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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
    You seem confused.

    Don't ask the question and then pretend like you knew the answer.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    @Tequilla and yet you make excuses for Petersen and Smith every week when any fucking idiot that actually follows college football knows they are fucking up. "We need to make changes, but let me tl,dr every week about how the offensive coaching wasn't that bad..." Every fucking week after a loss. To quote PLSS, "Cut the shit, you sewer cunt!" I'm onto your shit.

    You predicted 12-1 last year. 12-1! And yet you make lame fucking excuses every week. This year you had a post about expectations, why not us, blah, blah, but you are the biggest excuse making doog on this entire board. And it didn't start here. I remember you talking about 2013 being special. All of that belongs at doogman. Here was a place where we prided ourselves on not being moronic, homer doog pieces of shit. Of course we get some shit wrong and are irrational at times, but at least we weren't a poaster like you.

    And take the other doogs back over there with you.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
    You seem confused.

    Don't ask the question and then pretend like you knew the answer.
    Not confused ... guarantee that I hate losing more than anybody on this board.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    PurpleJ said:

    Defense is actually making decent progress, but isn't much more than average at this point.

    What the actual fuck are you talking about?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
    You seem confused.

    Don't ask the question and then pretend like you knew the answer.
    Not confused ... guarantee that I hate losing more than anybody on this board.
    *guarantee* you're going to say the same shit when Wazzu beats us this year.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    edited October 2015
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
    You seem confused.

    Don't ask the question and then pretend like you knew the answer.
    Not confused ... guarantee that I hate losing more than anybody on this board.
    You are clueless. You hate losing so much that you need to write tl,dr bullshit every week we do lose? You did it under Sark too. You've been a poster for a long time.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    @RoadDawg55

    You are the king of cherry picking what I say that fits your narrative.

    You're right, I've said that why not us this year? I also said that I thought that we had the talent to be a 7 or 8 win team this year ... 9 if everything broke right. I was the one saying that there was a lot more talent to this team than what most were willing to buy into when most were crying with the TSIO shit before the season started. Perhaps I've been more right about this season than most.

    As for 12-1 last year, same idea. There was a path to it. Realistic? Maybe ... maybe not.

    I don't set goals or expectations at levels that are easy to reach ... I set them as stretch goals that are difficult to achieve.

    If the definition of being a doog is not panicking after every single fucking loss and wanting to burn the program down as a result ... then I guess I'm guilty as are many others around here.

    If you would have asked me 12 months ago if the voice of reason on the Husky Fan Podcast was going to be @HeretoBeatmyChest I would have never believed it.

    Take a fucking walk and get a perspective ... take a few of your blowhards with you.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    If that is your opinion, what did you ever have against Sark?
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    We were never predicted to win 4 games this year.

    HTH.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    Fuck Vegas, fuck 4 win "expectations", and most of all FUCK YOU.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Following the 4 win mark set by Vegas this year and echoed in seemingly every single preseason prediction that I saw, the expectation was that the talent on this team was somewhere between shitty and overly young. You don't get predictions of 4 wins without some sizable holes on the roster.

    What those that are whining and crying right now about every single loss is doing is looking at the fact that the 3 losses that we've had have been by a grand total of 15 points and looking at that as an indication of how close we are to being 6-0 ... which if we were would absolutely earn Petersen pole position into the Coach of the Year race. Probably also true if he was 5-1.

    But for those carrying the pitchforks, the difference between leading the Coach of the Year race and being a disaster is razor thin.

    I could swear that I heard on a certain podcast before the season that the prediction was that if Petersen was the coach that we thought he was that there's no way that he'd have a losing record this year even though the path to 6 or 7 wins didn't look great and was going to require some stretch. He's on the path to do that and the goal posts are being moved.

    In the unlikely event that UW beats Stanford this weekend, those that have been the loudest this week won't point to the great job by the team or the coaching staff in beating Stanford. Instead, they'll point to some combination of how they blew games earlier in the season to Boise, Cal, and Oregon or how Shaw/Stanford aren't as good as people think (see loss to Northwestern).
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Tequilla said:

    @RoadDawg55

    You are the king of cherry picking what I say that fits your narrative.

    You're right, I've said that why not us this year? I also said that I thought that we had the talent to be a 7 or 8 win team this year ... 9 if everything broke right. I was the one saying that there was a lot more talent to this team than what most were willing to buy into when most were crying with the TSIO shit before the season started. Perhaps I've been more right about this season than most.

    As for 12-1 last year, same idea. There was a path to it. Realistic? Maybe ... maybe not.

    I don't set goals or expectations at levels that are easy to reach ... I set them as stretch goals that are difficult to achieve.

    If the definition of being a doog is not panicking after every single fucking loss and wanting to burn the program down as a result ... then I guess I'm guilty as are many others around here.

    If you would have asked me 12 months ago if the voice of reason on the Husky Fan Podcast was going to be @HeretoBeatmyChest I would have never believed it.

    Take a fucking walk and get a perspective ... take a few of your blowhards with you.

    You haven't been right. The real perspective is that Petersen sucks. He's been a disaster. He'll get plenty of time with this administration, but so far, it couldn't be any worse. Based on your predictions, one would expect you to think the same.
    It is a hard truth but as for actual results on the field it really couldn't be much worse.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Some of us hate losing. That's where the hate comes from. Great coaches and players hate losing more than they love winning

    You don't fucking say?
    You seem confused.

    Don't ask the question and then pretend like you knew the answer.
    Not confused ... guarantee that I hate losing more than anybody on this board.
    You are clueless. You hate losing so much that you need to write tl,dr bullshit every week we do lose? You did it under Sark too. You've been a poster for a long time.
    And normally it takes me about 2 days after a loss to set aside my frustration and write about it from a measured and reasoned basis
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    edited October 2015

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    We were never predicted to win 4 games this year.

    HTH.
    Do a quick google search ... you'll find your proof
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    We were never predicted to win 4 games this year.

    HTH.
    Do a quick google search ... you'll find your proof
    Vegas set a line on the number of awful gambling analogies you're going to make this weekend:

    o2 -250/u2 +200

    Does that mean the bookies are predicting you to only make two dumb fucking gambling posts this weekend?
  • Sundevil76
    Sundevil76 Member Posts: 109

    Freeme, I'm right there with you. We all know Petersen won't get fired. He's an upper campuses wet dream off the field, so we are stuck with him unless he has multiple losing seasons. It's pretty tough to be that shitty in this day and age with the schedules. If he is eventually an 8 win coach (I think that's much more likely than a championship one) he will stay as long as he wants.

    He fucking sucks though and we can talk about youth all we want, but fucktarded coaching has cost us multiple games over the past two seasons. We lost to two mediocre teams at home just this season. Unacceptable. The fact that we have the best defense in the Pac 12 and Petersen's expertise is on the offensive side of the ball makes it even worse.

    Where do you get the "Best Defense in the PAC 12"? Maybe you should wait until the season is over before claiming that title.
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122
    Tequilla deserves a good ol fashioned 41-0 plunger this weekend
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    Now, if you want to be pissed off because Petersen isn't getting MORE out of the team, then go for it. But to act like he's run the program into the ground as a disaster ... then I suggest you go back to the days of having coaches like Gilby and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    If that is your opinion, what did you ever have against Sark?
    He was for Sark until the Arizona St game
  • TyronesGhost
    TyronesGhost Member Posts: 20
    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    You called Tequilla? Let me tell you about failed expectations. I know about failed expectations.


    ---Numero uno (i'm fluent in your tortilla speak)

    You said yourself that Petersen underperformed last year. -1. So he did worse than expected.

    ---Adios Seniors

    We are losing Littleton, Feeney, Clay and Tupou on defense which are all major contributors. We may take a step back this year, and while the defense looks good now..it could be the last bit of talent before we step into an unknown world.

    ---TacoBell#3 Combo

    In 2013 we were #3 in the Pac 12 in recruiting. We're now in the 6-8 range. I don't care about his bs OKG motto or whatever. Bottom line is Petersen won 8 games with Sarks drunk recruiting...if he fails to recruit better than Sark we are hosed. Because if he can't win with top quarter Pac-12 classes for upper classmen. He isn't going to win with middle of the pack classes either. This isn't boise. This is a Power 5.

    So what's he's show me is...

    - He will perform below unbias expectations.
    - We are graduating some of our biggest contributors to Kawasaki's defense this year.
    - He's recruiting lower than what we had when he showed up.

    That all leads me to believe he's going to make us worse than what Sark did.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    You called Tequilla? Let me tell you about failed expectations. I know about failed expectations.


    ---Numero uno (i'm fluent in your tortilla speak)

    You said yourself that Petersen underperformed last year. -1. So he did worse than expected.

    ---Adios Seniors

    We are losing Littleton, Feeney, Clay and Tupou on defense which are all major contributors. We may take a step back this year, and while the defense looks good now..it could be the last bit of talent before we step into an unknown world.

    ---TacoBell#3 Combo

    In 2013 we were #3 in the Pac 12 in recruiting. We're now in the 6-8 range. I don't care about his bs OKG motto or whatever. Bottom line is Petersen won 8 games with Sarks drunk recruiting...if he fails to recruit better than Sark we are hosed. Because if he can't win with top quarter Pac-12 classes for upper classmen. He isn't going to win with middle of the pack classes either. This isn't boise. This is a Power 5.

    So what's he's show me is...

    - He will perform below unbias expectations.
    - We are graduating some of our biggest contributors to Kawasaki's defense this year.
    - He's recruiting lower than what we had when he showed up.

    That all leads me to believe he's going to make us worse than what Sark did.
    Awful analysis.

    Littleton and Feeney are the big losses. Tupou and Clay are just guys who are easily replaceable. Its nice that they are contributing but nobody expected them to theyve just been coached up.

    We lost far more talemt last year and the defense got better. DE/BUCK/OLB is where we have the most CP recruits in the pipeline so somebody will step up.

    You're going to the Sark was a great recruiter well? Why because everybody says so? One of the primary reasons we didn't have depth last year and we are so young this year is because the 2012 class was a total bust filled with Sark washouts. It's already abundantly clear that CP will have a higher hit rate with the 2 and 3* guys.

    There are many areas of concern but recruiting and the defense are not among them.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Tequilla said:

    I tend to be of the opinion that the fuckers in Vegas know what the fuck they are doing ...

    They had UW pegged for 9 wins last year ... we had 8 and pissed away the Arizona game. Bottom line business says Petersen was -1 last year versus unbiased expectations.

    They had UW pegged for 4 wins this year ... we already have 3. It's looking like Petersen will exceed expectations this year.

    and Tyrone running the program. That's what a disaster looks like.

    You called Tequilla? Let me tell you about failed expectations. I know about failed expectations.


    ---Numero uno (i'm fluent in your tortilla speak)

    You said yourself that Petersen underperformed last year. -1. So he did worse than expected.

    ---Adios Seniors

    We are losing Littleton, Feeney, Clay and Tupou on defense which are all major contributors. We may take a step back this year, and while the defense looks good now..it could be the last bit of talent before we step into an unknown world.

    ---TacoBell#3 Combo

    In 2013 we were #3 in the Pac 12 in recruiting. We're now in the 6-8 range. I don't care about his bs OKG motto or whatever. Bottom line is Petersen won 8 games with Sarks drunk recruiting...if he fails to recruit better than Sark we are hosed. Because if he can't win with top quarter Pac-12 classes for upper classmen. He isn't going to win with middle of the pack classes either. This isn't boise. This is a Power 5.

    So what's he's show me is...

    - He will perform below unbias expectations.
    - We are graduating some of our biggest contributors to Kawasaki's defense this year.
    - He's recruiting lower than what we had when he showed up.

    That all leads me to believe he's going to make us worse than what Sark did.
    Awful analysis.

    Littleton and Feeney are the big losses. Tupou and Clay are just guys who are easily replaceable. Its nice that they are contributing but nobody expected them to theyve just been coached up.

    We lost far more talemt last year and the defense got better. DE/BUCK/OLB is where we have the most CP recruits in the pipeline so somebody will step up.

    You're going to the Sark was a great recruiter well? Why because everybody says so? One of the primary reasons we didn't have depth last year and we are so young this year is because the 2012 class was a total bust filled with Sark washouts. It's already abundantly clear that CP will have a higher hit rate with the 2 and 3* guys.

    There are many areas of concern but recruiting and the defense are not among them.
    Basically my exact thoughts as well. For me all my concerns are on offense, which is not good at all.

    The defense is sound and being well coached, it is sustainable as evidenced by getting better after losing the top end talent they lost last year. Plus, the recruiting on defense is going very well.

    The offense and everything about it is my main and (quite, honestly) only major concern right now. Recruiting does matter, but evaluation and development are what truly matter. Sark "recruited" well by stars, but his evaluation, especially on offense was pure shit. Couple that with losing 50% of a class within 2 years of entering school and you are fucked.