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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:
    Lol. Losing Bahkmut isnt great, but its not like Russia losing Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson

    Now that is pathetic
    Keep punching, Champ!
    Russia's year long plan to capture....Bakhmut?

    Lmao
    You'd look less stupid if you actually read or watched anything poasted here other than your own BS.
    Swing and a miss

    One year to kinda capture....Bahkmut!
    You do know that Ukranian soldiers are in a rebellion in Bakhmut and Z is ordering his General to put it down? They don't like dying for Joey.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    No here gives a fuck about Russia

    Vindman committing treason to remove Trump so Putin could invade should be of some concern

    And then cashing in

    I called it before Biden won

    Can you spell this out for me?

    Im not buying the Biden 5d chess move encouraging an invasion, but Ill consider your take.

    Remember - EVERYONE thought Ukraine was toast within a week. Doesnt really play into that theory
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    And the pup triple

    Vindman is why Ukraine got invaded

    Ukraine got invaded because of a Russian land grab. Just like Georgia. Just like Chechnya.

    Hth
    Simple minds believe simple things

    You've gone full Alex Jones. Sad to see.
    Sure bro

    Great argument

    One could say a simple argument

    From a simple mind
    Ive posted so much info in this thread to support my argument its not even funny

    It is what it is
    So you get a gold star for poasting what the powers that be and the MIC wants people to believe. Are you aware that when Ukraine runs out of the artillery we're supplying that there's no more coming? It's not an endless supply. Do you know what that means?
    Ive poasted stuff from left leaning sources, right leaning sources, and everything in between.

    You just dont want to hear it.

    Russia is going to be having fun with Bradley's and Leopards soon. The coping here will be off the charts.
    Good gracious.
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,287
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    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,473
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    Lol never once said anything remotely to this and 100% Zelensky can fuck the fuck off with this shit.
    Not aimed at you

    I get your argument

    Just don't agree

    In a vacuum sure fuck Russia

    But it's not a vacuum

    America first
    Russia is 100% intent on the downfall of the US and the system that enabled us to become #1. They've been doing everything they can to aid China in their quest to create a "multipolar" world devoid of a superpower aka The US. They literally state as much.

    It's cute people in here think they don't have a problem with Russians. Russians have a problem with us. Reminds me of RIP @CirrhosisDawg trying to apologize for ChYnA. Complete with citing sources being paid and bought for.

    Ukraine ain't my friend, but I'll gladly hand them the brass knuckles to go fight the other gang in my neighborhood...even if they get shot for it.

    Tldr it serves US interests to watch Russia go down a peg or three on the international stage.

    Anywho, @RaceBannon we can disagree. Some retards in here ain't cut out for the higher level realpolitik discussion board.
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,473
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:
    Just some rusty stuff we had laying around waiting to be delivered to the scrap pile.
    War game from generals says we need more money.

    And you guys are claiming a victory lap on this?
    Victory lap? No just laughing at the BS that PGOS has fallen for. Do either of you actually read or listen to anything poasted here?
    I don't read all your stuff hth.

    50 pages of playing tummy sticks and high fiving over how great Russia is.

    Keep taking victory laps.


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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:
    Just some rusty stuff we had laying around waiting to be delivered to the scrap pile.
    War game from generals says we need more money.

    And you guys are claiming a victory lap on this?
    Victory lap? No just laughing at the BS that PGOS has fallen for. Do either of you actually read or listen to anything poasted here?
    I don't read all your stuff hth.

    50 pages of playing tummy sticks and high fiving over how great Russia is.

    Keep taking victory laps.


    The argument of the stupid. Congrats.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,287
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    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    A country that once had 30M people now down to the high teens. Some see the disaster and think it might be in the best interest of Ukraine to seek a ceasefire and a negotiated peace. Some meaning gov't officials and military leaders behind the scenes. I guess they're taking Russia victory laps too. JFC.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    46XiJCAB said:

    A country that once had 30M people now down to the high teens. Some see the disaster and think it might be in the best interest of Ukraine to seek a ceasefire and a negotiated peace. Some meaning gov't officials and military leaders behind the scenes. I guess they're taking Russia victory laps too. JFC.

    Wrong.

    It had 50 million and it still has well over 40...
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,287
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.

    My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.


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    AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,528
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    They might. Russians are complete vodka chugging idiots
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    46XiJCAB said:

    And the pup triple

    Vindman is why Ukraine got invaded

    Ukraine got invaded because of a Russian land grab. Just like Georgia. Just like Chechnya.

    Hth
    Simple minds believe simple things

    You've gone full Alex Jones. Sad to see.
    Sure bro

    Great argument

    One could say a simple argument

    From a simple mind
    Ive posted so much info in this thread to support my argument its not even funny

    It is what it is
    So you get a gold star for poasting what the powers that be and the MIC wants people to believe. Are you aware that when Ukraine runs out of the artillery we're supplying that there's no more coming? It's not an endless supply. Do you know what that means?
    Ive poasted stuff from left leaning sources, right leaning sources, and everything in between.

    You just dont want to hear it.

    Russia is going to be having fun with Bradley's and Leopards soon. The coping here will be off the charts.
    Establishment-left, Establishment-right, and Establishment-everything-in-between. Most don't need to be math majors to find the common denominator.


    All 40 tanks? JFC


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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:
    Lol. Losing Bahkmut isnt great, but its not like Russia losing Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson

    Now that is pathetic
    Keep punching, Champ!
    Russia's year long plan to capture....Bakhmut?

    Lmao
    You'd look less stupid if you actually read or watched anything poasted here other than your own BS.
    Swing and a miss

    One year to kinda capture....Bahkmut!

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

    Hope this helps.

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    No here gives a fuck about Russia

    Vindman committing treason to remove Trump so Putin could invade should be of some concern

    And then cashing in

    I called it before Biden won

    Can you spell this out for me?

    Im not buying the Biden 5d chess move encouraging an invasion, but Ill consider your take.

    Remember - EVERYONE thought Ukraine was toast within a week. Doesnt really play into that theory
    Biden’s not calling the shots.

    Start there and perhaps your checkers mentality can catch up to the rest of us.

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.

    My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.


    Russians are overtly paranoid about their borders. It’s historic and part of their DNA. Napoleon and Hitler left an indelible mark.

    Ukraine is their buffer for sure.
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