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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    Did I miss the thread where our Tug leftards are debating the potential dem nominees for 2024? I definitely don't want to miss some stellar analysis on the dem candidates from the dazzler, mello, JW and AOG.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    Disney wasn't singled out. The gays and tranny groomers were singled out. Disney went after the Florida Republican government and specifically DeSantis and jumped into the tranny fray. Then DeSantis returned fire. I thought you were big on fighting back.
    Iger landed some blows at the stock holder meeting

    Disney isn't the only special district. Says they are singled out for questioning the governor

    Democrats and Never Trump errr DeSantis Republicans will buy it

    I just report what I'm hearing
    The idea that RDS supporters are neverTrumpers is beneath you.
    Good thing that's not what I said then
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
    The drag queens trans issue is a good one. Giving the soft minded an out by letting it be about Disney could be a problem

    Mello doesn't have to support drag queens he can just focus on Disney while supporting drag queens

    It's the narrative. Fine people on both sides

    For 46

    The never Trump crowd are just waiting to be never DeSantis if Ron wins

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
    The drag queens trans issue is a good one. Giving the soft minded an out by letting it be about Disney could be a problem

    Mello doesn't have to support drag queens he can just focus on Disney while supporting drag queens

    It's the narrative. Fine people on both sides

    For 46

    The never Trump crowd are just waiting to be never DeSantis if Ron wins

    They're not deciding the upcoming election. The swing voters will. I like RDS in that one.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
    The drag queens trans issue is a good one. Giving the soft minded an out by letting it be about Disney could be a problem

    Mello doesn't have to support drag queens he can just focus on Disney while supporting drag queens

    It's the narrative. Fine people on both sides

    For 46

    The never Trump crowd are just waiting to be never DeSantis if Ron wins

    They're not deciding the upcoming election. The swing voters will. I like RDS in that one.
    Ron would've crushed Finland post of the day.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Your delicate sensibilities are not the same ones shared by the majority of Republican voters. Ron is free to beat Trump down anytime we wants. He just can't do it. I'm just calling balls and strikes.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Your delicate sensibilities are not the same ones shared by the majority of Republican voters. Ron is free to beat Trump down anytime we wants. He just can't do it. I'm just calling balls and strikes.
    Typical response from a Trump enabler.

    Try to look at his shot at the CNN chick through the eyes of a swing voter.

    My teens understood this this AM.

    If he beats RDS, he won't win them.

    But he has those Trump Republicans locked up!

    Just like he did in 2020.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Maybe the GOP should find someone that can beat Trump

    DeSantis is less likeable than Trump
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
    I don't need pussies in my life.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Ignoring a complete lack of respect and decorum is a winning strategy said no one ever.

    And to be clear, she started it. Trump didn't start lobbing bombs until she was acting a rude, vindictive cunt.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,887 Founders Club
    Romney / Cheney 24

    I mean Joe is bought by the Chi Coms, senile, accused of pedophilia by his daughter but the problem is Trump



    The democrats play to win

    The GOP still wants to be liked

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    My issue is that DeSantis will appeal to the soft minded swing voters more than Trump. Can't win without them. The other issue is who is going to work for the narcissist Trump? Grifters and fawners. Once you win, you need to lead and understand the details.
    I don't need pussies in my life.
    Me either. But I'll take their vote rather than lose it on Trump's narcissist BS.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Maybe the GOP should find someone that can beat Trump

    DeSantis is less likeable than Trump

    I hear no one knows who he is.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:



    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Your delicate sensibilities are not the same ones shared by the majority of Republican voters. Ron is free to beat Trump down anytime we wants. He just can't do it. I'm just calling balls and strikes.
    Typical response from a Trump enabler.

    Try to look at his shot at the CNN chick through the eyes of a swing voter.

    My teens understood this this AM.

    If he beats RDS, he won't win them.

    But he has those Trump Republicans locked up!

    Just like he did in 2020.
    You better stop him then. I agree, we really should nominate someone electable like Romney.
    No we need to run the guy that was electable in 2020. RDS isn't Romney. Is that another Trump talking point?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Ignoring a complete lack of respect and decorum is a winning strategy said no one ever.

    And to be clear, she started it. Trump didn't start lobbing bombs until she was acting a rude, vindictive cunt.


    Yup and I'm the one with delicate sensibilities. Face it, Trump has thinner skin than Obama and that guy was as weak a cunt as you will find. Imagine what RDS will do to Trump the delicate flower in a debate.

    Oh wait!
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Ignoring a complete lack of respect and decorum is a winning strategy said no one ever.

    And to be clear, she started it. Trump didn't start lobbing bombs until she was acting a rude, vindictive cunt.


    Yup and I'm the one with delicate sensibilities. Face it, Trump has thinner skin than Obama and that guy was as weak a cunt as you will find. Imagine what RDS will do to Trump the delicate flower in a debate.

    Oh wait!



    Thin skin? She was straight up being rude and disrespectful. To a President, no less.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:



    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Your delicate sensibilities are not the same ones shared by the majority of Republican voters. Ron is free to beat Trump down anytime we wants. He just can't do it. I'm just calling balls and strikes.
    Typical response from a Trump enabler.

    Try to look at his shot at the CNN chick through the eyes of a swing voter.

    My teens understood this this AM.

    If he beats RDS, he won't win them.

    But he has those Trump Republicans locked up!

    Just like he did in 2020.
    You better stop him then. I agree, we really should nominate someone electable like Romney.
    No we need to run the guy that was electable in 2020. RDS isn't Romney. Is that another Trump talking point?
    No, that's a Ron Paul 2012 talking point.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,766 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    Trump not only ignored the media he broke them! He called them fake news. Now most the the country also thinks and KNOWS it's fake news. Trump took advice on who to put in his cabinet. Most first termers do. He shouldn't have. He's learned.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,766 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    No Trump says what everyone is thinking. Keep up with Ron he's so far down in the polls to Trump it's never happening for him unless he wants to be VP.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    So if Newsom singles out a conservative business like Musk that's cool?

    All of the sudden we don't want Conservatives to wade into the culture war because the Left will do what they've always done regardless. Okay.

    Maybe Trump should have just taken a page from Bush II and ignored the Corrupt media and he'd have won a second term like Bush/Hitler. I will never understand how people did not see what a horrible strategy attacking them daily was. In the end, they won.
    I don't buy that swing voters cared about Trump attacking the fake news. The difference was Trump's first debate tactics and the election steal with illegally imposed mail in voting along with the corrupt media covering for the dementia patient.
    Bush was Hitler. He was attacked daily by the corrupt media. He was a low IQ chimp. He was a War Criminal. He was hated around the world. He ignored the press and some thought it was a bad strategy. He didn't give them additional oxygen. He won a second term because of swing voters. Kerry was a stronger candidate that Joey could ever hope to be. Joey won.

    Trump started out last night the same way he finished. He's learned nothing. Even if you believe the CNN chick was a nasty bitch, you just keep that to yourself. But it plays to his base and he loves the applause. It's a loser strategy. We know the media is corrupt. Get the fuck over it Trump. Put you GD head down and focus on the issue. But he can't help himself. He has zero impulse control. He will not win.
    But how will the MSM be different with RDS?

    That is the basis of the Quook argument for RDS > DJT.

    Do tell.

    They won't but the strategy of constantly attacking the corrupt media is and was a loser for Trump. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Bush II won reelection by not doing it and having a very unpopular war hanging over his head. Trump didn't have the discipline to pull it off. But trust him, this time will be different. Pass.

    Lockdown Ron became known and popular by attacking the media.
    There's the velvet hammer method then there's Trump.

    I like the RDS approach.

    The Vaxx Pusher does have the nicknames down.
    I like to say groomers should be delt with using a velvet hammer. That's what I like to say.


    We're talking about the corrupt media here. If you're all in with Trump going with the the "fake news" and name calling again I can't help you. It's a proven loser. Without question RDS is more effective because the guy actually knows his shit and uses facts. When you have to call the chick "nasty" while getting in your counterpoint, you've lost. He learned nothing.
    Ignoring a complete lack of respect and decorum is a winning strategy said no one ever.

    And to be clear, she started it. Trump didn't start lobbing bombs until she was acting a rude, vindictive cunt.


    Yup and I'm the one with delicate sensibilities. Face it, Trump has thinner skin than Obama and that guy was as weak a cunt as you will find. Imagine what RDS will do to Trump the delicate flower in a debate.

    Oh wait!



    Thin skin? She was straight up being rude and disrespectful. To a President, no less.

    Former leader of the Free World gets triggered by CNN chick. My teens said he needed to be the adult. Why do they understand this and the adults here do not? If it were planned by her and CNN then mission accomplished. Trump shockingly took the bait. I hear Fox is now mean too.