Elite Coaches of the BCS Era (1998-2014) and Year 2

sarktastic

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

Muttzen

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

The first part is correct, I have no idea if he is the guy. This season will tell us a lot. If we have a really bad record (say, 3-6 in the pac), that is highly indicative that he is not the guy. Nothing fancy, I'm not trying to go out on a limb here, just trying to be correct.

RaceBannon

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

sarktastic

Muttzen said:

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

The first part is correct, I have no idea if he is the guy. This season will tell us a lot. If we have a really bad record (say, 3-6 in the pac), that is highly indicative that he is not the guy. Nothing fancy, I'm not trying to go out on a limb here, just trying to be correct.

So, you'll quit just like all the 12's do. Isn't that what I said?

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

Wikipedia and the Pac-12 are my sources. What are yours?



http://pac-12.com/sport/football/standings

Muttzen

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

The first part is correct, I have no idea if he is the guy. This season will tell us a lot. If we have a really bad record (say, 3-6 in the pac), that is highly indicative that he is not the guy. Nothing fancy, I'm not trying to go out on a limb here, just trying to be correct.

So, you'll quit just like all the 12's do. Isn't that what I said?

No... I managed to survive through Gilby, Owen 12, and Sark so I'm sure I can keep on truckin.

Southerndawg

Muttzen said:

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

The first part is correct, I have no idea if he is the guy. This season will tell us a lot. If we have a really bad record (say, 3-6 in the pac), that is highly indicative that he is not the guy. Nothing fancy, I'm not trying to go out on a limb here, just trying to be correct.

Agree with this. I was very disappointed this season, expected better, especially by the time the bowl game rolled around, but willing to LIPO for three years. That said, they should be moving forward not backward, this season will be telling, and it's full on torches and pitchforks in year three if this crap carries over that long.

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

Wikipedia and the Pac-12 are my sources. What are yours?



http://pac-12.com/sport/football/standings

Right

Quooks gonna quook

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

Wikipedia and the Pac-12 are my sources. What are yours?



http://pac-12.com/sport/football/standings

Right

Quooks gonna quook

Bullshit. I'm playing by the rules as they are.

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

Wikipedia and the Pac-12 are my sources. What are yours?



http://pac-12.com/sport/football/standings

Right

Quooks gonna quook

Bullshit. I'm playing by the rules as they are.

But Stanford played i the conference championship where the North division winner plays

Doogles

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

Helfrich did not finish first in the north his first year. Stanford did and won the Pac 12

Wikipedia and the Pac-12 are my sources. What are yours?



http://pac-12.com/sport/football/standings

Right

Quooks gonna quook

Bullshit. I'm playing by the rules as they are.

AZ, don't do this to yourself.

sarktastic

Southerndawg said:

Muttzen said:

sarktastic said:

Muttzen said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Houhusky said:

Unofficial next years prediction:
official more accurate prediction will be posted closer to the season start

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - W

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - L
Arizona - L
Utah - L
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

No Bowl Game
conference: 3-6
Overall: 5-7

finish 10th in the conference ahead of Colorado and WSU

If it plays out that way, Peterman should be fired Lane Kiffin style on the Sea-Tac tarmac.

If it is that bad, he is not the guy.

Here's what I'm hoping for

Spring Football Game (Off Season National Champion) - Tie (USC)

@ Boise State (thurs) - L
Sacramento State - W
Utah State - W
Cal - W
BYE week
@ USC (thurs) - L
Oregon - L
@ Stanford - W
Arizona - W
Utah - W
@‌ ASU - L
@‌ OSU - W
WSU - W

conference: 6-3

What you're really saying is... you have no clue whether Peterman is the "guy" or not... whatever the fuck that means... but if we struggle this year, regardless of reason, you'll quit just like all the 12's in Seattle do.

The first part is correct, I have no idea if he is the guy. This season will tell us a lot. If we have a really bad record (say, 3-6 in the pac), that is highly indicative that he is not the guy. Nothing fancy, I'm not trying to go out on a limb here, just trying to be correct.

Agree with this. I was very disappointed this season, expected better, especially by the time the bowl game rolled around, but willing to LIPO for three years. That said, they should be moving forward not backward, this season will be telling, and it's full on torches and pitchforks in year three if this crap carries over that long.

You expected better because you believed Sark that in Year 6, Miley was a championship caliber QB, Kasen Williams is an NFL receiver, Peters wasn't bat shit crazy and could be trusted, Sankey wouldn't be missed... etc... etc...

AZDuck

I'm just trying to get a handle on the rules around here.

If we're accepting Todd Turner-Helms Association nattys, then pretty much anything goes as far as I'm concerned.

But on a more substantive note - Helfrich and Shaw are 1-1 and each one has one Rose Bowl trophy. Shaw's had four tries, Helfrich has 2.

Helf > Shaw (already)

RaceBannon

I make the rules around here

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

I make the rules around here

TierbsHsotBoobs

AZDuck said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

RaceBannon said:

We need to see real results this year and a North division title year 3 or we have the wrong guy

Again

Oregon is in your division. lol.

David Fucking Shaw has more North division titles than Mark Helfrich does.

Case closed.

Doog.

Shaw has one Rose Bowl trophy (with one loss) in four years. Helfrich has one Rose BowlPasadena Semifinal trophy (no losses) in two.

Helfrich has finished 1st in the North both years he has been head coach.

Helfrich:



Shaw:

Obligatory correction.

Also, if Helfrich finished first in the North in 2013, why did Stanford go to the Rose Bowl?

AZDuck

"Note: Head-to-head results are only used at the end of the season to determine who participates in the Pac-12 Championship Game."

ThomasFremont

AZDuck said:

"Note: Head-to-head results are only used at the end of the season to determine who represents the division in the Pac-12 Championship Game."

Shoulda had a senior at QB, bruh.

TierbsHsotBoobs

AZDuck said:

"Note: Head-to-head results are only used at the end of the season to determine who participates in the Pac-12 Championship Game."

Yep. Stanford won the Pac-12 North.

Thanks for the confirmation.

AZDuck

Sophist.