Why We Are Average and the Importance of Attrition
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Yeah we could still win 9 games if we go 1-2 vs. ASU, Arizona, and UCLA while beating Colorado, Oregon State, and WSU which would put us at 5-4 in-conference.
The OL and QB play so far makes it hard to see a 5-1 in-conference finish. Hope I'm wrong though.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I still think this team can win 9 or 10 games if all goes right. But I also don't think there is much talent on this team.
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We should expect to win games against Colorado and Washington State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I still think this team can win 9 or 10 games if all goes right. But I also don't think there is much talent on this team.
We have 4 toss up games remaining with ASU, UCLA, Arizona, and Oregon State - 3 of which are at home.
We may be looking at another 5-4 season in conference ...
There's enough talent on this roster that if we got reasonable QB play I think we could be expecting to see 6-3 or 7-2 in conference this year. Probably don't lose to Stanford if we had it.
If there has been a massive disappointment to me this year, and an area where I tremendously missed, it was thinking that we'd get more out of Miles than we are. He's just not an upper end PAC QB in my mind. -
Oregon State at home should not be a toss-up. You lose that game your head coach isn't the right guy.Tequilla said:
We should expect to win games against Colorado and Washington State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I still think this team can win 9 or 10 games if all goes right. But I also don't think there is much talent on this team.
We have 4 toss up games remaining with ASU, UCLA, Arizona, and Oregon State - 3 of which are at home.
We may be looking at another 5-4 season in conference ...
There's enough talent on this roster that if we got reasonable QB play I think we could be expecting to see 6-3 or 7-2 in conference this year. Probably don't lose to Stanford if we had it.
If there has been a massive disappointment to me this year, and an area where I tremendously missed, it was thinking that we'd get more out of Miles than we are. He's just not an upper end PAC QB in my mind. -
It would be interesting to check attrition for Boise State while Petersen was there. I bet Stanford is low but I'd best Boise St is even lower.
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I'm sorry - have you not paid attention to our QB play in 3 conference games so far this year?greenblood said:
Oregon State at home should not be a toss-up. You lose that game your head coach isn't the right guy.Tequilla said:
We should expect to win games against Colorado and Washington State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I still think this team can win 9 or 10 games if all goes right. But I also don't think there is much talent on this team.
We have 4 toss up games remaining with ASU, UCLA, Arizona, and Oregon State - 3 of which are at home.
We may be looking at another 5-4 season in conference ...
There's enough talent on this roster that if we got reasonable QB play I think we could be expecting to see 6-3 or 7-2 in conference this year. Probably don't lose to Stanford if we had it.
If there has been a massive disappointment to me this year, and an area where I tremendously missed, it was thinking that we'd get more out of Miles than we are. He's just not an upper end PAC QB in my mind.
Until we are able to get QB play that I consider to be PAC quality, there's really not a single game that I look at on the schedule and feel tremendously comfortable about at this point. -
Just did Stanford. 2010 they lost 9 guys already, 2011 no one has left, 2012 2 have left, 2013 no one has left...
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I think you are winning 3 of those 4 "toss-up" games. The single loss coming to ASU. You'll go 6-3 in Conference 10-3 overall. A bowl win would put you at 11 wins. I think that is entirely possible, especially since you get to skip USC and Utah this year, which is a big help.
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WSU's numbers are INSANE.
2010: Signed 26, 12 gone already.
2011: Signed 29, 18 gone already.
2012: Signed 27, 13 gone already.
2013: Signed 28, 7 gone already.
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We are going to do that after PAC12, Chest. Eventually we are going to go all the way back to 2007 I think, maybe earlier.HeretoBeatmyChest said:It would be interesting to check attrition for Boise State while Petersen was there. I bet Stanford is low but I'd best Boise St is even lower.
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Just off the top of my head: Mariotta, Freeman, Ifo, Grassu, Armstead... IDK. Don't follow the Ducks closely, but I think those are all guys that are pretty talented right there, I also like their TE Brown. Ducks would know better though.RoadDawg55 said:Good stuff. The attrition and lack of redshirts has hurt the program. Sample, Ducre, Kevin Smith, Pio V, etc. Those guys would really help. That is one thing that excites me about Petersen. I don't think Sark cared about the bottom half of his recruiting classes. Petersen does and he really delves into their character, which hopefully leads to less attrition.
I do disagree with some of the article. This team has talent, but it is lacking it at the most important spot, QB. The RB's are pretty bad too. Talent was only one of the reasons we got plungered by Oregon. As I have stated many times, less talented teams than UW's played tough against Oregon. Arizona even beat them. Jake Fisher returning obviously has been a major boon. However, he was not a 25 point difference.
Nobody expected a great team, just a good one that wins 10 games. Let's not move the goalposts now. The fact that we have flaws and youth/talent deficiencies in places shouldn't be news. It was known all along. 10 wins is still feasible and I think there is enough talent to do that. It won't be easy, but if we don't, I certainly won't blame it all on a lack of talent.
5 stars is a good start. If you asked Greenblood or another logical Duck fan, I doubt they would name more than 5 guys who are stars. I suppose who those star players are also matters. I would trade 3 of our stars for Mariota. I don't blame it all on Petersen, but change can be tough. Some guys have taken to it and gotten better. Danny Shelton, Shaq, and John Ross are examples. Others guys have not. Timu and Feeney haven't gotten any better, and are possibly worse. The OL looks no better than it did last year. Up to this point, I can't say we are over achieving with the talent we have, and we are possibly under achieving. There is still a lot of season left though.
