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Good point.RoadDawg55 said:
Completely agree with the premise, but Saban hires fired coaches all the time. Most assistants get fired at one time or another. Hiring Smith was from Pete's formula. He promotes coaches from within. The difference was Harsin, Wilcox, Kelly Kaposki, etc were actually successful position coaches.Thump said:If Petersen was serious about winning -- he'd have a real OC and a real QB coach in there, and not a retread from Montana.
We also wouldn't have a WR coach that was fired from Florida for sucking ass.
That shit might fly when your team only has 1-2 tough games a year, but it doesn't fly in a power 5 conference.
He needs to seriously step up his game or get the fuck out.
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You could be right. I just feel like it's hard to tell from the data available.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Smith is a Little Sky caliber coordinator. Throw a dart on a map and you could find a better one.
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We have the worst offense in the Pac 12. How much more data do you need?TTJ said:
You could be right. I just feel like it's hard to tell from the data available.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Smith is a Little Sky caliber coordinator. Throw a dart on a map and you could find a better one.
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I used the phrase "plunger rape" in mixed company at the sports club last week while discussing the upcoming Cal-UCLA game. It just slipped out, and it actually got a better reception than I expected.HuskyInAZ said:
Not an attempt to hijack, but thanks to this bored (and our underperforming offense), I've been saying "sucks balls" so much lately, my wife is now saying it. If only she'd do it a little more....Southerndawg said:Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.
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Year three will tell.
In no particular order...
Look, we KNEW Ty was crappy as he had a bad track record and was full of shit.
We knew Neu regressed at Colorado, and was soft.
We knew Guilby was not HC material due to Cal.
We suspected Sark was more self promotion than coach, and time proved us right.
(Of course, Lambo started with great talent and proved himself not capable.)
In each case they weren't improving by year 3 (other than Neu who had a history of starting strong and heading downhill).
Peterman has a good track record. He inherited a soft team with really mixed talent including poor OLinemen.
The concern about him is based more on past Boise fails and that we feel he could be a better game manager.
Year 3 is enough for a coach to prove that he's the guy.
And even if he's the wrong guy, do you really want pool boy picking the coach??
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I frequently reference "bringing out the plunger" in every day life and nobody gets it. Just awkward blank stares.BearsWiin said:
I used the phrase "plunger rape" in mixed company at the sports club last week while discussing the upcoming Cal-UCLA game. It just slipped out, and it actually got a better reception than I expected.HuskyInAZ said:
Not an attempt to hijack, but thanks to this bored (and our underperforming offense), I've been saying "sucks balls" so much lately, my wife is now saying it. If only she'd do it a little more....Southerndawg said:Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.
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Wait until she gets her own balls in there....HuskyInAZ said:
Not an attempt to hijack, but thanks to this bored (and our underperforming offense), I've been saying "sucks balls" so much lately, my wife is now saying it. If only she'd do it a little more....Southerndawg said:Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.
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This. I think.FremontTroll said:
In a community of non-conformists the conformist is the real non-conformist by not conforming with the rejection of the larger community of conformists.RoadDawg55 said:
But you are a conformist. The majority of Husky fans feel the exact same as you.HuskyInAZ said:
I have not started drinking yet. But rest assured, some non-conformist posts are on the way a bit later.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is your best poast in weeks. Possibly months.HuskyInAZ said:
Not an attempt to hijack, but thanks to this bored (and our underperforming offense), I've been saying "sucks balls" so much lately, my wife is now saying it. If only she'd do it a little more....Southerndawg said:Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.
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Are we talking victory coitus?HuskyInAZ said:
Weak sauce. I do not GAF what the majority of Husky fans feel. Maybe I'm a bit weird that way, but I'm certainly not one to follow the crowd for the sake of fitting in. A number on this bored, though, I don't think could honestly say that.RoadDawg55 said:
But you are a conformist. The majority of Husky fans feel the exact same as you.HuskyInAZ said:
I have not started drinking yet. But rest assured, some non-conformist posts are on the way a bit later.Dennis_DeYoung said:
This is your best poast in weeks. Possibly months.HuskyInAZ said:
Not an attempt to hijack, but thanks to this bored (and our underperforming offense), I've been saying "sucks balls" so much lately, my wife is now saying it. If only she'd do it a little more....Southerndawg said:Nothing anyone in here can do about it, but the signs are already pointing to him not being the guy. The team not showing up ready to compete, poor play calling, poor clock management, slow to change. We'll see. The defense and special teams have improved, but his area of expertise is offense and that has sucked balls ever since he took over.
FWIW, my wife just said "sucks balls" again. Maybe I have a shot this afternoon. -
Next year. Next year.
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Pete CarrollRoadDawg55 said:
BUT WHO WOULD YOU HIRE? GIVE ME NAMES!!TTJ said:Still waiting for somebody to name the OC who could turn these lemons into lemonade.
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I mean, technically I said next year twice.ThomasFremont said:
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Thanks for clarification.PurpleJ said:
Your negativity almost made me want to stop posting. -
Can't stand when people demand wins out of a coach, huh?
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I guarantee I hate losing more than anyone here, but let me tell you in roughly 10,000 words why losing in this case is totally justified.PurpleJ said:Can't stand when people demand wins out of a coach, huh?
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Koetter was probably the best and most legit out of the legendary BS coaches. He rarely won against ranked teams...like Peteresen now.
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Don't worry @Mad_Son's got you covered on that.ThomasFremont said:
I guarantee I hate losing more than anyone here, but let me tell you in roughly 10,000 words why losing in this case is totally justified.PurpleJ said:Can't stand when people demand wins out of a coach, huh?
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The knock on Smith (besides stupid play-calls and general results) has been his youth and lack of experience. I thus did a search for the teams with the highest amount of rushing yards per game, removed option teams, and then looked for teams on or close to the West Coast with more experienced play-callers.
Would you go for a young, hot-name OC?RoadDawg55 said:
Is this a whoosh? If not, please never post again. You picked some of the worst possible retreads possible. The guy from New Mexico might be decent. The others suck.HFNY said:How about:
golobos.com/coaches.aspx?rc=81&path=football
Or
unlvrebels.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/barney_cotton_941190.html
Or
goaztecs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jeff_horton_742351.html
Or even going back to the well one more time since Harsin was the best OC Petersen had:
broncosports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/eliah_drinkwitz_881047.htmlTTJ said:Still waiting for somebody to name the OC who could turn these lemons into lemonade.
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Statistically they're pretty bad. I get last year was a transition year and Miles was a pothead weak armed chump, and this year they're young (again), but they can do better. He's not maximizing what talent there is. I know it's cool to throw the ball 55 times a game now, but you have to custom your offense to what works and what personnel you have. I don't feel like they're doing that. It seems like they're going to do it their way come hell or high water, and good coaches adapt.TTJ said:
You could be right. I just feel like it's hard to tell from the data available.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Smith is a Little Sky caliber coordinator. Throw a dart on a map and you could find a better one.
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