What do you hate most about air travel these days?
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Delays and/or cancellations
Oh damn it!! I knew I was missing one. TSA security theater is a joke.chuck said:
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...TSA groin searches
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...Abundance…you pretty much summed it up for me, top to bottom. We are approaching retirement, and Mama wants to travel, a lot. I love seeing new-old places, but hate the rigamarole to get there and back. My wife is the travel coordinator, and she has it down pat, but I still consider it a hassle. Add in drunk / unstable people, and my desire to fly is dramatically reduced…
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Delays and/or cancellations
Flying is a necessary evil, because there's so much shit to see on this planet that's too far to drive (or one simply doesn't have the time). But unless you're rich as fuck, it's mostly a miserable experience.Fishpo31 said:Abundance…you pretty much summed it up for me, top to bottom. We are approaching retirement, and Mama wants to travel, a lot. I love seeing new-old places, but hate the rigamarole to get there and back. My wife is the travel coordinator, and she has it down pat, but I still consider it a hassle. Add in drunk / unstable people, and my desire to fly is dramatically reduced…
At the end of the day, I can put up with almost all of it - including the TSA crap (we have Pre so it's not as big of a pain usually) - except for the delays and cancellations. Nothing gets me into a fucking rage like flight delays or cancellations.
@Logistics what the fuck are you guys doing out there? Get your shit together. -
F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style. -
Fat people seated next to youIronic but true
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...PurpleBaze said:
I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style.
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Delays and/or cancellations
I forgot to include Korean de-boarding etiquette for @DerekJohnsonPurpleBaze said:I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style. -
F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...air travel by itself - not worth it
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...I used to really look forward to flying, even after 9/11, but as I have
maturedgotten older, my patience to deal with other people (specifically, other people's bullshit) is waning... -
Fat people seated next to you
One of my big pet peeves is the guysm/gal who walks off the plane into the terminal and stops right the bottleneck area next to the gate to look aroundPurpleBaze said:I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style. -
F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...
Probably the same people who do this when they step off an escalator.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
One of my big pet peeves is the guysm/gal who walks off the plane into the terminal and stops right the bottleneck area next to the gate to look aroundPurpleBaze said:I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style.
KEEP MOVING!! -
F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...I don't want to single out a race (Asians) but people who rush to enter an elevator before anyone gets off need a beat down
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...
RacistBannon has spoken.RaceBannon said:I don't want to single out a race (Asians) but people who rush to enter an elevator before anyone gets off need a beat down
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Hot, young stewardesses are mostly a thing of the pastWhat’s the point of getting hammered on a flight if I can’t make unwanted sexual advances to a cute woman who’s just trying to do her job?
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...coronabruin said:
What’s the point of getting hammered on a flight if I can’t make unwanted sexual advances to a cute woman who’s just trying to do her job?
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...How did you leave off the complete bullshit security process? FUCK THE TSA.
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...
I've decided that the TSA guyRaceBannon said:TSA groin searches
give me an old fashionedpatting me down is more of a fag than I am for opting out of the radiation scanner. -
Delays and/or cancellations
Perfection is the enemy of good.BleachedAnusDawg said:How did you leave off the complete bullshit security process? FUCK THE TSA.
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Don't look at me. Have you tried to deal with the FAA and airline management?YellowSnow said:
Flying is a necessary evil, because there's so much shit to see on this planet that's too far to drive (or one simply doesn't have the time). But unless you're rich as fuck, it's mostly a miserable experience.Fishpo31 said:Abundance…you pretty much summed it up for me, top to bottom. We are approaching retirement, and Mama wants to travel, a lot. I love seeing new-old places, but hate the rigamarole to get there and back. My wife is the travel coordinator, and she has it down pat, but I still consider it a hassle. Add in drunk / unstable people, and my desire to fly is dramatically reduced…
At the end of the day, I can put up with almost all of it - including the TSA crap (we have Pre so it's not as big of a pain usually) - except for the delays and cancellations. Nothing gets me into a fucking rage like flight delays or cancellations.
@Logistics what the fuck are you guys doing out there? Get your shit together.
I've always liked this Rex Kramer quote from the movie "Airplane!": "Airport management, the FAA and the airlines, they're all cheats and liars!" Now, you can add TSA to the mix. Hard to get anything done and make some real changes when dealing with all these stubborn organizations.
Get used to shitty airlines, shitty seat configurations, and shitty travel experience. It's here to stay. Embrace the suck.
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Delays and/or cancellations
It gives one the feeling of a God-like powerCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
One of my big pet peeves is the guysm/gal who walks off the plane into the terminal and stops right the bottleneck area next to the gate to look aroundPurpleBaze said:I don't think I can single out any one single thing that is the most annoying. It all varies. Yes, the TSA bullshit is irritating, but you go to the airport expecting it, so you can kind of mentally prepare.
More than anything, I hate the once-a-year traveler in the terminal. They always look lost and mill about. There is zero situational awareness. Then, there are the people who walk 5-6 abreast, so you can't get around them. Just a group of clueless cows, walking slowly and blocking everyone else going in either direction. You can make the terminal a mile wide and people will still get in your way.
Then, there are the gate lice. Everyone has to swarm the boarding area and be the first one on. In a way I understand, the overhead bin limit encourages this behavior... & it is nice to get to your seat, get situated, and build your nest.
Misbehaving children, fatties, etc. maybe don't bother me that much any more. One thing I truly hate is people behind you using your headrest to when they are getting up or getting back into their seats. Hey fuckface, use your goddamned armrest.
I should probably start getting back at them Kal Penn terrorist Giphy style. -
Delays and/or cancellations
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TurbulenceHot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy. -
F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...
Could you sound anymore old rich and white?whlinder said:Hot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy.
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Delays and/or cancellations
Christ @whlinder ...whlinder said:Hot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy.
What problem is there in life which can't be solved by money?
I mean we've got enough household disposable income to fly a family of 4 to London and back in Delta comfort plus. And the Virgin Atlantic / Delta lounge at Heathrow is pretty plush with good grub, tasty bloody Mary's, and pool tables.
But we're not getting 4 first class that lay down flat for a 9 hour flight. I mean come on man.
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Turbulence
Sure I'll give it a try.RaceBannon said:
Could you sound anymore old rich and white?whlinder said:Hot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy.
@TheKobeStopper
@allpurpleallgold
The best part was by getting in early I was able to make it to the cuntry club for a nice cab that drank like a merlot on the patio overlooking the river, followed by some acoustic cuntry music.
Tune in tomorrow when we discuss rowboat and golf. -
Turbulence
I hear you and on my own dime I'd do the same.YellowSnow said:
Christ @whlinder ...whlinder said:Hot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy.
What problem is there in life which can't be solved by money?
I mean we've got enough household disposable income to fly a family of 4 to London and back in Delta comfort plus. And the Virgin Atlantic / Delta lounge at Heathrow is pretty plush with good grub, tasty bloody Mary's, and pool tables.
But we're not getting 4 first class that lay down flat for a 9 hour flight. I mean come on man.
Yes I could have commented more succinctly with
The poont as you said which I agree with is lack of misery is a function of straight cash homie. In air travel and everywhere else in life. -
Delays and/or cancellationswhlinder said:
I hear you and on my own dime I'd do the same.YellowSnow said:
Christ @whlinder ...whlinder said:Hot stewardesses? Fly a non-US or major Euro carrier.
Shitty food? Eat in the lounge or bring your own. If you want fine dining on an airplane then your expectations are fucked up.
Uncomfortable seats? Pay for more comfortable ones. Almost all airlines offer extra legroom seats for sale now.
Carry-on shit show? Get status and board first. Bring a properly fitting rollerboard.
Annoying children? They don’t usually sit in first/business/economy plus.
Gross bathrooms- yeah that’s a thing. It sucks. The physics of travel make avoiding that pretty tough.
Fat people? Same as annoying children. Rare to see in the front.
TSA isn’t bad either using Pre Check. Yes, it's security theater and therefore dumb, but doesn't actually hold up travel.
I dunno. I’m pretty patient and understanding now with other airline pax. When I need to take a walk to get some perspective an airport terminal is a fine place to see all of humanity in one place.
Other pax get there early and board after me. If I no longer had status I’d travel less and pay for the services required to ensure it's tolerable.
Maybe I've got some recency bias. Had to travel this week. 6:30am departure. Set my alarm for 5am. At Dulles I have no parking issues, easy walk to TSA, no one in line. Walk out to terminal, walk to gate, not even ready to board, so I could have slept for 10 more mins. Board early enough with Delta Comfort+, put rollerboard above, get in seat. Lady with baby shows up, says hey I accidentally booked the two aisles, do you mind switching to the opposite aisle, I'm like sure, I don't want bad travel karma. Baby was fine, flight ontime departure but 10 mins late due to headwinds. Out in and a car 10 mins after gate. Going home, same deal, got uber 90 mins before departure, it dropped me about an hour before, zero line at MSP TSA, once again pissed I could have left 15 minutes later, putz around MSP, board with my UA status, get rollerboard in, settle into super legroom seat (first economy plus row of the E-175), depart ontime, awesome tailwinds so land 30 mins early.
ATBSJBS, I hate turbulence. Too much or certain sensations make my stomach queasy.
What problem is there in life which can't be solved by money?
I mean we've got enough household disposable income to fly a family of 4 to London and back in Delta comfort plus. And the Virgin Atlantic / Delta lounge at Heathrow is pretty plush with good grub, tasty bloody Mary's, and pool tables.
But we're not getting 4 first class that lay down flat for a 9 hour flight. I mean come on man.
Yes I could have commented more succinctly with
The poont as you said which I agree with is lack of misery is a function of straight cash homie. In air travel and everywhere else in life.
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TurbulenceAlthough, I would like to understand how money solves turbulence. Which is what I hate the most about air travel after all.
