Mariners Baby, stretch run edition

chuck

Ah fuck it. NOC.

The Angel tears are so fucking sweet though. Yes, I know I'm a moog. Beat Anaheim, nothing else matters.

It's not over til it's over though. Julio only looks like a retard in about 1/3 of his ABs now rather than 2/3. Raleigh is having his late season power surge like last year. Suarez is a pretty clutch hitter just like he was late last year. France is bound to have a better stretch run since it would be hard to be as bad as he was all season.

This team gets weirdly good late in the season. I know that we know, but still, you just never know.

BleachedAnusDawg

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

chuck

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

Beat Anaheim. Nothing else matters, except beating Houston.

I get over excited about beating the Angels. Somehow I hate them more than most rivals.

CuntWaffle

Fishpo31

CuntWaffle said:

https://youtu.be/swPcFyhDMpk

dirtysouwfdawg

chuck said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

Beat Anaheim. Nothing else matters, except beating Houston.

I get over excited about beating the Angels. Somehow I hate them more than most rivals.

Blue Jays?

chuck

dirtysouwfdawg said:

chuck said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

Beat Anaheim. Nothing else matters, except beating Houston.

I get over excited about beating the Angels. Somehow I hate them more than most rivals.

Blue Jays?

Nope. I actually used to like the Blue Jays back in the John Olerud, Joe Carter, Robbie Alomar days.

dirtysouwfdawg

chuck said:

dirtysouwfdawg said:

chuck said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

Beat Anaheim. Nothing else matters, except beating Houston.

I get over excited about beating the Angels. Somehow I hate them more than most rivals.

Blue Jays?

Nope. I actually used to like the Blue Jays back in the John Olerud, Joe Carter, Robbie Alomar days.

You don’t pitch Carter an inside fastball, you just don’t.

Jays are right ahead of us in the wild card standings last time I checked.

chuck

dirtysouwfdawg said:

chuck said:

dirtysouwfdawg said:

chuck said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I thought it was beat Houston, nothing else matters? Or not so much since they aren't an AL West OG?

Beat Anaheim. Nothing else matters, except beating Houston.

I get over excited about beating the Angels. Somehow I hate them more than most rivals.

Blue Jays?

Nope. I actually used to like the Blue Jays back in the John Olerud, Joe Carter, Robbie Alomar days.

You don’t pitch Carter an inside fastball, you just don’t.

Jays are right ahead of us in the wild card standings last time I checked.

Ms came into today a half game ahead of Toronto and both teams won. I haven't looked but I think they're only a game and a half behind Houston now.

dirtysouwfdawg

I’ve been checking every day. I guess I care a little bit.

dirtysouwfdawg

M’s win. Making a run for TexASS

chuck

dirtysouwfdawg said:

M’s win. Making a run for TexASS

If they just kind of hold serve otherwise and hang within a few games they can write their own ticket. 7 games left with Texas and 3 more with Houston.

CuntWaffle

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

chuck

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

dnc

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.

He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.

dnc

But yes he brings baserunning and defense to go along with it. Complete package.

DerekJohnson

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

My first fantasy team was in 1990 (The Johnson City Gigolos). Rickey Henderson hit .325 with 28 dingers, 61 RBIs and 65 stolen bases, if memory serves me correct. Julio is within shouting distance of that type of 4 category production.

chuck

dnc said:

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.

He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.

He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.

I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.

It seems your disagreement is mostly over my choice of labels..."slap hitter" is not what I would label him. I'm just saying that's part of his game and he is at his best when he's using it to get on base and set the table, with the occasional display of power.

chuck

DerekJohnson said:

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

My first fantasy team was in 1990 (The Johnson City Gigolos). Rickey Henderson hit .325 with 28 dingers, 61 RBIs and 65 stolen bases, if memory serves me correct. Julio is within shouting distance of that type of 4 category production.

Henderson is who I was thinking of. Julio should have a few more homers as he develops and hopefully will gain some of Henderson's patience and on base skills. I see him as more likely to compete for a batting title than HR title though.

dnc

chuck said:

dnc said:

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.

He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.

He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.

I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.

Let's take a look at his exit velocities in the streak (if nothing is noted it's a normal single)

Wednesday (4-6)

112.2 (double)
100.7
93.4 (flyout)
95.4
K
89.6 (If hit)

Thursday (5-5)

89.4 (If hit)
95.6
96
110.5 (double)
110.5 (HR)

Friday (4-5)

97.6
100.7 (HR)
76.9
72.1 (reached on error)
83.1 (If hit)

Saturday

106.1
K
109.2
95.3
93.5
K

That's a dude who is mostly hitting the snot out of the ball who has the wheels to still beat it out when he doesn't. Not a guy who is, or should, go up looking to slap the ball.

He'll hit 40. Maybe even 50. Get your screenshots.

chuck

dnc said:

chuck said:

dnc said:

chuck said:

CuntWaffle said:

Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.

I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.

Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.

He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.

He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.

He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.

I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.

Let's take a look at his exit velocities in the streak (if nothing is noted it's a normal single)

Wednesday (4-6)

112.2 (double)
100.7
93.4 (flyout)
95.4
K
89.6 (If hit)

Thursday (5-5)

89.4 (If hit)
95.6
96
110.5 (double)
110.5 (HR)

Friday (4-5)

97.6
100.7 (HR)
76.9
72.1 (reached on error)
83.1 (If hit)

Saturday

106.1
K
109.2
95.3
93.5
K

That's a dude who is mostly hitting the snot out of the ball who has the wheels to still beat it out when he doesn't. Not a guy who is, or should, go up looking to slap the ball.

He'll hit 40. Maybe even 50. Get your screenshots.

So he crushed 5/17 of his hits in that hot streak and has two more a hair over 100mph. The rest were slaps.