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If you don’t think AI will kill us all

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  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    Wait till bad actors harness AI. There will be all types of new scams. Job loss will be significant. IBM is pausing 7800 jobs that could be replaced by AI overtime.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You forgot one thing: the government. They'll regulate the fuck out of it.

    They love to list lawyers on this list, but what they really mean is paralegal and low-level associate volume work. The judgment isn't there yet for a real lawyer. Accountants? Much more vulnerable. Traders and Finance Bros? Already happening. Fake conservative debaters on anonymous internet message boards? Already happening. And as I said long ago, coders are also on the hook. The AI can or will be able to code better than people.

    It technically has the ability to replace everybody. It won't. We're freaking out again like it's Y2K, which turned out to be a nothing sandwich.

    Can't stop progress. The benies will outweigh the costs. May as well sit back and enjoy it and let @oregonblitzkrieg rant about it wherever he ran off to. Maybe this is the beginning of a technological evolutionary pivot Marx envisioned as giving birth to his socialist paradise where scarcity is eliminated. @UW_Doog_Bot ?

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    I'm hearing it might be able to one day replace the guys directing traffic for the guys who lay down flooring.

    Just what I'm hearing.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    Low level repetitive processes will go first. Paralegal stuff.

    Same will be true in accounting. Bookkeepers will go bye bye.

    The 5 year window is about right. It won’t take 10 years. The pace at which things are moving is crazy.

    In things like legal and finance, higher level professionals will use AI as a supplement to their work. Those that don’t will get toasted.




    Yeah my previous comment was a bit hyperbolic.

    This will just further emphasize the need to solve problems, fast, and the turn key positions in most fields will be what is replaced.

    Many people will love the tools long term.

    Still something that society will need to deal with, in one form or another.
    Agree. There's no stopping it. And the benies are potentially huge. I already have a loved one who benefits critically from AI as it exists today. The fuck am I going to support slowing it down. Bring it on. If I have to learn to do something else, so be it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,225 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You forgot one thing: the government. They'll regulate the fuck out of it.

    They love to list lawyers on this list, but what they really mean is paralegal and low-level associate volume work. The judgment isn't there yet for a real lawyer. Accountants? Much more vulnerable. Traders and Finance Bros? Already happening. Fake conservative debaters on anonymous internet message boards? Already happening. And as I said long ago, coders are also on the hook. The AI can or will be able to code better than people.

    It technically has the ability to replace everybody. It won't. We're freaking out again like it's Y2K, which turned out to be a nothing sandwich.

    Can't stop progress. The benies will outweigh the costs. May as well sit back and enjoy it and let @oregonblitzkrieg rant about it wherever he ran off to. Maybe this is the beginning of a technological evolutionary pivot Marx envisioned as giving birth to his socialist paradise where scarcity is eliminated. @UW_Doog_Bot ?

    Creep gets it.

    Im also not convinced that the AI is sophisticated as it's being claimed to be

    I use ChatGPT for some things at work, as should anyone with half a brain. It has obvious limitations.

    It's a useful tool. But it's more like a calculator than it is a human brain
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,625 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You forgot one thing: the government. They'll regulate the fuck out of it.

    They love to list lawyers on this list, but what they really mean is paralegal and low-level associate volume work. The judgment isn't there yet for a real lawyer. Accountants? Much more vulnerable. Traders and Finance Bros? Already happening. Fake conservative debaters on anonymous internet message boards? Already happening. And as I said long ago, coders are also on the hook. The AI can or will be able to code better than people.

    It technically has the ability to replace everybody. It won't. We're freaking out again like it's Y2K, which turned out to be a nothing sandwich.

    Can't stop progress. The benies will outweigh the costs. May as well sit back and enjoy it and let @oregonblitzkrieg rant about it wherever he ran off to. Maybe this is the beginning of a technological evolutionary pivot Marx envisioned as giving birth to his socialist paradise where scarcity is eliminated. @UW_Doog_Bot ?

    Creep gets it.

    Im also not convinced that the AI is sophisticated as it's being claimed to be

    I use ChatGPT for some things at work, as should anyone with half a brain. It has obvious limitations.

    It's a useful tool. But it's more like a calculator than it is a human brain
    What aren't you an expert on?
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,225 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bob_C said:

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You forgot one thing: the government. They'll regulate the fuck out of it.

    They love to list lawyers on this list, but what they really mean is paralegal and low-level associate volume work. The judgment isn't there yet for a real lawyer. Accountants? Much more vulnerable. Traders and Finance Bros? Already happening. Fake conservative debaters on anonymous internet message boards? Already happening. And as I said long ago, coders are also on the hook. The AI can or will be able to code better than people.

    It technically has the ability to replace everybody. It won't. We're freaking out again like it's Y2K, which turned out to be a nothing sandwich.

    Can't stop progress. The benies will outweigh the costs. May as well sit back and enjoy it and let @oregonblitzkrieg rant about it wherever he ran off to. Maybe this is the beginning of a technological evolutionary pivot Marx envisioned as giving birth to his socialist paradise where scarcity is eliminated. @UW_Doog_Bot ?

    Creep gets it.

    Im also not convinced that the AI is sophisticated as it's being claimed to be

    I use ChatGPT for some things at work, as should anyone with half a brain. It has obvious limitations.

    It's a useful tool. But it's more like a calculator than it is a human brain
    What aren't you an expert on?
    Im not an expert on anything

    This is a general bored on a football forum

    Hth
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    jecornel said:

    Wait till bad actors harness AI. There will be all types of new scams. Job loss will be significant. IBM is pausing 7800 jobs that could be replaced by AI overtime.

    Wait????

    What planet are you currently inhabiting jimmy cornel?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,038 Founders Club

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    I'm hearing it might be able to one day replace the guys directing traffic for the guys who lay down flooring.

    Just what I'm hearing.
    It would have to be way more advanced than than the lawyer AI
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    edited May 2023

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    I'm hearing it might be able to one day replace the guys directing traffic for the guys who lay down flooring.

    Just what I'm hearing.
    It would have to be way more advanced than than the lawyer AI
    Thud.

    Replaced is replaced.

    We may finally be witnessing the decline of Racebannon. Real Race would never reach for that one.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,038 Founders Club
    Imagine wanting to replace everyone and not realizing the next logical step

    Pretty fucking stupid
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    edited May 2023

    Imagine wanting to replace everyone and not realizing the next logical step

    Pretty fucking stupid

    You and Marx are in agreement. I always knew you were still a dirty hippy commie.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,038 Founders Club
    The reason apocalyptic AI stories resonate is because it's likely

    When superior intelligence meets inferior its always bad for inferior

    And yes I'm saying the Spaniards were superior in intelligence and force

    Like aliens would be

    Independence Day is more likely than rainbows and unicorns if aliens arrive
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274
    edited May 2023

    The reason apocalyptic AI stories resonate is because it's likely

    When superior intelligence meets inferior its always bad for inferior

    And yes I'm saying the Spaniards were superior in intelligence

    Of course.

    As the senator (or whomever) once said, if it's going to happen, may as well sit back and enjoy it.

    It's going to be like the Jetsons around here. AI will hold your beer, and get you a cold one before you even knew you wanted one.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,225 Swaye's Wigwam
    Aztecs and Mayans needed more tim
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,252 Standard Supporter
    I’ve been demoing some software packages lately. Hadn't looked at anything for about a year. Got led down the ChatGP rabbit hole in the process.

    Incredible how far things have come in a short time. Watched a session where a senior accounting person essentially turned the ChatBot into a first year staff person in about a hour. The learning curve on these machines is amazing and they don't have a know it all attitude like the Millenials/GenZers.

    @creepycoug is correct - the low level grunts in any profession are going to get picked off first. If I was a bookkeeper or paralegal, I'd learn how to drive an excavator or build an OnlyFans page. They are toast. And toast like 5 years or less toast. Their only saving grace is partners in law and accounting firms are old and slow to change their ways so there will be a few stragglers. But once the upper level folks start bragging to one another about how much money they are saving, it's over.

    Hell, I'm old enough to remember when financial statements were typed up by the secretary - and there were shitloads of secretaries who didn't know shit about accounting, they just knew how to type. Legal matters were conducted by dictaphone and yellow pad. There was no such thing as word processing or spreadsheets.

    More senior people will just have their underlings deal with the AIBots and then ride off into the sunset.

    The people who should be shitting bricks are the ones in their late 30s/early 40's who've already paid their dues with grunt work but aren't quite old enough to think about retiring. They'll be next on the chopping block. Once the bots perfect the low level shit, their learning will logically move up to the next level of work.

    (It was Bobby Knight who coined the 'lay back and enjoy it' phrase, BTW).

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,274

    Aztecs and Mayans needed more tim

    And Jesus.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,225 Swaye's Wigwam

    Aztecs and Mayans needed more tim

    And Jesus.
    Kukulkan > Jesus rather easily...say 34-17?


    Smallpox, on the other hand...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,038 Founders Club
    I'm wondering if the diseases actually came from my Vikings who beat Spain to America rather easily. They visited around the time that the plague had come to Europe from China

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