Grantland headline - The Quiet Genius of Oregons Mark Helfreich

allpurpleallgold

I can't link on my phone but this is real, not a troll.

RaceBannon

grantland.com/features/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-chip-kelly/

Too soon?

Swaye

Is quiet genius slang for slight retardation?

RaceBannon

Some ducks need an Owen12 to gain some perspective

“The Chip Kelly era, while it afforded the program this next level of growth, left a lot of people feeling like they didn’t have a connection to the program like they once did,” says Paul Swangard, managing director of Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center. “It was the symbolism of a lot of things: The closing of practice, the building of those facilities, and just the feeling that it wasn’t as approachable a college team as it once was.”

Some of that was inevitable; some of that was a product of the choice Oregon and Knight made, in the mid-1990s, to elevate the program to an elite level. But some of it was specific to Kelly, who is unquestionably a brilliant football mind, but who is also complex to interface with and often seems trapped inside his own head. At one point, Swangard recalls, he found himself in the football office with a grandfather and his grandson, whom the grandfather presented to Kelly by saying, “Here’s your next great linebacker.” Kelly flashed an awkward smile and walked on without saying anything.

allpurpleallgold

Chip is so great.

MikeDamone

RaceBannon said:

Some ducks need an Owen12 to gain some perspective

“The Chip Kelly era, while it afforded the program this next level of growth, left a lot of people feeling like they didn’t have a connection to the program like they once did,” says Paul Swangard, managing director of Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center. “It was the symbolism of a lot of things: The closing of practice, the building of those facilities, and just the feeling that it wasn’t as approachable a college team as it once was.”

Some of that was inevitable; some of that was a product of the choice Oregon and Knight made, in the mid-1990s, to elevate the program to an elite level. But some of it was specific to Kelly, who is unquestionably a brilliant football mind, but who is also complex to interface with and often seems trapped inside his own head. At one point, Swangard recalls, he found himself in the football office with a grandfather and his grandson, whom the grandfather presented to Kelly by saying, “Here’s your next great linebacker.” Kelly flashed an awkward smile and walked on without saying anything.

This is what I like about Chip Kelley. I think in general, he hates people and this type of stupid bullshit they say. Chip was probably thinking "Next great linebacker? The fuck? I have work to do."

Swaye

RaceBannon said:

Some ducks need an Owen12 to gain some perspective

“The Chip Kelly era, while it afforded the program this next level of growth, left a lot of people feeling like they didn’t have a connection to the program like they once did,” says Paul Swangard, managing director of Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center. “It was the symbolism of a lot of things: The closing of practice, the building of those facilities, and just the feeling that it wasn’t as approachable a college team as it once was.”

Some of that was inevitable; some of that was a product of the choice Oregon and Knight made, in the mid-1990s, to elevate the program to an elite level. But some of it was specific to Kelly, who is unquestionably a brilliant football mind, but who is also complex to interface with and often seems trapped inside his own head. At one point, Swangard recalls, he found himself in the football office with a grandfather and his grandson, whom the grandfather presented to Kelly by saying, “Here’s your next great linebacker.” Kelly flashed an awkward smile and walked on without saying anything.

Kelly was probably getting a mild stiffy looking at the young kid so he walked away quickly. I don't know if you have heard, but he might be gay.

ThomasFremont

RaceBannon said:

Some ducks need an Owen12 to gain some perspective

“The Chip Kelly era, while it afforded the program this next level of growth, left a lot of people feeling like they didn’t have a connection to the program like they once did,” says Paul Swangard, managing director of Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center. “It was the symbolism of a lot of things: The closing of practice, the building of those facilities, and just the feeling that it wasn’t as approachable a college team as it once was.”

Some of that was inevitable; some of that was a product of the choice Oregon and Knight made, in the mid-1990s, to elevate the program to an elite level. But some of it was specific to Kelly, who is unquestionably a brilliant football mind, but who is also complex to interface with and often seems trapped inside his own head. At one point, Swangard recalls, he found himself in the football office with a grandfather and his grandson, whom the grandfather presented to Kelly by saying, “Here’s your next great linebacker.” Kelly flashed an awkward smile and walked on without saying anything.

That grandfather probably posted on eDuck when the kid was born with the same shitty line.

AZDuck

All in all, a pretty good article. Bellotti, Peterman, and Helfrich are part of the Jim Sochor coaching tree from UC Davis. Helfrich and Peterman were both on Bellotti's staff in the mid-90's... Peterman as wide recievers coach, Helfrich as GA.

Remains to be seen how good Helfrich really is (he's 11-2 so far against non-shit-tier competition)*

* counts Tennessee, Virginia, Texas and Michigan State as non-shit-tier competition since they play in Power 5 conferences.

CuntWaffle

I am going to reserve my judgment on Helfrich until he no longer has Mariotta.

AZDuck

CuntWaffle said:

I am going to reserve my judgment on Helfrich until he no longer has Mariotta.

And that's fair*


* although Hekfrich deserves credit for Mariota's recruitment since he discovered him riding the pine at St. Louis HS in Honolulu before anyone else and got him an Oregon offer before he was even the starter there

PostGameOrangeSlices

CuntWaffle said:

I am going to reserve my judgment on Helfrich until he no longer has Mariotta.

This

And who cares if some grandpa and his brat didn't get a slap on the ass and a 5 minute recruiting convo?

They'll still be duck fans anyways, and I guarantee they'd enjoy wins more than losses

Stupid fucking article/10

RoadDawg55

There are Quooks that deserve 0-12. That grandfather story was awesome. It almost makes Phil Bleenor look good. Anyways, it's all over with Helfrich. Duck fans can say LIPO and I don't blame them because they still have a good thing going, but it's not going to end well. I love that he is Oregon's coach. Mariota is masking some serious issues. How many games would they win without him?

AZDuck

RoadDawg55 said:

Mariota is masking some serious issues. How many games would they win without him?

We'll see next fall. Right now people say Morgan Mahalak is the next guy at QB.

HeretoBeatmyChest

The good news for Oregon is two-fold. Metrics guy told me that any team with that great of a run, tends to at least be top 25 for the next 5 years. Also, it will take probably 3 years for the Chip Kelly effect to fade. The bad news is they had Chip, we had Sark. Now we have Pete and they have Helfrich.

They've also hired from within and the next hire will likely be an outside hire. The assumption is Uncle Phil will just pay for whoever the best hire is. I'm not so sure there will be a great fit available. I think their next coach will struggle to match even Helfrich's record.

doogsinparadise

Boosters are such dorks, wtf is wrong with these people.

Canard

RoadDawg55 said:

There are Quooks that deserve 0-12. That grandfather story was awesome. It almost makes Phil Bleenor look good. Anyways, it's all over with Helfrich. Duck fans can say LIPO and I don't blame them because they still have a good thing going, but it's not going to end well. I love that he is Oregon's coach. Mariota is masking some serious issues. How many games would they win without him?

You've somehow gone 4-1 with two flaming bags of dog shit at QB. The facilities are all built and the war chest is permanently full. If Helfrich can't get it done, someone else will.

Don't know if you've heard but the Dark Ages are over.

PostGameOrangeSlices

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

The good news for Oregon is two-fold. Metrics guy told me that any team with that great of a run, tends to at least be top 25 for the next 5 years. Also, it will take probably 3 years for the Chip Kelly effect to fade. The bad news is they had Chip, we had Sark. Now we have Pete and they have Helfrich.

They've also hired from within and the next hire will likely be an outside hire. The assumption is Uncle Phil will just pay for whoever the best hire is. I'm not so sure there will be a great fit available. I think their next coach will struggle to match even Helfrich's record.

lot of assumptions in you scenario

PostGameOrangeSlices

Canard said:

RoadDawg55 said:

There are Quooks that deserve 0-12. That grandfather story was awesome. It almost makes Phil Bleenor look good. Anyways, it's all over with Helfrich. Duck fans can say LIPO and I don't blame them because they still have a good thing going, but it's not going to end well. I love that he is Oregon's coach. Mariota is masking some serious issues. How many games would they win without him?

You've somehow gone 4-1 with two flaming bags of dog shit at QB. The facilities are all built and the war chest is permanently full. If Helfrich can't get it done, someone else will.

Don't know if you've heard but the Dark Ages are over.

I actually agree with this fucktard.

Oregon is going to be good for the long-haul. They've spent too much money not to be. So long as Phil Knight is doing blow off of freshman anus, the Ducks will be relevant.

RaceBannon

Predicting the demise of Oregon is so first decade of this century

They have earned the benefit of the doubt. They care about football and it shows.

IF UW ever gets it right we could have a NW golden age rivalry. It was close and hate filled when both teams generally sucked pre James. Since James came and then UW dropped football one side or the other has dominated.

It would nice to see both good, but I'll settle for just UW being good. I'm classy like that.

I just think it is a bit early to put the genius tag on Helfired.

CokeGreaterThanPepsi

How does an actual Duck know so much about football? Pretty amazing to me, @AZDuck‌. You seem to be really dialed into Oregon football for being an actual Duck.