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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    UW wins this game rather easily...
  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,386 Founders Club
    Winner will have somewhere between 33-38 pts. The loserLooser will have between 20-27 pts.
  • FrankBear21
    FrankBear21 Member Posts: 31
    What's the consensus on Washington? Do you guys think you are better or worse than last year?
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club

    What's the consensus on Washington? Do you guys think you are better or worse than last year?

    Really hard to say after 3 scrimmages...
  • SpoogeDawg
    SpoogeDawg Member Posts: 379

    What's the consensus on Washington? Do you guys think you are better or worse than last year?

    Your trolling right? We are in the North so we suck every year. Until we join the south we are bad because the south is tuff. Outside of Shaq as a RB our O sucked with no QB. We had 4-5 great players on D that had holes and depth issues in the back end. Peters had trust issues and we had two stud db's that came along as the season went on.

    I expect a good game and your D looks like our O last year and we still won at your place. We win rather easy, 34-17?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    HFNY said:

    I think it opened at 2 or 2.5 and now it's Washington +4.5



    Maybe the sharps will come in at the end of the week and push it down to UW +3.


    The one thing the betting public tends to over-value is a high powered offense. And Cal (ranked too high) has managed to throw some points up on the board so far this year.

    If the line keeps moving I'd like to lock in a bet sometime Thursday. If the line pushes again in the same direction like the BSU game, I'll probably double down. If the sharps move it back, I'll be happy I locked in.
  • FrankBear21
    FrankBear21 Member Posts: 31
    What will be interesting is how your D does bs an offense that actually can be considered at least average. (Not trying to troll but it is true)

    Our defense looked bad against Texas, but if you don't have a mobile QB, then it is a lot easier for us to defend.

    They were sending 3 people deep through our shallow zone with the last being a wheel route. It was uncovered because we were worried about the QB running. They got a couple open receptions off it, so we switched coverage and didn't have CBs in the flats anymore. This allowed Heard to run, and he was just too fast for us.

    Bottom line is that not many teams have a QB like that who can exploit our weakness.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    HFNY said:

    @Tequilla's pick of 27-24 was exactly what I was thinking.

    Now I'm really looking forward to the O / U coming out. I'd guess it will be 66 with the under being enticing.

    Last I checked the line was 61 I think.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,334

    What will be interesting is how your D does bs an offense that actually can be considered at least average. (Not trying to troll but it is true)

    Our defense looked bad against Texas, but if you don't have a mobile QB, then it is a lot easier for us to defend.

    They were sending 3 people deep through our shallow zone with the last being a wheel route. It was uncovered because we were worried about the QB running. They got a couple open receptions off it, so we switched coverage and didn't have CBs in the flats anymore. This allowed Heard to run, and he was just too fast for us.

    Bottom line is that not many teams have a QB like that who can exploit our weakness.

    Your defense sucks.

  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,334

    What will be interesting is how your D does bs an offense that actually can be considered at least average. (Not trying to troll but it is true)

    Our defense looked bad against Texas, but if you don't have a mobile QB, then it is a lot easier for us to defend.

    They were sending 3 people deep through our shallow zone with the last being a wheel route. It was uncovered because we were worried about the QB running. They got a couple open receptions off it, so we switched coverage and didn't have CBs in the flats anymore. This allowed Heard to run, and he was just too fast for us.

    Bottom line is that not many teams have a QB like that who can exploit our weakness.

    You mean like Cyler Miles?

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    If Cal struggled to contain Texas's QB, that speaks more to me about the team speed of Cal than anything about Texas's QB having wheels (and he does).

    What does that mean for UW?

    Browning clearly isn't going to take off and run for 100 yards. But what we saw this weekend with his ability to manipulate the pocket with his footwork should continue. Moreover, there could be opportunities in the passing game with drags and throws to the flat where we get guys out in space. and let them run around a slower Cal team. It would not be surprising to see Washington get another big play in the passing game this week.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited September 2015

    What will be interesting is how your D does bs an offense that actually can be considered at least average. (Not trying to troll but it is true)

    Our defense looked bad against Texas, but if you don't have a mobile QB, then it is a lot easier for us to defend.

    They were sending 3 people deep through our shallow zone with the last being a wheel route. It was uncovered because we were worried about the QB running. They got a couple open receptions off it, so we switched coverage and didn't have CBs in the flats anymore. This allowed Heard to run, and he was just too fast for us.

    Bottom line is that not many teams have a QB like that who can exploit our weakness.

    Stick to academis* smack-talk.

    Whatever you just spewed from your thumbs is garbage football analysis on par with Kim Grinolds.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Cal gave up 21 (-1) points in the 4th quarter.

    Looks like Sonny Dykes will be working on the team's ability to #Finish this week
  • FrankBear21
    FrankBear21 Member Posts: 31
    The difference is whether he can out run LBs and DEs. Browning can't beat angles like Heard can. That's a huge difference and is what allowed Texas to move the ball.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Cal football "fans" are the best
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    The difference is whether he can out run LBs and DEs. Browning can't beat angles like Heard can. That's a huge difference and is what allowed Texas to move the ball.

    So Cal's Achilles heel is a team with Mike Vick at QB. If the other team doesn't have Mike Vick, Cal's defense will hold rather easily.

    Got it.
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479

    The difference is whether he can out run LBs and DEs. Browning can't beat angles like Heard can. That's a huge difference and is what allowed Texas to move the ball.

    He doesn't need to, he just needs to move around until a WR comes open.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    So the only thing tha

    The difference is whether he can out run LBs and DEs. Browning can't beat angles like Heard can. That's a huge difference and is what allowed Texas to move the ball.

    Cal's defense may be improved but thats because it was humanly impossible for it to get any worse.

    You've played the 150th rated strength of schedule according to Sagarin. UW's is 89. Your schedule is the 3rd worst in the conference.

    Your defense is 11th in the pac-12 in yards per play. 12th in rushing D and 5th in pass efficiency D, buttressed by some interceptions against Grambling St, who is #212 in Sagarin. Oh and San Diego St just lost to South Alabama who is #141. Your D has also given up the most plays over 20, 30 and 40 yards and the has the least amount of fumbles forced. Positives are sacks, tfl's and interceptions. Maybe the DL is getting some pressure.

    Texas' Offense gained 167 vs. ND then 277 vs Rice, then 650 against Cal.

    The Cal D is bad and certainly much worse than Utah St's. The difference is Cal has a much better offense than Utah St.
    Basically, this.

    If their defense is so improved why are they still ranked so shitty in every single category.

    With the schedule they have faced they should be EASILY in the top half of the conference in defensive categories. And that INCLUDES Texas who is an offensive dumpster fire.

    It will be a tuff game because their offense is legit, but UW can win because our defense is good enough to at least slow Cal down sometimes and our offense can probably look better against the 2nd worst defense UW has seen so far.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited September 2015

    AZDuck said:

    Vermeil's best record at UCLA was 9-2-1 with a Rose Bowel win. That's good.

    Donahue with 10-1-1 in 1982 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 9-2-1 in 1985 (and won the Rose Bowl)
    He also went 10-2 in 1988 (and won the Cotton Bowl)

    The old man name you might be looking for is Henry Sanders, who went 66-19-1 over 8 years, invented the UCLA uniforms as we used to know them before Adidas fucked them up this year, and was responsible for UCLA's only Heisman winner and national championship

    Henry Red Sandeds also was found dead from a heart attack in a motel with prostitute a few years after he won a NATTY. You should have read the full Wikipedia Page. F for effort, fag.

    Donahue was mediocre. Most broon fans view him as a slightly more than 'okay'. In the 80s and 90s UCLA/SC/UW all took turns dominating the conference, the difference between Donahue and Don James is TD never made it to a natty with Troy Aikman. Those teams were loaded top to bottom. Also his down years in between QBs usually got real bad. His teams were also very conservative.
    Terry Donahue was,is and will be the best coach the bRuins will ever have. Brooins want to fondle Jim Moras ballbag for beating Lame and Cutty sarks fraudulent Trojans. But Mora will never have a one loss season nor win a major bowel. Let alone a handful of them.

    This argument is about as fuckin savvy as the Coogs who don't want Mike Price in the Cougar HoF... just yet. Nobodys taking the Cougs to 2 Rose bowls in 5 years again either.

    Cook that shit!
  • droski
    droski Member Posts: 106



    The defense does suck and Browning is mobile, so that doesn't give me much confidence in the pick, except for the white helmets.

    he's run for a total of -6 yards this season. . .
  • droski
    droski Member Posts: 106
    Tequilla said:

    Goff's a good QB but I'm not sure that I'd say that they really push the ball down the field much.

    yeah it's a real weakness. . .

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/22/jared-goffs-arm-makes-cal-a-contender/

    Through the first three weeks of the season, he has thrown just three incompletions from the 17 passes travelling 20 yards or more through the air, with his 14 completions going for 447 yards and two touchdowns. That gives him a nation-leading accuracy percentage of 82.4 percent going deep—not bad when you consider just three quarterbacks are above the 60 percent mark.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    I need to hear from Bearswiin
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I need to hear from Boorswiin

    FTFY