I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
Russians are overtly paranoid about their borders. It’s historic and part of their DNA. Napoleon and Hitler left an indelible mark.
Ukraine is their buffer for sure.
#MyMongols had something to do with that. The basically forced Russia into centralized power.
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
Agree. Who wouldn’t want the US taxpayer to cover their defense expenses.
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
Agree. Who wouldn’t want the US taxpayer to cover their defense expenses.
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
Agree. Who wouldn’t want the US taxpayer to cover their defense expenses.
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
Agree. Who wouldn’t want the US taxpayer to cover their defense expenses.
Defense expenses against who?
Youre wasting your breath
These mouth breathers are really concerned about a few DOD billions as if that money will somehow be put to something more compelling than stopping Russia from taking over every non NATO former client state
I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.
Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.
Other than that, we actually agree.
I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.
I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
Neither side will accomplish their stated goals
Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
What was Russia's goal specifically?
Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country
They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.
My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.
I can't imagine why Russia's neighbors would want to join Nato. It's a real mystery.
Agree. Who wouldn’t want the US taxpayer to cover their defense expenses.
Defense expenses against who?
Youre wasting your breath
These mouth breathers are really concerned about a few DOD millions as if that money will somehow be put to something more compelling than stopping Russia from taking over every non NATO former client state
Tricks are for kids.
Ain’t nobody got time for the millions game, pee wee.
Zelensky and Fink agreed Wednesday to “focus in the near term on coordinating the efforts of all potential investors and participants in the reconstruction of our country, channelling investment into the most relevant and impactful sectors of the Ukrainian economy.”
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These mouth breathers are really concerned about a few DOD billions as if that money will somehow be put to something more compelling than stopping Russia from taking over every non NATO former client state
Ain’t nobody got time for the millions game, pee wee.
This is a BILLIONS gayme.
Hope this helps.
But the same geniuses behind Afghanistan are not pulling off some galaxy brain bait and switch with Putin.
Bot and I are talking chess.
Race is talking checkers.
Youre drooling all over yourself playing tik tak toe.
Enjoy getting nuked after Turkey leaves NATO you fucking moron
It’s THE whole fucking poont.
And you fell for it. Again.
When I’m burning to death in a nuclear fireball I’ll be sure to thank you as my finals parting words.
You can play chess poorly all you want.
Race, Throbber and Bob_C are playing Go.
Hope this helps.
Afghanistan involved boots on the ground and TRILLIONs
This is peanuts, for a much better cause, and your peanut brain cant understand that
They are called ENDLESS wars for a reason. That’s how you get to a Trillion - with a T.
Not even close
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/zelenskyy-blackrock-ceo-fink-agree-to-coordinate-ukraine-investment.html
Zelensky and Fink agreed Wednesday to “focus in the near term on coordinating the efforts of all potential investors and participants in the reconstruction of our country, channelling investment into the most relevant and impactful sectors of the Ukrainian economy.”
A drop in the pond compared to Iraq and Afghanistan. For NOTHING material in return to show it.
Kicking Russia's ass so hard they cant menance their neighbors and the world? For pennies in comparison?
Sure.gif
Show your work.
We are all DAWG fans here
Silence!!!
It’s about DEMOCRACY!!!