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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,391
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    Bob_C said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    The chickenhawks don't care who dies.

    As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
    The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia

    You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.

    This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
    You need to get off the "making excuses" for Russia stuff. It makes you look fucking stupid. "Putin and Russia are evil." No shit man like none of us here have been around long enough to know that.

    You keep talking about raping, torture, killing of civilians as I talk about getting to the negotiating table and making peace to end it. But I'm the appeaser and Putin cocksucker? WTF is wrong with you?

    Ukraine is about to launch a major offensive with new and improved weapons versus what they have been using previously. They are in a position of strength here, and if they want to keep fighting versus appeasing the tyrannical regime that has raped their country, that is their call. I support their right to do that.

    You, and other, want to reward the aggressor with concessions and negotiations.

    LIFPO.
    The city of Bakhmut found this interpretation of the facts charming.

    Bakhmut is a city of 70k that Russia has spent 9 months trying to take, and still hasnt fully taken.

    You knew that, right?
    So why did Ukraine send lots of men there to defend and become encircled and die?

    Bide time


    They also aren't encircled
    Paulus wasn’t either at one point.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,599
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    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,386
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    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Check the anecdotal databases.

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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,391
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    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,599
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    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    I thought it was a strategic defeat?

    SHREDDED
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,599
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    Zelensky reminds me of Robert E Lee
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,391
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,386
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    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Though that and boating on the Columbia is a plus
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
    Hopefully Putin dies and someone comes in and withdraws

    Who knows
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,599
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
    After Zelensky's charge at Gettysburg
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
    After Zelensky's charge at Gettysburg
    Weird thing to wish for
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Stalingrad 2.0.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,599
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
    After Zelensky's charge at Gettysburg
    Weird thing to wish for
    Where did I wish for it

    You're really struggling
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,821
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?

    Hard to keep track

    Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in Ukraine
    Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.

    @PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
    Sure.gif

    Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv

    Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
    Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.
    They held off Russia for 9 months there.

    Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
    Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.
    Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops there

    They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
    So when can we expect the Russians to surrender and get this proxy war over?
    After Zelensky's charge at Gettysburg
    Weird thing to wish for
    Where did I wish for it

    You're really struggling
    After Putin's Little Bighorn

    Hardy har har
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