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The narrative that Lanning cost Oregon the game is wrong. UW was just better.

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  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,134 Swaye's Wigwam

    SECDAWG said:

    Ok…tired of waiting on a response from my ultimate pod, @GrundleStiltzkin

    Bout to eat my Roses wings, ribs, brisket, and watch his absolute fav, whether the faggot agree or not…Once upon a Tim….


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lyuwBW9lNa8


    Rest can GF. That neans, Get Fucked…

    Me and Grumbkeahitnuts are on same page here… he influences ne to get em fucked…


    @SECDAWG”, my fucking brotha, my pod, PLEASE make this right and make US good…

    No problem, Grumbkeahitduck, I HavE this…

    Look bud, it was 2AM Pacific Time when you wrote that. Grumble is sleeping like a normal person.
    You’re up right now and that’s pretty fucking early pacific time.
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,432 Founders Club

    SECDAWG said:

    And Penix's interception, as it turned out, meant nothing anyway because Oregon didn't capitalize.

    It isn't just about whether or not Oregon could capitalize, but whether or not we would have scored again and gone up by even more.


    Lastly, I've not read a serious post by anyone suggesting that UW was just lucky.

    The narrative is more out in the national media with the suggestion that Oregon lost because Lanning made some play calling mistakes. It isn't a big narrative on this site, but a couple of posters have fallen for it.

    As to the 2018 game you brought up -- sure -- similar situation in terms of coaching criticism -- but switch that game with this game, and Washington is still up 4-3 on Oregon since the last time the Pac12 sent a school to the playoffs.
    Sure enough, but that wasn't the point.
    Yeah... I was brining up a new point.
    I don’t see you rebutting any of my point…after the hard hitting OP…
    The above exchange was with Creep. Are you his alt?

    As to other points made elsewhere, I have't really had time to catch up to all of the 40 comments in this post -- wasn't really expecting more than a couple telling me to fuck off.

    I'm currently vacationing in Thailand so can't promise to be glued to the message board 24x7.
    My Cambodian dentist is married to a Thai lady and he keeps urging me to forget South Korea and go to Thailand.
    Thailand is tropical. Korea, not as much.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,586 Founders Club

    SECDAWG said:

    Ok…tired of waiting on a response from my ultimate pod, @GrundleStiltzkin

    Bout to eat my Roses wings, ribs, brisket, and watch his absolute fav, whether the faggot agree or not…Once upon a Tim….


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lyuwBW9lNa8


    Rest can GF. That neans, Get Fucked…

    Me and Grumbkeahitnuts are on same page here… he influences ne to get em fucked…


    @SECDAWG”, my fucking brotha, my pod, PLEASE make this right and make US good…

    No problem, Grumbkeahitduck, I HavE this…

    Look bud, it was 2AM Pacific Time when you wrote that. Grumble is sleeping like a normal person.
    You’re up right now and that’s pretty fucking early pacific time.
    I'm a vampire, pal
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,586 Founders Club

    SECDAWG said:

    And Penix's interception, as it turned out, meant nothing anyway because Oregon didn't capitalize.

    It isn't just about whether or not Oregon could capitalize, but whether or not we would have scored again and gone up by even more.


    Lastly, I've not read a serious post by anyone suggesting that UW was just lucky.

    The narrative is more out in the national media with the suggestion that Oregon lost because Lanning made some play calling mistakes. It isn't a big narrative on this site, but a couple of posters have fallen for it.

    As to the 2018 game you brought up -- sure -- similar situation in terms of coaching criticism -- but switch that game with this game, and Washington is still up 4-3 on Oregon since the last time the Pac12 sent a school to the playoffs.
    Sure enough, but that wasn't the point.
    Yeah... I was brining up a new point.
    I don’t see you rebutting any of my point…after the hard hitting OP…
    The above exchange was with Creep. Are you his alt?

    As to other points made elsewhere, I have't really had time to catch up to all of the 40 comments in this post -- wasn't really expecting more than a couple telling me to fuck off.

    I'm currently vacationing in Thailand so can't promise to be glued to the message board 24x7.
    My Cambodian dentist is married to a Thai lady and he keeps urging me to forget South Korea and go to Thailand.
    Thailand is tropical. Korea, not as much.
    Busan and Jeju-do look like my cup of tea
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,220 Swaye's Wigwam

    SECDAWG said:

    Ok…tired of waiting on a response from my ultimate pod, @GrundleStiltzkin

    Bout to eat my Roses wings, ribs, brisket, and watch his absolute fav, whether the faggot agree or not…Once upon a Tim….


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lyuwBW9lNa8


    Rest can GF. That neans, Get Fucked…

    Me and Grumbkeahitnuts are on same page here… he influences ne to get em fucked…


    @SECDAWG”, my fucking brotha, my pod, PLEASE make this right and make US good…

    No problem, Grumbkeahitduck, I HavE this…

    Look bud, it was 2AM Pacific Time when you wrote that. Grumble is sleeping like a normal person.
    You’re up right now and that’s pretty fucking early pacific time.
    I'm a vampire, pal
    Hobby boards dont run themselves
  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,084 Swaye's Wigwam

    TheHB said:

    I think it's accurate and a gripe that making everything about Lanning making bad calls there and not getting it is distracting from:

    1. The Husky defense doing a great job in tough 3rd and 4th down situations. It's really fucking hard to get modern offenses off the field with losses of down.
    2. The Husky offense and team as a whole making winners win plays

    I remember damn well in 2019 and possibly 2018 Mario going for it in tough 4th downs and it really swinging the game by getting it

    To me the Huskies having a scheme but also kind of having it be backyard our best players will beat your players instead of Oregon's kind of Petersen like dink and dunk ground control ball control shit which doesn't work in tight moments and when you just plain need to score. The Franklin TD and long pass down the field were set up by shit they had to run for 3 quarters.

    I'm kind of tired about the bitching about the Nix sprint out passes. What? You thought he was going to drop back and get the conversions that way? They also tried to run on that third and short where Lanning got the timeout or shit in but the play ran and got fucking blown out. Their short yardage run game was slipping as the game went on. They were also struggling to pass pro.

    Some of you might want to shield your eyes as I'm about to posit a hypothetical...

    But if Oregon runs a draw play on that final fourth down they probably gain 7-15 yards.
    Also, for those bagging on the sprint out playcall, I’m pretty sure Oregon scored on that play earlier in the game. So there was some positive recent history with it.
    No, they didn't. You're talking about the Herbert TD reception. That play was a direct drop back by Nix, who was in the pocket looking in the middle of the field, that wound up being a broken play. He couldn't find anyone and bailed out to the right, and Herbert saw he was in trouble and found a soft spot in a fair amount of space (because there weren't four other Ducks in the same area) on the right side The sprint outs are designed and everyone moves in the same direction at the snap. Different play altogether.
    Fine. I never claimed to be Hugh Millen.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club
    edited October 2023

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273
    edited October 2023

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
    Disagree.

    Question - if the punting team takes a delay penalty in a situation where they value eating up game clock more and the 5 yds. is no big deal, and then the receiving team declines it, is the time that is run off added back to the game clock?

    Since I'm no Hugh Millen either, wondering why you wouldn't take the delay of game, maybe even twice, in that situation. But if the decline means the seconds go back on the game clock then of course you don't do it. Even I don't need Hugh Millen for that.

    As to the clock, probably some Duck involved in clock management would be my guess. I'd bet that Ramming PR chick got one of her buddies a job at Husky Stadium for this very purpose. Seems likely IMO.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,220 Swaye's Wigwam
    Creep needs to get his reads down
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273
    edited October 2023

    Creep needs to get his reads down

    I've always generally liked you, but I prefer Tuff PGOS selling blow in the U District to message board PGOS and his one liners. HTH
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
    Disagree.

    Question - if the punting team takes a delay penalty in a situation where they value eating up game clock more and the 5 yds. is no big deal, and then the receiving team declines it, is the time that is run off added back to the game clock?

    Since I'm no Hugh Millen either, wondering why you wouldn't take the delay of game, maybe even twice, in that situation. But if the decline means the seconds go back on the game clock then of course you don't do it. Even I don't need Hugh Millen for that.

    As to the clock, probably some Duck involved in clock management would be my guess. I'd bet that Ramming PR chick got one of her buddies a job at Husky Stadium for this very purpose. Seems likely IMO.
    After the first completion the clock stopped. UW had the ball already

    Then it starts with a new 40 seconds and UW snaps it right away and scores

    Oregon got 40 extra seconds to miss the field goal

    Don't ever disagree with me in front of strangers
    I didn't disagree with the 40 seconds old man. In fact, I gave you a plausible theory of the case. I'd rather you say thank you and be on your way.

    PGOS would say you probably need to get your reads down. Or whatever.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,220 Swaye's Wigwam

    Creep needs to get his reads down

    I've always generally liked you, but I prefer Tuff PGOS selling blow in the U District to message board PGOS and his one liners. HTH
    I like you too, pod

    Blow selling PGOS is a thing of the past, for better or for worse

    Now I just respond "hang the banner" on message boards
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273

    Creep needs to get his reads down

    I've always generally liked you, but I prefer Tuff PGOS selling blow in the U District to message board PGOS and his one liners. HTH
    I like you too, pod

    Blow selling PGOS is a thing of the past, for better or for worse

    Now I just respond "hang the banner" on message boards
    Makes sense.




















    DWAG sense!!!!!!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
    Disagree.

    Question - if the punting team takes a delay penalty in a situation where they value eating up game clock more and the 5 yds. is no big deal, and then the receiving team declines it, is the time that is run off added back to the game clock?

    Since I'm no Hugh Millen either, wondering why you wouldn't take the delay of game, maybe even twice, in that situation. But if the decline means the seconds go back on the game clock then of course you don't do it. Even I don't need Hugh Millen for that.

    As to the clock, probably some Duck involved in clock management would be my guess. I'd bet that Ramming PR chick got one of her buddies a job at Husky Stadium for this very purpose. Seems likely IMO.
    After the first completion the clock stopped. UW had the ball already

    Then it starts with a new 40 seconds and UW snaps it right away and scores

    Oregon got 40 extra seconds to miss the field goal

    Don't ever disagree with me in front of strangers
    I didn't disagree with the 40 seconds old man. In fact, I gave you a plausible theory of the case. I'd rather you say thank you and be on your way.

    PGOS would say you probably need to get your reads down. Or whatever.
    You need to get your reads down
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,220 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2023

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
    Disagree.

    Question - if the punting team takes a delay penalty in a situation where they value eating up game clock more and the 5 yds. is no big deal, and then the receiving team declines it, is the time that is run off added back to the game clock?

    Since I'm no Hugh Millen either, wondering why you wouldn't take the delay of game, maybe even twice, in that situation. But if the decline means the seconds go back on the game clock then of course you don't do it. Even I don't need Hugh Millen for that.

    As to the clock, probably some Duck involved in clock management would be my guess. I'd bet that Ramming PR chick got one of her buddies a job at Husky Stadium for this very purpose. Seems likely IMO.
    After the first completion the clock stopped. UW had the ball already

    Then it starts with a new 40 seconds and UW snaps it right away and scores

    Oregon got 40 extra seconds to miss the field goal

    Don't ever disagree with me in front of strangers
    I didn't disagree with the 40 seconds old man. In fact, I gave you a plausible theory of the case. I'd rather you say thank you and be on your way.

    PGOS would say you probably need to get your reads down. Or whatever.
    You need to get your reads down
    Case closed

    Not sure why Creep is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    50 yards, 75 yards, 99 yards. Penix is scoring there.

    Only way he doesnt is if Oregon converts the 4th down.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,273
    edited October 2023

    SECDAWG said:

    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.

    Oregon had a lot of yards but never controlled the game.
    I'd say when they were driving and found themselves at mid-field with 2 minutes left in the game it seemed like they were in control of the game.
    I wanted them to punt which means Lanning made the right call

    I knew if Penix got it back he scores

    Still wondering why the clock stopped at 1:45 left. UW could have run 40 seconds even on a 2 play drive
    Disagree.

    Question - if the punting team takes a delay penalty in a situation where they value eating up game clock more and the 5 yds. is no big deal, and then the receiving team declines it, is the time that is run off added back to the game clock?

    Since I'm no Hugh Millen either, wondering why you wouldn't take the delay of game, maybe even twice, in that situation. But if the decline means the seconds go back on the game clock then of course you don't do it. Even I don't need Hugh Millen for that.

    As to the clock, probably some Duck involved in clock management would be my guess. I'd bet that Ramming PR chick got one of her buddies a job at Husky Stadium for this very purpose. Seems likely IMO.
    After the first completion the clock stopped. UW had the ball already

    Then it starts with a new 40 seconds and UW snaps it right away and scores

    Oregon got 40 extra seconds to miss the field goal

    Don't ever disagree with me in front of strangers
    I didn't disagree with the 40 seconds old man. In fact, I gave you a plausible theory of the case. I'd rather you say thank you and be on your way.

    PGOS would say you probably need to get your reads down. Or whatever.
    You need to get your reads down
    Case closed

    Not sure why Creep is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    50 yards, 75 yards, 99 yards. Penix is scoring there.

    Only way he doesnt is if Oregon converts the 4th down.
    I think PGOS needs to get back to selling blow, preferably but not necessarily in the U-District.

    Don James says you're wrong.
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