With Sark being the consensus favorite to win pac12..
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I'm glad you are finally seeing the light.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and a s e nior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL
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What you thing Thomas, J?
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SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that. -
Oh the irony.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
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It would be wrong to send a bottle of that to the USC Football Operations building congratulating them on their great Holiday Bowl victory from their friends in Seattle ... just wrong I tell you.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Oh the irony.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that. -
Who makes up this fucktarded 'consensus?'puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
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PLSS, PLSS' brother, and FRANNY.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Who makes up this fucktarded 'consensus?'puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
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Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
And you have another car to wipe down at the car wash. Hop to...oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks).
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What does that have to do with anything? And only Pete's one year at Washington. Pete at Boise is superior to Slingblade so faroregonblitzkrieg said:
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
Boise is the key word here.RaceBannon said:
What does that have to do with anything? And only Pete's one year at Washington. Pete at Boise is superior to Slingblade so faroregonblitzkrieg said:
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
I pump gas. Get your shit together.BallSacked said:
And you have another car to wipe down at the car wash. Hop to...oregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
You are very confusing, or stupid, or smart. Either way, interesting.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Boise is the key word here.RaceBannon said:
What does that have to do with anything? And only Pete's one year at Washington. Pete at Boise is superior to Slingblade so faroregonblitzkrieg said:
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
This is one time I'm positive it's not abundanceCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
You are very confusing, or stupid, or smart. Either way, interesting.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Boise is the key word here.RaceBannon said:
What does that have to do with anything? And only Pete's one year at Washington. Pete at Boise is superior to Slingblade so faroregonblitzkrieg said:
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
Let's be honest, if you are betting against Duck + Smart in the same sentence, you'll win at least an 81% of the time clip.BallSacked said:
This is one time I'm positive it's not abundanceCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
You are very confusing, or stupid, or smart. Either way, interesting.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Boise is the key word here.RaceBannon said:
What does that have to do with anything? And only Pete's one year at Washington. Pete at Boise is superior to Slingblade so faroregonblitzkrieg said:
Slingblade >>>>>> Peet at this point in time.RaceBannon said:
You have Slingbladeoregonblitzkrieg said:
You have Jim Mora. HTH.BallSacked said:Pac12 will have a slew of top10-25 level 'good' teams but no top 10 level great teams. I actually think Cal and Colorado will start winning more games and become bowel elligible (15 extra practices!1!1!!!).
Coogs and Beavs are probably terrible, entire conference runs a train on them. I think Utah makes a major slip this year.
Oregon or Stanford in North. Both are 10-2 MAX type teams.
Any of the 4 LA/AZ schools could win the south, doubt it's Sark - hell fuck it up with that defense. I'm going to be a homer and pick UCLA to take the south (new QB, but 18 returning starters and bruins get beavs while SC/ASU get the ducks). -
Sark is going to Sark. Stanford is probably the favorite for me. One of the Zona schools will probably emerge somehow to represent the south. USC does have some incredible talent though, I pray it's not a Ron Zook to Urban Meyer transition once Siete gets canned.
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Boob, callege football is cyclical, it also changes year-to-year. Pac12 was the best this year top to bottom. Next year not so much. Dipshits like you try to draw overall and long-term conclusions based on one year, 2 years.. Not how it works. WTF boobies? Pull the head from your flappy giner and think be f ore you queef. Fuck It gets tiresome.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I'm glad you are finally seeing the light.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and a s e nior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL
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Good post doogles. See Boob, learn about the sport before you post.
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Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
Utah has a senior qb returning. Can they duplicate defensively to give Travis Wilson a chance? Can they replace Booker at tb? Dres Anderson (not sure if he gets another year)?, who replaces Mannion? Hundley? Mariota? Is this Cal's year with a gunslinging true Jr in Goff?
I just picked a few examples of how you bring chips to the table to make a debate . Saying Sark is too busy picking up waitress's, or USC will implode because of Seven is bullshit. Look at who's coming back. Kessler is prolly the most seasoned senior QB in the country. And the talent around him is comparable to any team in the country, compared to any SEC team going into next year. Can Sark replace Leonard Williams, Nelson Agholor? The seniors on the oline?
See im not just jumping on USC's wagon. Im looking at other pac12 teams and deducing USC has a great chance comparitively.
Who's going to challenge them Teqilla? What's your opinion on that? How do you see it?
And Thomas your pitiful one-liners wont apply here. Care to get involved in an actual football discussion? Isnt that why youre here? Try just once. *yawn* is what I expect. -
On offense I think this will actually be one of the lesser talented SC teams in awhile. In years past they had Robert Woods/Marquise Lee or Lee/Agholor or Agholor/Juju, now with Agholor and Farmer gone, it's Juju (who is not on Woods, Lee, Agholor level) and...? Buck Allen is gone, Justin Davis came in with a big reputation but hasn't shown much, that's a step back from the past 3 years at RB & WR. TE should be solid with return of Cope-Fitzpatrick and Bryce Dixon.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
Utah has a senior qb returning. Can they duplicate defensively to give Travis Wilson a chance? Can they replace Booker at tb? Dres Anderson (not sure if he gets another year)?
I just picked one example of how you bring chips to the table to make a debate . Saying Sark is too busy picking up waitress's, or USC will implode because of Seven is bullshit. Look at who's coming back. Kessler is prolly the most seasoned senior QB in the country. And the talent around him is comparable to any team in the country, compared to any SEC team going into next year. Can Sark replace Leonarx Williams, Nelson Agholor? The seniors on the oline?
See im not just jumping on USC's wagon. Im looking at other pac12 teams and deducing USC has a great chance comparitively.
Who's going to challenge them Teqilla? What's your opinion on that? How do you see it?
On OL - they'll be better, but still start three true sophs and Banner, who sucks. Plus their OL coach followed Harbaugh to UM. Kessler is a better version of Keith Price. Their offense will be good, and it will look great vs shitty teams inflating the hype. Before crashing to earth vs competent teams. Sound vaguely familiar?
On defense their front 7 will be the biggest weakness. But their two corners - Adoree and Iman Marshall will be a formidable corner combo for the next 2-3 years. When it's all said and done they may be one of the best cover duos in the pac10/12 history. Those two may allow SC to get very risky and hide some of their issues upfront.
Finally Schedule - theyve benefitted from having beavs/Coogs the past two years, no longer...they ditch those two for ducks/huskies. Big upgrade, plus Stanford is way overdue against SC.
SC will be a preseason top 4 team, but finish 8-4 because their Defense is weak upfront, offense slightly overrated, schedule much tougher and Sark will Sark. I think UCLA and Arizona are more likely to win the south.
This is the beginning of the end for Sarks head coaching career.
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Can someone post that picture of Sark lying down on the sofa with that high expression on his face? I can't seem to find it.
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Why would I waste my time talking football with a retard like you?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
Utah has a senior qb returning. Can they duplicate defensively to give Travis Wilson a chance? Can they replace Booker at tb? Dres Anderson (not sure if he gets another year)?, who replaces Mannion? Hundley? Mariota? Is this Cal's year with a gunslinging true Jr in Goff?
I just picked a few examples of how you bring chips to the table to make a debate . Saying Sark is too busy picking up waitress's, or USC will implode because of Seven is bullshit. Look at who's coming back. Kessler is prolly the most seasoned senior QB in the country. And the talent around him is comparable to any team in the country, compared to any SEC team going into next year. Can Sark replace Leonard Williams, Nelson Agholor? The seniors on the oline?
See im not just jumping on USC's wagon. Im looking at other pac12 teams and deducing USC has a great chance comparitively.
Who's going to challenge them Teqilla? What's your opinion on that? How do you see it?
And Thomas your pitiful one-liners wont apply here. Care to get involved in an actual football discussion? Isnt that why youre here? Try just once. *yawn* is what I expect.
I'd go to Doogman if I wanted your take.
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PL_SS:puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
Utah has a senior qb returning. Can they duplicate defensively to give Travis Wilson a chance? Can they replace Booker at tb? Dres Anderson (not sure if he gets another year)?, who replaces Mannion? Hundley? Mariota? Is this Cal's year with a gunslinging true Jr in Goff?
I just picked a few examples of how you bring chips to the table to make a debate . Saying Sark is too busy picking up waitress's, or USC will implode because of Seven is bullshit. Look at who's coming back. Kessler is prolly the most seasoned senior QB in the country. And the talent around him is comparable to any team in the country, compared to any SEC team going into next year. Can Sark replace Leonard Williams, Nelson Agholor? The seniors on the oline?
See im not just jumping on USC's wagon. Im looking at other pac12 teams and deducing USC has a great chance comparitively.
Who's going to challenge them Teqilla? What's your opinion on that? How do you see it?
And Thomas your pitiful one-liners wont apply here. Care to get involved in an actual football discussion? Isnt that why youre here? Try just once. *yawn* is what I expect.
If you are going to call people out for not bringing enough to the table I expect you to at least get half of your facts right...
Booker is coming back to Utah, he announced a few days ago.
Dres Anderson is done at Utah, if you are an expert like you claim, you should know that.
There were no seniors on USC's oline this year getting significant time. Banner, Toa, Tuerk, Talamaivaoaoa, Mama, Rodgers, Simmons were their main guys. In fact, they only had one senior olineman (Aundrey Walker) who barely played.
Get your shit together man.
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But how is PLSS a fucking retard?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
PL_SS:puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that.
Utah has a senior qb returning. Can they duplicate defensively to give Travis Wilson a chance? Can they replace Booker at tb? Dres Anderson (not sure if he gets another year)?, who replaces Mannion? Hundley? Mariota? Is this Cal's year with a gunslinging true Jr in Goff?
I just picked a few examples of how you bring chips to the table to make a debate . Saying Sark is too busy picking up waitress's, or USC will implode because of Seven is bullshit. Look at who's coming back. Kessler is prolly the most seasoned senior QB in the country. And the talent around him is comparable to any team in the country, compared to any SEC team going into next year. Can Sark replace Leonard Williams, Nelson Agholor? The seniors on the oline?
See im not just jumping on USC's wagon. Im looking at other pac12 teams and deducing USC has a great chance comparitively.
Who's going to challenge them Teqilla? What's your opinion on that? How do you see it?
And Thomas your pitiful one-liners wont apply here. Care to get involved in an actual football discussion? Isnt that why youre here? Try just once. *yawn* is what I expect.
If you are going to call people out for not bringing enough to the table I expect you to at least get half of your facts right...
Booker is coming back to Utah, he announced a few days ago.
Dres Anderson is done at Utah, if you are an expert like you claim, you should know that.
There were no seniors on USC's oline this year getting significant time. Banner, Toa, Tuerk, Talamaivaoaoa, Mama, Rodgers, Simmons were their main guys. In fact, they only had one senior olineman (Aundrey Walker) who barely played.
Get your shit together man. -
In the North, it's a two horse race between Stanford and Oregon. Stanford has to replace some guys on defense, but their offense will be a lot better. They had a down year and lost some close games, but they are still a good team.
Oregon will be good. Whether they win 8 or 11 depends on their QB. Their secondary needs to be replaced, but their front 7 should be improved.
In the South, I think UCLA, ASU, and USC are the teams. UCLA has a lot of good returners, but big questions at QB. Will their defense actually play how they are capable? Mora's scheme sucks and he's the defensive version of Sark.
ASU loses Strong, but has really good RB's. The defense was young last year and should be better with experience. I'm still not sold on Bercovici though. I don't think he's a championship QB. I'm sure @Sundevil76 thinks they are winning the natty next year.
USC has the talent, but Sark is Sark. Teams don't typically lose their best RB, WR, and defensive player and get better. It's easy to spot some losses when looking at their schedule. I think they lose at least 3. If the rest of the conference is a dreckfest, maybe they can sneak in the title game, but I doubt it. -
USC isn't the premiere program that everyone is looking to knock off. They are middle of the pack shit. HTH.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Thanks for stating the obvious Teqilla. I was looking for someone who actually watches conference play, knows about the quality teams going into next year, who can bring an opinion on who might challenge USC.Tequilla said:
SC's real competition is Seven ...puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who might challenge him. I see the pac12 as pitiful next year. Stanford and senior Kevin Hogan are their only real competition. Maybe Zona,Oregon...maybe CAL?
It's not that fucking hard to see that. -
Elite corner play is a huge boon to your front 7. Jackson and Marshall will allow Wilcox to play more men closer to the line, which theoretically, should mask some of their inexperience up front. As much as we like to trash Siete, Keith Heyward is a solid db coach and will get the most out of his secondary.
