Finally viewed the UCLA-Oregon replay.
Even so -- and despite their well documented OL woes -- UCLA absolutely ran the ball at will on the Ducks: 328 rush yards, 6.1 yds/carry, 11-19 third down efficiency, 2-2 fourth down efficiency, and a nearly 2:1 TOP margin. The Bruins outgained Oregon by every offensive measure. I would not have guessed this at all from the score and highlights.
It's not news that Oregon has a vulnerable defense. But they really got manhandled in this game. UW should be able to run consistently on them -- Miles included. If you can limit their big plays, Oregon looks to me like an extremely beatable team.
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260 of UCLA's 550-odd yards were in garbage time. Yes, we shouldn't have closed up shop at the start of the fourth quarter. But we did, because of Don Pellum's conversion to the Nation of Islam.
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Problem is that the game just seemed over after Hundley coughed it up and they scored.
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He's a disgrace as a Muslim. Does ISIS take its foot off the gas? Never. There's nothing worse than a mediocre Muslim.AZDuck said:260 of UCLA's 550-odd yards were in garbage time. Yes, we shouldn't have closed up shop at the start of the fourth quarter. But we did, because of Don Pellum's conversion to the Nation of Islam.
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260 of UCLA's 550-odd yards were in garbage time. Yes, we shouldn't have closed up shop at the start of the fourth quarter. But we did, because of Don Pellum's conversion to the Nation of Islam.
UCLA was running at will in the first half too. Especially Hundley. Then Perkins had a big third quarter.
I agree with everything @AZDuck wrote (in another thread) about UO's tackling and gap integrity issues. @Damone has been asking when UW is going to play another defense as shitty as Cal's. I think the answer is *this week*. -
I agree with everything @AZDuck wrote (in another thread) about UO's tackling and gap integrity issues. @Damone has been asking when UW is going to play another defense as shitty as Cal's. I think the answer is *this week*.TTJ said:260 of UCLA's 550-odd yards were in garbage time. Yes, we shouldn't have closed up shop at the start of the fourth quarter. But we did, because of Don Pellum's conversion to the Nation of Islam.
Our defense is godawful, that's for sure. I just think that UW's offense is worse. Even more aggravating from my point of view is that we will make Miley Cyrus look like a good QB. He will have his best day, statistically speaking, since the EWU game. Still, your lack of a running game or recievers with non-igneous hands will prevent UW from capitalizing.
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Our defense is godawful, that's for sure. I just think that UW's offense is worse. Even more aggravating from my point of view is that we will make Miley Cyrus look like a good QB. He will have his best day, statistically speaking, since the EWU game. Still, your lack of a running game or recievers with non-igneous hands will prevent UW from capitalizing.AZDuck said:
I agree with everything @AZDuck wrote (in another thread) about UO's tackling and gap integrity issues. @Damone has been asking when UW is going to play another defense as shitty as Cal's. I think the answer is *this week*.TTJ said:260 of UCLA's 550-odd yards were in garbage time. Yes, we shouldn't have closed up shop at the start of the fourth quarter. But we did, because of Don Pellum's conversion to the Nation of Islam.
You might be right (although I think you're underestimating UW's ground game). I don't see Oregon covering a -21, though. -
Agree. We're not going to cover. Halfrich is also shitty ATS
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I like the doogs in this one.
Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.
Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.
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if by beatable you mean we'll hang with them til halftime and then get run by 35 in the 2nd half, I agree.
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Coach Pete can always resort to the Nick Holt Blueprint
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Do you have red S's on your helmets? No. You couldn't hold EWU to under 50 points and you think you'll hold Oregon to under 30? That's some potent kool aid you're drinking.PostGameOrangeSlices said:I like the doogs in this one.
Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.
Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.
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I shouldn't even respond to your quack ass, but our D has significantly improved since EWU. It's possible, and since i'm doogin and picking the daWgs, it's most likely happening in a low scoring affair versus a shoot out.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Do you have red S's on your helmets? No. You couldn't hold EWU to under 50 points and you think you'll hold Oregon to under 30? That's some potent kool aid you're drinking.PostGameOrangeSlices said:I like the doogs in this one.
Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.
Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.
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The young secondary was the problem in that game, and they've improved rapidly.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Do you have red S's on your helmets? No. You couldn't hold EWU to under 50 points and you think you'll hold Oregon to under 30? That's some potent kool aid you're drinking.PostGameOrangeSlices said:I like the doogs in this one.
Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.
Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.
If we score over 28, we will win this game. I don't think Oregon scores more than that.
Cal was averaging 50+ and throwing for 450+ a game, and our D fucked them up...@ Cal. Not a lot of wide open Bear receivers running down the field, which was the issue in the EWU game.
That same Cal offense gave Arizona's defense FITS in the desert....and Arizona's defense didn't seem too intimidated in Autzen.
I know the transitive property doesn't mean shit, but UW has the potential to give your offense problems. If your RBs are getting stuffed and Mariota can't find lanes to run through, you're legitimately in trouble. You won't win by passing alone.
Meanwhile, I think Coleman/Washington are going to have a field day against your front seven. This game all comes down to the UW o-line. It's time for them to man the fuck up. If they open lanes for the RBs and give Cyler time to throw, you're toast. -
The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there. -
You're forgetting something here. In those two games Mariota was sacked 12 times. Against UCLA, zero sacks. Fisher's return seems to have reignited the O-line and Oregon is close to being back to the team it was against Michigan State. We still have Helfrich, and that's a con, but if the o-line is really back, watch out.RoadDawg55 said:The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there. -
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You're forgetting something here. In those two games Mariota was sacked 12 times. Against UCLA, zero sacks. Fisher's return seems to have reignited the O-line and Oregon is close to being back to the team it was against Michigan State. We still have Helfrich, and that's a con, but if the o-line is really back, watch out.RoadDawg55 said:The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there.
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That is the $1,000,000 question. Did your OL look better because UCLA only has 7 sacks in 6 games? Danny Shelton has the same amount by himself. Or does Fisher actually make the OL legit? I would assume it's a bit of both. I know Fisher is solid, but if Kikaha can get pressure and sacks on Andrus Peat, I think he can get them on Fisher. He moves around too and will go against Crosby at times as well.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're forgetting something here. In those two games Mariota was sacked 12 times. Against UCLA, zero sacks. Fisher's return seems to have reignited the O-line and Oregon is close to being back to the team it was against Michigan State. We still have Helfrich, and that's a con, but if the o-line is really back, watch out.RoadDawg55 said:The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there. -
Another interesting thing will be Joe Walker. He's a beast at linebacker and played like a monster against UCLA. Our coaches really are FS if they don't unleash him on the Huskies.RoadDawg55 said:
That is the $1,000,000 question. Did your OL look better because UCLA only has 7 sacks in 6 games? Danny Shelton has the same amount by himself. Or does Fisher actually make the OL legit? I would assume it's a bit of both. I know Fisher is solid, but if Kikaha can get pressure and sacks on Andrus Peat, I think he can get them on Fisher. He moves around too and will go against Crosby at times as well.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're forgetting something here. In those two games Mariota was sacked 12 times. Against UCLA, zero sacks. Fisher's return seems to have reignited the O-line and Oregon is close to being back to the team it was against Michigan State. We still have Helfrich, and that's a con, but if the o-line is really back, watch out.RoadDawg55 said:The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there. -
I'm kicking ass on FREE PUB!!! this week ... it's a cool week to be Tequilla brahRoadDawg55 said:The doogman posters all seem to think Oregon wins big. That alone makes me want to predict a win. I enjoy reading that a guy with 0 INT's is going to throw multiple pick 6's and it's impossible for Miles to beat Oregon, even though outstanding QB's such as Vanilla Vick and Kevin Hogan have done so. I also like seeing Ducks on this board overcompensate and act like everything is peachy after the UCLA game.
@Tequilla called it last week when he guaranteed a win because the LPT all predicted a loss. If WSU and Arizona can play with Oregon, no reason to think UW can't. Defense and coaching wins games. We have the edge there. -
Until we can prevent being boat raced in the third quarter of an Oregon game, I don't see us having much of a chance. But if this is the year we do, it will be a nail biter to the end. Since I threw away game predicting purple lens, I'm saying 34-17 Ducks. Please prove me wrong Dawgs...
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This is a game that could have a wide range of outcomes mostly due to Mariotta against the UW front 7. Maybe UO's OL is good enough to allow him to win the matchup. However, maybe it isn't much better than it was against Arizona and UW's front 7 is a lot better than Arizona's. Maybe the OL is back to full strength giving UO clear advantage. You just don't know. Anyway, it will be interesting.
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In all seriousness, I see +21 as Vegas being ridiculous.
Football is a 3 phase game with coaching also needing to be considered in the equation.
Offense: Clearly Oregon has an advantage here. Turnovers will be a big issue in this game as neither team has thrown an INT so far this year. We're +14 in turnover margin while Oregon is +9. IMO, this is going to be a key element in this game as our defense needs to find ways to create a few turnovers. UW needs to be able to churn out one of their best efforts on the ground in this game and it wouldn't hurt to get a few touches for Shaq in this game. Miles will need to be able to make 2-3 key throws in the passing game.
Defense: We are giving up 21 a game compared to 24 per game for Oregon. We're now giving up under 400 yards per game and are giving up close to 80 yards fewer per game than Oregon. Our ability to create turnovers is also better. This is a phase of the game that the UW MUST win if it is going to beat Oregon.
Special Teams: We appear to have a decided edge in the kicking game. Van Winkle is a legitimate threat to make a FG whereas Oregon's only attempted 4 FGs this year (and none from 40 or beyond). The punting game appears to be relatively even although Durkee's performance against Stanford would lead one to believe that his ability to perform in a big game could be an advantage for us. Once an area where Oregon exploited opponents, their special teams have so far been pedestrian by their standards leading me to believe that we may have an edge in the return game.
Coaching: Petersen >>> Helfrich. No comments needed here.
So when you break it down, this is really a strength on strength and weakness on weakness game. It will be absolutely critical for our front 7 to be able to control the LOS against Oregon. With Shelton's ability to dominate the middle, I like our ability to at least be able to force Oregon to have to slowly move the ball down the field if they focus on the up the middle runs (and patience isn't their strength). Our ability to then focus some of our LB play to maintain the edges as well as to penetrate up the field will disrupt Oregon's east/west running game. One area of concern that I do have is that if our front is able to get enough pressure on Mariota such that he steps up in the pocket and kills us on scramble runs ... so rush integrity will be important. IF we're able to make Oregon fairly one dimensional in the passing game, that's historically been a sign of being able to beat them. Offensively, we need to be able to sustain drives and ensure that we're consistently winning the field position battle. It's imperative that if we don't score on drives, we force Oregon to go long fields to score TDs. If we can get to +2 in the turnover game, then I'm really liking our chances.
In the end, I don't see Oregon scoring in the 40s on us this year with our ability to get up the field on just about everybody we've played combined with Oregon's problems on the OL. I'd be surprised if they got in the 30s unless we help them with turnovers or special teams play. I do think that Oregon's defense has shown consistent struggles this year against the run without sacrificing the pass. We're hitting the part of the season where I think we can expect Miles to put together a game where you start scratching your head wondering where that came from in the good way (see the Swoopes kid from Texas last week against Oklahoma). A defensive and/or special teams score would be absolutely huge for us.
Finally, there's a certain arrogance that I see from Oregon wearing the 1994 uniforms against us. It's a bit of a rubbing our noses in the past as well as going to the Lane Kiffin school of shit talking with the whole Duckade of Dominance. We know that the streak is going to end at some point. We know that the UW for the first time in the last 11 years has the best HC on the sideline. And quite possibly for the first time in that time period we have the better defense. I'm not sure we win this game or not. But I'd be absolutely shocked if we got to the 4th quarter this year and we weren't in position to win the game. The more I see of the conference, the more I'm convinced that the best unit in the conference is Stanford's defense. I think the UW defense is in the Top 3-5 units in the conference. I also think that Stanford's still probably the best team in the conference. We should have no fear going into this game. -
LOL at Miley Cyrus needing only 2 to 3 key throws. Try 20 to 30. Oregon took UCLA to the house on their turf and then let up on the gas pedal. Are you better than FUCLA? If you think you're holding Oregon to under 30 points in the hostile environment of Autzen Stadium, you're an epic doog. The piss balloons alone will be intimidating enough, not to mention the quooks that will be pushing peoples' grandmothers in wheelchairs down the stairs. If your team members bring their girlfriends or wives to the game, the clear and present danger of the Autzen rapist lurking somewhere in the parking lot will be on their minds. It will be enough distraction to give Oregon a 7 point advantage before the game even begins. Good luck doog. Instead of drinking kool-aid spiked with acid, you should be worrying about the husky pelt that Oregon will be collecting on Saturday. Bend over bitches. 11 straight.
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oregonblitzkrieg said:
LOL at Miley Cyrus needing only 2 to 3 key throws. Try 20 to 30. Oregon took UCLA to the house on their turf and then let up on the gas pedal. Are you better than FUCLA? If you think you're holding Oregon to under 30 points in the hostile environment of Autzen Stadium, you're an epic doog. The piss balloons alone will be intimidating enough, not to mention the quooks that will be pushing peoples' grandmothers in wheelchairs down the stairs. If your team members bring their girlfriends or wives to the game, the clear and present danger of the Autzen rapist lurking somewhere in the parking lot will be on their minds. It will be enough distraction to give Oregon a 7 point advantage before the game even begins. Good luck doog. Instead of drinking kool-aid spiked with acid, you should be worrying about the husky pelt that Oregon will be collecting on Saturday. Bend over bitches. 11 straight.
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This is the key to the game. If UW's defense plays like it did against Cal, Oregon is in real trouble, in fact I think the Huskies win this game if they do. That said, I'm still in LIPO mode with UW, haven't seen near enough in terms of complete play from them to go full doog yet, but they are clearly improving as the season goes on. Win or lose, we'll know better where the Huskies are in their development after this game.HeretoBeatmyChest said:This is a game that could have a wide range of outcomes mostly due to Mariotta against the UW front 7. Maybe UO's OL is good enough to allow him to win the matchup. However, maybe it isn't much better than it was against Arizona and UW's front 7 is a lot better than Arizona's. Maybe the OL is back to full strength giving UO clear advantage. You just don't know. Anyway, it will be interesting.
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PGOS- OBK is right you know. No way they hold em to 28... aint happening.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Do you have red S's on your helmets? No. You couldn't hold EWU to under 50 points and you think you'll hold Oregon to under 30? That's some potent kool aid you're drinking.PostGameOrangeSlices said:I like the doogs in this one.
Seriously, I do. I'm drinking the kool-aid.
Our d-line is only giving up 3.1 yards per rushing attempt, and I think our secondary is VASTLY improved since the start of the year.
If we score over 28, we will win this game. I don't think Oregon scores more than that.
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http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=400548274oregonblitzkrieg said:If you think you're holding Oregon to under 30 points in the hostile environment of Autzen Stadium, you're an epic doog.
2 weeks ago says hello.
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Arizona held you guys to 24 on your homefield, WSU who doesn't play defense to 38.oregonblitzkrieg said:LOL at Miley Cyrus needing only 2 to 3 key throws. Try 20 to 30. Oregon took UCLA to the house on their turf and then let up on the gas pedal. Are you better than FUCLA? If you think you're holding Oregon to under 30 points in the hostile environment of Autzen Stadium, you're an epic doog. The piss balloons alone will be intimidating enough, not to mention the quooks that will be pushing peoples' grandmothers in wheelchairs down the stairs. If your team members bring their girlfriends or wives to the game, the clear and present danger of the Autzen rapist lurking somewhere in the parking lot will be on their minds. It will be enough distraction to give Oregon a 7 point advantage before the game even begins. Good luck doog. Instead of drinking kool-aid spiked with acid, you should be worrying about the husky pelt that Oregon will be collecting on Saturday. Bend over bitches. 11 straight.
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Yes. Better defense, better coaching, John Ross.oregonblitzkrieg said:Are you better than FUCLA?
