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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,415 Standard Supporter
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    PGOS also didn't want to deal with my hypothetical of Putin being backed into a corner and then threatening to use tactical nukes and if the US responded by using tactical nukes in Russian Ukraine that Russia would nuke San Francisco. Like I said, the US people don't want to play that game of chicken.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,662 Swaye's Wigwam
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    The US doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine

    I believe PGOS does

    But not the government

    Ukraine burning is good for bidness

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,415 Standard Supporter
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    The US doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine

    I believe PGOS does

    But not the government

    Ukraine burning is good for bidness

    Exactly. Most also don't give a sh*t about the global warming fraud or educating black people (or anyone really) or stopping black people from killing each other.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    Putin and Xi set to meet. I hear they’re going to discuss the fur and silk trades.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    PGOS also didn't want to deal with my hypothetical of Putin being backed into a corner and then threatening to use tactical nukes and if the US responded by using tactical nukes in Russian Ukraine that Russia would nuke San Francisco. Like I said, the US people don't want to play that game of chicken.
    Neither does Putin.

    The US knows all of his hiding spots and have bunker buster bomb to take Putin out quickly.

    This would effectively be suicide for Putin, and I don't think he is suicidal. He still has an iron grip on the country, as embarrassing as the Special Military Operation is. He has made sure of that and absolutely has consolidated his power in a way not even Saddam could in Iraq.

    I just don't see it happening, but I understand that Russian nukes (rusty or not) are problematic in geopolitics. It is their trump card, I just don't think they want to end Russia as they know it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
    What other scenarios are there?

    Because WW3 isn't NATO and the US versus Russia. That is called a curb stomping.

    And a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US wouldn't be WW3 either IMO. That would be the end of the world.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 9,412 Founders Club
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    World wars are named after the fact.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,415 Standard Supporter
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
    What other scenarios are there?

    Because WW3 isn't NATO and the US versus Russia. That is called a curb stomping.

    And a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US wouldn't be WW3 either IMO. That would be the end of the world.
    Yeah, and I ask you would you respond to tactical nuke strikes against the Ukraine by Russia? Backing Putin into a corner is how you FAFO.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
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    The US doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine

    I believe PGOS does

    But not the government

    Ukraine burning is good for bidness

    I think the US does. Especially after seeing European civilians tortured, raped and massacred in places like Bucha.

    Russia is an evil, expansionist regime and the US has vested interests in stopping that expansion.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,343
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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy warned China in a newspaper interview on Monday against supporting Russia in its war on Ukraine and said doing so would bring on a world war.

    Zelenskiy's comments came as China said that the United States was in no position to make demands, after the top U.S. diplomat warned his Chinese counterpart at the weekend against China providing weapons to Russia in its war in Ukraine.

    "For us, it is important that China does not support the Russian Federation in this war," Zelenskiy told German daily Die Welt. "In fact, I would like it to be on our side. At the moment, however, I don't think it's possible."
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
    What other scenarios are there?

    Because WW3 isn't NATO and the US versus Russia. That is called a curb stomping.

    And a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US wouldn't be WW3 either IMO. That would be the end of the world.
    Yeah, and I ask you would you respond to tactical nuke strikes against the Ukraine by Russia? Backing Putin into a corner is how you FAFO.
    I don't think Russia is going to resort to that. Wouldn't they have already done that to blow up Ukrainian fortresses like Vuhledar and Bahkmut?

    If Russian does use tactical nuclear strikes, it is because they can't get it done any other way - ever. I don't think they will, but if they do...I'm honestly not sure. What do you think would happen after that?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited February 2023
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    Since PGOS is more interested in reading press releases from the Ukrainians maybe this will help.

    Putin and Xi are meeting. US intelligence believes China may be willing to provide Putin “lethal aid” as they begin to shift on Ukraine. Blinken gave that assessment this week.

    Biden needs to act like a non-warmonger and instead call for a ceasefire and negotiations to end this.

    PGOS, your little hero in Ukraine was the guy talking WWIII.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Since PGOS is more interested in reading press releases from the Ukrainians maybe this will help.

    Putin and Xi are meeting. US intelligence believes China may be willing to provide Putin “lethal aid” as they begin to shift on Ukraine. Blinken gave that assessment this week.

    Biden needs to act like a non-warmonger and instead call for a ceasefire and negotiations to end this.

    PGOS, your little hero in Ukraine was the guy talking WWIII.

    China has already been more or less providing Russia with lethal aid. Someone has to give Russia computer chips they can't manufacture themselves, and have a hard time getting due to sanctions.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,415 Standard Supporter
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
    What other scenarios are there?

    Because WW3 isn't NATO and the US versus Russia. That is called a curb stomping.

    And a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US wouldn't be WW3 either IMO. That would be the end of the world.
    Yeah, and I ask you would you respond to tactical nuke strikes against the Ukraine by Russia? Backing Putin into a corner is how you FAFO.
    I don't think Russia is going to resort to that. Wouldn't they have already done that to blow up Ukrainian fortresses like Vuhledar and Bahkmut?

    If Russian does use tactical nuclear strikes, it is because they can't get it done any other way - ever. I don't think they will, but if they do...I'm honestly not sure. What do you think would happen after that?
    You have completely over estimated the Russian threat to Europe. There is zero threat to the US. So, you are supporting breaking the Russian military by kicking them out of the Ukraine and restoring the Crimea to Ukraine. And you give me "I don't think Russia is going to resort to that". And you are prepared to have a full scale nuclear exchange with Russia because that's in our best interest. It's like a religion with you.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    46XiJCAB said:

    Since PGOS is more interested in reading press releases from the Ukrainians maybe this will help.

    Putin and Xi are meeting. US intelligence believes China may be willing to provide Putin “lethal aid” as they begin to shift on Ukraine. Blinken gave that assessment this week.

    Biden needs to act like a non-warmonger and instead call for a ceasefire and negotiations to end this.

    PGOS, your little hero in Ukraine was the guy talking WWIII.

    China has already been more or less providing Russia with lethal aid. Someone has to give Russia computer chips they can't manufacture themselves, and have a hard time getting due to sanctions.
    No they have not. This is stupid. The Veggie has managed to push Russia and China closer together and you continue to talk about Russia getting their ass kicked.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,829 Founders Club
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I never said anything about a trap by the way. And the Biden administration didn't exist when Trump was impeached

    but still

    The perma government pulled the strings and now you're all dancing to the tune. Trump had to go to get Joe out of the basement and in front of the green screen. That's a fact. Ukraine is a bank for the corrupt.

    Can't wait for you guys to say the lap top was Putin disinformation. Or that all those kids like Hunter making millions from Ukraine energy firms actually earned it

    So Hunter making millions is why Putin invaded?

    You still fail to see that the reason for this invasion is because Putin wanted control of Ukraine. That's it. It's simple. He wants more land and resources.

    He didnt orchestrate this from some 5D perma government chess fork by the Deep State
    JFC

    Wake up sometime

    Or don't

    Don't put words on me I didn't say
    Why did Putin invade Ukraine?

    Speaking of waking up
    Nazi's and biolabs. Russians hate Nazi's. Biolabs on your border some run by the Bidens, wouldn't be allowed near our borders either. But you do you.
    Christ

    I was asking Race, not you. You're a fucking nut
    I'm not the nut in this discussion. There is nothing to Ukraine worth starting WWIII. You're gargling Biden balls though.
    1) WW3 is far from started
    2) I have never once in my life "gargled Biden's balls"

    Somehow, in your eyes calling Putin out for a massive blunder is sacrilegious. Why is that?
    Who told you WWIII is far from being started?
    Who told you that is is on the horizon?
    Nope. You claim it’s far away. Who told you?
    I don't specifically listen to one source on a subject like this. That is how you end up denying Russian losses by looking at a picture of blown up Russian tanks and commenting it can't be, they are orange.

    In order for WW3 to get kicked off, China would need to make a move on Taiwan, prompting the US, Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and friends to declare war on China.

    I don't see that happening, do you?

    Who told you that was the only scenario?
    What other scenarios are there?

    Because WW3 isn't NATO and the US versus Russia. That is called a curb stomping.

    And a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US wouldn't be WW3 either IMO. That would be the end of the world.
    Yeah, and I ask you would you respond to tactical nuke strikes against the Ukraine by Russia? Backing Putin into a corner is how you FAFO.
    I don't think Russia is going to resort to that. Wouldn't they have already done that to blow up Ukrainian fortresses like Vuhledar and Bahkmut?

    If Russian does use tactical nuclear strikes, it is because they can't get it done any other way - ever. I don't think they will, but if they do...I'm honestly not sure. What do you think would happen after that?
    You have completely over estimated the Russian threat to Europe. There is zero threat to the US. So, you are supporting breaking the Russian military by kicking them out of the Ukraine and restoring the Crimea to Ukraine. And you give me "I don't think Russia is going to resort to that". And you are prepared to have a full scale nuclear exchange with Russia because that's in our best interest. It's like a religion with you.
    No, I'm absolutely not advocating for a nuclear exchange for Russia. That's a bad scenario for everyone.

    FWIW I think the borders should go back to what they were in 2014. Let Russia keep Crimea and have the phony annexed states of DPR and LPR.

    If there is a way for Ukraine to militarily take back Crimea and Donestk/Luhansk that doesn't result in tactical nukes by Russia then great, but I think at that point Putin might just be unhinged enough to launch a few nukes to see what happens. I don't want that.

    Europe (and Obama) seemed fine with that at the time, which IMO was a mistake, but it is what it is. Trump called it what it is - violent expansionism - to his credit but obviously was skeptical of the Burisma situation.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
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    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Since PGOS is more interested in reading press releases from the Ukrainians maybe this will help.

    Putin and Xi are meeting. US intelligence believes China may be willing to provide Putin “lethal aid” as they begin to shift on Ukraine. Blinken gave that assessment this week.

    Biden needs to act like a non-warmonger and instead call for a ceasefire and negotiations to end this.

    PGOS, your little hero in Ukraine was the guy talking WWIII.

    China has already been more or less providing Russia with lethal aid. Someone has to give Russia computer chips they can't manufacture themselves, and have a hard time getting due to sanctions.
    No they have not. This is stupid. The Veggie has managed to push Russia and China closer together and you continue to talk about Russia getting their ass kicked.
    Russia and China aren't friends. Why do you think they are?

    Just because Xi is meeting with Putin doesn't mean they are best friends. They have a mutual rival in the US, NATO, frankly the rest of the world, but they are rivals themselves. China would love to control the eastern 2/3rds of Russia.

    China came out today with a list of suggestions on the war. The first suggestion is a ceasefire. They aren't exactly gearing up the landing boats for a Taiwan Special Military operation. Which would go even more poorly than Russia's.