publish, or cause it to be done, or assist in it, any false, scandalous, and malicious writing against any capacity or officer of the government of the United States.

    Im not proposing anyone take away all of your free speech, so dont twist.

    Or how about we lock some people up in prison just a little bit whenever we feel like it, like just a few hours a day or something. Im not proposing anyone take away all of your freedom of movement. Dont fall for the political wedge though.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    When will the man charged with defending us, acknowledge this Jihad Muslim terrorist attack?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Houhusky said:

    Yeah ever hear of the Middle East? We're better than Ty them!

    Speaking of a straw man, how many bills have been introduced to ban guns completely?

    Oh we need more hospitals for the mentally ill. I suppose we'll pay for those with fairy dust and prayers. We sure as shit can't actually raise taxes for it.

    I like to claim to not be stupid enough to fall for a political wedge issue while I'm currently falling for it. I like to do that.

    Other than that, great post.

    Radicalization and extremist rhetoric has inspired and killed more people than ever before, its time to act.

    How about we pass a "common sense" law. Lets call it the Protection of the People and State Acts. This will allow for any officers of the state to take any appropriate measures to remedy dangers to public safety due to irresponsible speech, talk, text or protests.

    The main tenets of the decree shall be as follows;

    1) It shall be unlawful to combine or conspire together to oppose any measure of the government of the United States.

    2) It shall be unlawful to write, print, utter or publish, or cause it to be done, or assist in it, any false, scandalous, and malicious writing against any capacity or officer of the government of the United States.

    Im not proposing anyone take away all of your free speech, so dont twist.

    Or how about we lock some people up in prison just a little bit whenever we feel like it, like just a few hours a day or something. Im not proposing anyone take away all of your freedom of movement. Dont fall for the political wedge though.
    1. and 2. are fucked up, sorry.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited December 2015

    Houhusky said:

    Yeah ever hear of the Middle East? We're better than Ty them!

    Speaking of a straw man, how many bills have been introduced to ban guns completely?

    Oh we need more hospitals for the mentally ill. I suppose we'll pay for those with fairy dust and prayers. We sure as shit can't actually raise taxes for it.

    I like to claim to not be stupid enough to fall for a political wedge issue while I'm currently falling for it. I like to do that.

    Other than that, great post.

    Radicalization and extremist rhetoric has inspired and killed more people than ever before, its time to act.

    How about we pass a "common sense" law. Lets call it the Protection of the People and State Acts. This will allow for any officers of the state to take any appropriate measures to remedy dangers to public safety due to irresponsible speech, talk, text or protests.

    The main tenets of the decree shall be as follows;

    1) It shall be unlawful to combine or conspire together to oppose any measure of the government of the United States.

    2) It shall be unlawful to write, print, utter or publish, or cause it to be done, or assist in it, any false, scandalous, and malicious writing against any capacity or officer of the government of the United States.

    Im not proposing anyone take away all of your free speech, so dont twist.

    Or how about we lock some people up in prison just a little bit whenever we feel like it, like just a few hours a day or something. Im not proposing anyone take away all of your freedom of movement. Dont fall for the political wedge though.
    1. and 2. are fucked up, sorry.
    But the important thing is to remember no one is saying to take away all of your free speech.

    that was the point, those were actual laws...

    that is what happens when people start to ignore the constitution and make "common sense" laws that only restrict "parts" of peoples freedoms, those were actual fucked up laws that people actually agreed with, that were actually passed.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers

    Are you going to throw 18% of Americans in hospitals? Or are you going to pay for 18% of Americans to go to therapy every week? And their meds.

    You keep pulling the bullshit Damone trick demanding solutions while throwing generic bullshit about helping the mentally ill. You don't have a solution for that because you have absolutely no facts on it. It's a talking point.

    You can do this above the fray bullshit all you like. But the only people falling for it are idiots. You're so logical. Look at Race on the high ground above all others. You're basically the asshole that says he agnostic when asked if you believe in God. It's a bullshit position intended to make you look smarter than everyone else.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    I have a solution. It just wouldn't be considered "humane"
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited December 2015

    https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers

    Are you going to throw 18% of Americans in hospitals? Or are you going to pay for 18% of Americans to go to therapy every week? And their meds.

    You keep pulling the bullshit Damone trick demanding solutions while throwing generic bullshit about helping the mentally ill. You don't have a solution for that because you have absolutely no facts on it. It's a talking point.

    You can do this above the fray bullshit all you like. But the only people falling for it are idiots. You're so logical. Look at Race on the high ground above all others. You're basically the asshole that says he agnostic when asked if you believe in God. It's a bullshit position intended to make you look smarter than everyone else.

    Now you are worried about how to pay for things?!!! #ifitsaves1life
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers

    Are you going to throw 18% of Americans in hospitals? Or are you going to pay for 18% of Americans to go to therapy every week? And their meds.

    You keep pulling the bullshit Damone trick demanding solutions while throwing generic bullshit about helping the mentally ill. You don't have a solution for that because you have absolutely no facts on it. It's a talking point.

    You can do this above the fray bullshit all you like. But the only people falling for it are idiots. You're so logical. Look at Race on the high ground above all others. You're basically the asshole that says he agnostic when asked if you believe in God. It's a bullshit position intended to make you look smarter than everyone else.

    No, we(?) can't throw all mentally ill into involuntary commitment. But 18% is a facile number. Of the numbers cited there, I would guess the one that only begins to come close are the 1.1% of the population suffering from schizophrenia. Then, what segment of that population has paranoid or violent tendencies associated with their illness.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773

    I have a solution. It just wouldn't be considered "humane"

    Is it FINAL?