Elite Coaches of the BCS Era (1998-2014) and Year 2
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How can we beat Drew Brees in the Rose Bowl with 4 freshmen and redshirt freshmen in the defensive backfield?
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Akbar wasn't a freshmanRaceBannon said:How can we beat Drew Brees in the Rose Bowl with 4 freshmen and redshirt freshmen in the defensive backfield?
. We also had Tui, a great running game, and Purdue's defense sucked. And Bleenor's buddy Joe Tiller was their coach. -
We played a nickel
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For me it boils down to this - I can't say I think Petersen is the guy and that the season is over and we're still the year after next year's team. If he can't develop and recruit we don't want him anyway. I think the 2015 season is real and it should show us far better than the dreck we saw this year. If not, then the year after next probably won't be special anyway
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Case closed.RaceBannon said:For me it boils down to this - I can't say I think Petersen is the guy and that the season is over and we're still the year after next year's team. If he can't develop and recruit we don't want him anyway. I think the 2015 season is real and it should show us far better than the dreck we saw this year. If not, then the year after next probably won't be special anyway
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This is some nice RahRah locker room gang bang dick sucking cheerleader bullshitDennis_DeYoung said:I don't understand the narrative that talent wins games. I know everyone hates Romar (except for me), but one of the doogliest doogy things I've ever heard was 3F saying that Romar inherited a ton of talent...
Uh, all those guys SUCKED until Romar was the coach.
That's what happens under good coaches, mysteriously, the talent looks a lot better.
If you think Boise had 'a ton of talent' you aren't thinking about it right. Everyone has a 'ton of talent' if Boise had a 'ton of talent'. It's just that under CP Boise's players developed to their ceiling.
Like, I don't know, how, say Danny Shelton, Hau'oli Kikahahahahaha, Shaq and others did this season.
If you don't think other people are going to step up next year in a similar way you don't understand the talent/coaching equation.
On this bored we are arguing that talent>coaching? ON THIS FUCKING BORED?!?!?!?
Fucking Doog police should come shoot everyone saying we don't have enough talent to win next year.
FMFYFE.
Coaching can overcome opponents talent, opponents talent can overcome coaching
It takes fucking both to consistently win in this dreckfest Pac12.
It takes years of top tier development to take a guy who didnt get any other offers to play in the pac12 because he sucks and turn him into a valuable starter. Not to mention you are relying on Petermen to develop players whose potential was evaluated by fucking Sark.
Its ok though... I bet all the players are staying this summer to work out, the QBs are putting together 7 on 7 drills every afternoon, every player has talked about the difference between this year and last year, the 17mph treadmills are being warn out and chocolate milk is in high demand.
Next year the raw talent will be worse, the coaching will be the same
UW may improve more than the other pac12 teams during the offseason (closing the gap, doog hopefulness not based in reality or past results) in the future but it wont be enough to overcome the massive gap in talent at nearly every position on the offensive side of the ball and the top players lost on defense this year
Since the only thing that matters is coaching, shouldn't Petermom have been able to overcome the piss talent Sark left last season? -
I think Mickens and Littleton could start for most Pac-12 teams TBH. Both have started a bunch of games and been pretty productive (Littleton was more productive in 2013 as a "Rush" end but he's still pretty good).
Tugunga is a JAG but at least he's going to be a RS-SR and has started some games in 2014.
The OL may not be a dreckfest in 2015, especially if McGary doesn't make us forget about Hatchie. Charles is back at LG as a RS-SR and Coleman Shelton should be an upgrade over his RS-Frosh self and Hatchie.
Criste at C was a JAG and Tanigawa (post two ACL surgeries) ended up being a JAG too.
LT: McGary (step back)
LG: RS-SR Dexter Charles (step forward...improvement based off of experience and will probably start more games in 2015)
C: JAG (treading mediocre water...with Tufunga or first year starter in RS-Soph Crane)
RG: JAG (treading mediocre water...Tufunga, RS-JR Brostek, or first year starter in RS-Soph Kirkland or RS-Frosh Sosebee)
RT: RS-Soph Coleman Shelton (step forward...better than his 2014 self and has to be better than Atoe, who the NFL still views as a top 5 pick).
Maybe I'm selling Criste and Tanigawa short but with another year of Strausser and Socha (and getting Ivan up for a few team-building hotdog contests!!1!@!), I can't imagine that the OL will be worse as a whole.
So frankly the OL doesn't even make my top 3 concerns since it was average at best and Miles sucked a lot more than his season stats suggest:
1) where the pass rush is going to come from
2) WR depth (tough enough already to have to rely on 2 true sophs to start in Pettis and Lenius)
3) DL depth (we need Mathis and Qualls to stay healthy)
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Fuck your blueblood shit hillbilly. You SEC faggots can't exclude Oregon from its rightful place at the top so you try to exclude it through your lexicon. Wins are what matter, and Oregon has been racking them up more than any other program in the nation while your 'bluebloods' like Tennessee and Oklahomo are festering in mediocrity.BallSacked said:
Fair point. I guess that's the best comp as Dinardo was a zoo and proceeded by a top 5 coach all-time. The rest are blue-bood programs and Oregon, not a fair comparison to Washingtons situation.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Flagged for saying LSU is a "Blue Blood". That's fucking Doog-logic right there. "LSU is elite!!" Hahahaha... no.BallSacked said:The difference here is that CP inherited the worst roster, by far, and he is at a historically just okay recruiting school (relative to SC Florida Ohio St and oklahoma). Save Oregon, those were all "blue-blood" iconic programs they always have a high level of talent.
I believe UW has the fewest returning starters in the Pac12 next year and they appear to have a major QB issue with a brand new OL and DL. That's not a recipe to make a turnaround like those guys listed above did. Carroll in year 2 had a 5th yr senior QB who would go on to win the Heisman.
I think CP will succeed, and retake the North from the ducks eventually, but breaking .500 in 2015 will be a solid effort given what he inherited. If he goes 8-4 or 9-3 I will be impressed.
LSU fucking sucked under DiNardo and even though he recruited decently, it's not really that different than what Sark did.
The myth of LSU being a perennial powerhouse is one of those things that 18 year old kids today think because they've been good since Saban got there, but for the previous, oh, say 30 years, they were not near Washington's level. Or UCLA's.
It would be like if Iowa went on a huge run starting now. Sure, they have some history and they haven't been AWFUL, but they aren't a traditional blue blood.
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Championships > wins.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Fuck your blueblood shit hillbilly. Wins are what matter, and Oregon has been racking them up more than any other program in the nation while your 'bluebloods' like Tennessee and Oklahomo are festering in mediocrity.BallSacked said:
Fair point. I guess that's the best comp as Dinardo was a zoo and proceeded by a top 5 coach all-time. The rest are blue-bood programs and Oregon, not a fair comparison to Washingtons situation.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Flagged for saying LSU is a "Blue Blood". That's fucking Doog-logic right there. "LSU is elite!!" Hahahaha... no.BallSacked said:The difference here is that CP inherited the worst roster, by far, and he is at a historically just okay recruiting school (relative to SC Florida Ohio St and oklahoma). Save Oregon, those were all "blue-blood" iconic programs they always have a high level of talent.
I believe UW has the fewest returning starters in the Pac12 next year and they appear to have a major QB issue with a brand new OL and DL. That's not a recipe to make a turnaround like those guys listed above did. Carroll in year 2 had a 5th yr senior QB who would go on to win the Heisman.
I think CP will succeed, and retake the North from the ducks eventually, but breaking .500 in 2015 will be a solid effort given what he inherited. If he goes 8-4 or 9-3 I will be impressed.
LSU fucking sucked under DiNardo and even though he recruited decently, it's not really that different than what Sark did.
The myth of LSU being a perennial powerhouse is one of those things that 18 year old kids today think because they've been good since Saban got there, but for the previous, oh, say 30 years, they were not near Washington's level. Or UCLA's.
It would be like if Iowa went on a huge run starting now. Sure, they have some history and they haven't been AWFUL, but they aren't a traditional blue blood.
Oregon while not a blue blood, was at least competently coached by an adult and had massive AD/Nike$ committment to football for nearly 10 years prior to Kelly.
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Oregon is in your division. lol.RaceBannon said:
We need to see real results this year and a North division title year 3 or we have the wrong guy
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