They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
The big 10 is a joke. They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
If your opinion coincides with Butler Cabin's opinion (allegedly), then at minimum 81% of the time you should reconsider your opinion.
Look in the official playoff thread. I paint a picture with facts. Texas- worst season since 2010. Before that, 1997. Oklahoma- Worst season since 2009. OK State- worst season since 2007. Iowa State has gone from a team capable of upsets to total disaster. Texas Tech has gone from above average to horrible. No standout non conference wins. It's not a good conference this year.
It's debatable who is the better team between TCU/Baylor/Ohio State.
But anyone who tries to argue the Big10 isn't shittier than the Big12 is a certifiable Fucktard and probably should DIAFF or lock himself in SunnyDoogers basement rape pit.
Illinois managed to get bowl eligible in that league. Iowa State beat Iowa on the road. Utah gave Michigan a bigger beating than Ohio State. Northwestern beat Wisconsin but lost to Cal. There is no objective argument you can construct that doesn't have the Big10 the worst or 2nd worst conference (in front of ACC) in college football.
They both suck. It's like picking the smarter retard. The only thing that makes the Big 12 better is they have less teams, so essentially they have less shitty teams.
They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
The big 10 is a joke. They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
If your opinion coincides with Butler Cabin's opinion (allegedly), then at minimum 81% of the time you should reconsider your opinion.
Look in the official playoff thread. I paint a picture with facts. Texas- worst season since 2010. Before that, 1997. Oklahoma- Worst season since 2009. OK State- worst season since 2007. Iowa State has gone from a team capable of upsets to total disaster. Texas Tech has gone from above average to horrible. No standout non conference wins. It's not a good conference this year.
It's debatable who is the better team between TCU/Baylor/Ohio State.
But anyone who tries to argue the Big10 isn't shittier than the Big12 is a certifiable Fucktard and probably should DIAFF or lock himself in SunnyDoogers basement rape pit.
Illinois managed to get bowl eligible in that league. Iowa State beat Iowa on the road. Utah gave Michigan a bigger beating than Ohio State. Northwestern beat Wisconsin but lost to Cal. There is no objective argument you can construct that doesn't have the Big10 the worst or 2nd worst conference (in front of ACC) in college football.
They both suck. It's like picking the smarter retard. The only thing that makes the Big 12 better is they have less teams, so essentially they have less shitty teams.
That argument is pretty retarded. Assessing conference's based on the worst teams is like buying a house based on the best basement.
The Big10 was unanimously seen by national writers as the worst conference after a truly abysmal OOC showing. I think after this bowl season we will again hear the Big10 belly laughs. Looking at their top 5 bowl match ups (tOSU, MSU, Wisc, Minn, Neb) I think they will be dogs in all 5 games (maybe not Minnesota over Missourah). And i predict they will get blown out in 2 or 3, including Sark plundering Nebraska and Baylor running Sparty out of the stadium.
As someone whose family came from Michigan and roots for the Michigan schools to do well more often than not, you've got a better chance today of me saying that TCU isn't one of the 4 best teams in the country than putting the State after the Ohio.
Jesus fucking Christ! Pick a fucking school and root for it. What is this shit claiming UW, TCU and now fucking Michigan and Michigan State too.
Every time I think you couldn't possibly be more FS, you go out and prove me wrong
They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
The big 10 is a joke. They didn't have a single win over a power 5 ooc opponent if I remember right. That's hard to do as a conference.
If Ohio st was Iowa this never would have happened. But they're not and a good Ohio state team does not get left out. If tcu were Texas or Oklahoma there is not a chance in hell they would have been overpasses. Same for Baylor.
All that being said you could make a case for each team and each team can blame themselves.
The Big 12 is also horrible. It's all splitting hairs. You can make a case for each team. IMO, the committee got it right.
If your opinion coincides with Butler Cabin's opinion (allegedly), then at minimum 81% of the time you should reconsider your opinion.
Look in the official playoff thread. I paint a picture with facts. Texas- worst season since 2010. Before that, 1997. Oklahoma- Worst season since 2009. OK State- worst season since 2007. Iowa State has gone from a team capable of upsets to total disaster. Texas Tech has gone from above average to horrible. No standout non conference wins. It's not a good conference this year.
It's debatable who is the better team between TCU/Baylor/Ohio State.
But anyone who tries to argue the Big10 isn't shittier than the Big12 is a certifiable Fucktard and probably should DIAFF or lock himself in SunnyDoogers basement rape pit.
Illinois managed to get bowl eligible in that league. Iowa State beat Iowa on the road. Utah gave Michigan a bigger beating than Ohio State. Northwestern beat Wisconsin but lost to Cal. There is no objective argument you can construct that doesn't have the Big10 the worst or 2nd worst conference (in front of ACC) in college football.
They both suck. It's like picking the smarter retard. The only thing that makes the Big 12 better is they have less teams, so essentially they have less shitty teams.
That argument is pretty retarded. Assessing conference's based on the worst teams is like buying a house based on the best basement.
The Big10 was unanimously seen by national writers as the worst conference after a truly abysmal OOC showing. I think after this bowl season we will again hear the Big10 belly laughs. Looking at their top 5 bowl match ups (tOSU, MSU, Wisc, Minn, Neb) I think they will be dogs in all 5 games (maybe not Minnesota over Missourah). And i predict they will get blown out in 2 or 3, including Sark plundering Nebraska and Baylor running Sparty out of the stadium.
The Big 10 sucks. I completely agree. That said, Ohio State and Michigan State very well could be better than TCU and Baylor. Michigan State's only two losses are to playoff teams. I'm glad Sparty gets to face Baylor and we can find out.
Both conferences have two really good teams, a couple decent teams, and the rest are very average or dreck. Their top 5 teams are pretty comparable. The Big 10 has more really shitty teams though, which is the main difference.
when the top 5 big 10 teams go 0 for 5 or 1 for 4, I will remind you of this conversation.
Like when you said there was no chance SC would beat ND rather easily. I Don't think you have rust belt football dialed in, at all.
That was a lack of belief in Sark after watching him up close for five years. I didn't realize how far ND had fallen.
The stuff about bowl games doesn't really change anything because USC would likely be favored over every team in the Big 12 except TCU and Baylor. They should beat Nebraska. Same goes with Missouri over Minnesota. Same with Auburn and Wisconsin. Auburn already beat the #3 Big 12 team and Kansas State was at home.
The Big 10's 10-14 dreck is what makes the Big 12 better. The Baylor-Sparty game will be telling.
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The Big10 was unanimously seen by national writers as the worst conference after a truly abysmal OOC showing. I think after this bowl season we will again hear the Big10 belly laughs. Looking at their top 5 bowl match ups (tOSU, MSU, Wisc, Minn, Neb) I think they will be dogs in all 5 games (maybe not Minnesota over Missourah). And i predict they will get blown out in 2 or 3, including Sark plundering Nebraska and Baylor running Sparty out of the stadium.
Been waiting years for this.
Any school that schedules like a bitch in September gets slapped like a bitch in December.
Every time I think you couldn't possibly be more FS, you go out and prove me wrong
The Big 10 sucks. I completely agree. That said, Ohio State and Michigan State very well could be better than TCU and Baylor. Michigan State's only two losses are to playoff teams. I'm glad Sparty gets to face Baylor and we can find out.
Both conferences have two really good teams, a couple decent teams, and the rest are very average or dreck. Their top 5 teams are pretty comparable. The Big 10 has more really shitty teams though, which is the main difference.
Like when you said there was no chance SC would beat ND rather easily. I Don't think you have rust belt football dialed in, at all.
The stuff about bowl games doesn't really change anything because USC would likely be favored over every team in the Big 12 except TCU and Baylor. They should beat Nebraska. Same goes with Missouri over Minnesota. Same with Auburn and Wisconsin. Auburn already beat the #3 Big 12 team and Kansas State was at home.
The Big 10's 10-14 dreck is what makes the Big 12 better. The Baylor-Sparty game will be telling.