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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,305 Founders Club
    PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,908
    RoadTrip said:

    PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

    The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

    Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

    The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

    At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

    If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,977 Founders Club
    The message has been known since Vietnam then Afghanistan 1 and 2

    Gulf War 1 in fact should have been the tell of all tells

    The "world community" will let a super power fuck with a country but never win

    This really is a both sides do it situation. One starts some shit and the other arms the place where the shit started and both burn munitions and civilians before the rebuild

    Your last sentence is correct

    And Zelensky is a piece of shit and a coward willing to hide behind the deaths of his civilians

    When is he up for re election?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,977 Founders Club
    He's got a year

    The next Ukrainian presidential election shall be held, per the Constitution of Ukraine, on the last Sunday of March[1] of the fifth year of the incumbent President's term of office, in Spring 2024.

    https://nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/ukraine-russia-zelensky-putin.html

    KYIV, Ukraine — It’s not hard to guess what President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine must be craving right now: one normal day.

    The comic-turned-president surely never imagined the job would be quite so intense. First, he got tangled up in the impeachment of Donald Trump. Then he had to deal with the Covid pandemic. And now he’s facing the prospect of a full-scale invasion by Russia.

    Russia, of course, has been waging a war in eastern Ukraine since 2014. But now the threat is total: Up to 190,000 Russian troops have amassed near Ukraine’s borders and in separatist regions, and an invasion, bringing devastation and disaster, could come at any time. It’s a gravely serious situation. And Mr. Zelensky, a comedian for most of his life, is in over his head.

    Yet the truth is more prosaic. Mr. Zelensky, the showman and performer, has been unmasked by reality. And it has revealed him to be dispiritingly mediocre.

    After his nearly three years in office, it’s clear what the problem is: Mr. Zelensky’s tendency to treat everything like a show. Gestures, for him, are more important than consequences. Strategic objectives are sacrificed for short-term benefits. The words he uses don’t matter, as long as they are entertaining. And when the reviews are bad, he stops listening and surrounds himself with fans.

    https://aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/5/pandora-papers-no-re-election-for-ukraines-comedian-president

    Kyiv, Ukraine – Alla Butsko hoped that the comedian whose routines and television series made her laugh for years would also make her proud as Ukraine’s first corruption-free president.

    In 2019, the 62-year-old retired librarian cast her ballot for Volodymyr Zelenskyy, head of the District 95 comic troupe, in Ukraine’s most unusual presidential election.

    Zelenskyy said at the time that his total political inexperience would help him uproot the country’s omnipresent corruption.

    But more than two years in office yielded no results, Butsko believed.

    Zelenskyy’s ratings have tanked, while his anti-corruption measures were mostly cosmetic and failed to land anyone notorious in jail, she told Al Jazeera.

    On Monday, on her son’s laptop, she watched Offshore 95, a video by Slidstvo.info, a group of Ukraine’s leading investigative reporters, that “finally opened her eyes”.

    “I was duped, we all were duped. I’m not voting for him again,” she said.

    he findings were based on the Pandora Papers, a trove of millions of documents from 14 offshore service providers leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and its partners, including Slidstvo.info.

    The story detailed how Zelenskyy and his partners launched a network of offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands, Belize and Cyprus.

    The companies date back to at least 2012, the year District 95 went big in Ukraine with regular shows on a television channel owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, a Ukrainian oligarch sanctioned in the US and the European Union for alleged multibillion fraud, the report claimed.

    Zelenskyy’s business partners include Ivan Bakanov, current head of the SBU, Ukraine’s main intelligence agency that often investigates corruption cases, and presidential aide Serhiy Shefir, who administers the offshore companies but shares the profits with Zelenskyy’s wife, the report claims.

    At the time of publication, Al Jazeera’s requests for comment from those accused in the leaks were unanswered.


    He's got a lot of company in that off shore mess

    Some named Biden
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,415 Founders Club

    He's got a year

    Gonna take a wild preemptive conspiracy theory leap and say that election will be postponed.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,977 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    He's got a year

    Gonna take a wild preemptive conspiracy theory leap and say that election will be postponed.
    Bro you're just running up the score with that one
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,764 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023

    RoadTrip said:

    PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

    The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

    Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

    The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

    At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

    If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on
    Fuck the New World Order.

    That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

    We don't want any fucking New World Order.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,908

    RoadTrip said:

    PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

    The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

    Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

    The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

    At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

    If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on
    Fuck the New World Order.

    That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

    We don't want any fucking New World Order.

    It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,764 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    PGOS, I think your head and intentions are in the right place regarding this conflict and I understand your distrust of Russia. I can't speak for the others here but I don't believe anyone supports Russia or their war with Ukraine. I don't trust our? own government or any European member of NATO either. If they were so concerned about Russian advancement beyond Ukraine, then they should be all in against Russia instead of relying upon our? tax dollars. We? seem to care a whole lot more about Ukrainian borders than our own. We? are ignoring our own people and the problems at home at the expense of a criminally corrupt Zelensky and his government.

    The discussion on this topic has definitely been better the longer the thread has gone on.

    Like I said earlier, show me a non corrupt country...it just doesnt exist. I get your guy's distrust of Nato, the US, and especially Biden.

    The being said, I do think the powers that be are making an example out of Russia, and at the same time sending a clear message to China. That message is that wars over territory are a thing of the past, this is the New World Order, fuck around and find out.

    At the same time, Russia has and is still committing horrific war crimes. And its not just one offs here and there like Tiger Force in Vietnam, it's systemic and everywhere they touch tortured and killed civilians pay the price.

    If Ukraine wants to fight and die, I say let them. You guys seem to agree, its the specifics of US backing we disagree on
    Fuck the New World Order.

    That's the point of all this. Fuck NWO, fuck global corporatism. Fuck Davos. Fuck fuck fuck. And fuck anyone who supports that bullshit.

    We don't want any fucking New World Order.

    It's already here. US and its cronies run the world. Better to live here than say...Russia
    Again, fuck the New World Order and anyone who supports it.