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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,685
    46XiJCAB said:

    I remember when Russia tried to put Nukes 90 miles from Florida. The US didn’t like that very much. Nearly led to nuclear war. But NATO courting Ukraine shouldn’t concern Russia.

    Action>>>>>Reaction.

    Right or wrong, to ignore this fact is ignorant.

    Russia propaganda!

    Simple minded retort.

    We actually helped pull nukes from Ukraine so this analogy makes no sense

    NATO is a defensive treaty designed to prevent....Russian invasions
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,685
    edited March 2023
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops

    So is there tipping point in time and money that would change your opinion? If so give those amounts so we can re-examine this thing when it inevitably gets past those targets and we just need a little more time and money.
    This is a good question. I appreciate your responses to this thread, you are actually a critical thinker.

    To be honest, Im not sure. I am fine with this status quo.

    I do not think we should give Ukriane fighter jets, pension dollars, etc.

    Im fine with old tanks, autocannons, artillery shells etc. Im fine with us producing more to supply them with these type of items.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    I remember when Russia tried to put Nukes 90 miles from Florida. The US didn’t like that very much. Nearly led to nuclear war. But NATO courting Ukraine shouldn’t concern Russia.

    Action>>>>>Reaction.

    Right or wrong, to ignore this fact is ignorant.

    Russia propaganda!

    Simple minded retort.

    We actually helped pull nukes from Ukraine so this analogy makes no sense

    NATO is a defensive treaty designed to prevent....Russian invasions
    I knew it would fly over your head. It’s not about the nukes alone. It was about putting a threat 90 miles from the US.

    But Russia viewing a NATO aligned Ukraine as a potential threat can not even be a consideration.

    This is where you scream.........

    Russia Propaganda!
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,288 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    You said earlier that NATO could wipe them out in 3 days if they actually wanted to. Assuming that is true, then we really have nothing to worry about.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops

    So is there tipping point in time and money that would change your opinion? If so give those amounts so we can re-examine this thing when it inevitably gets past those targets and we just need a little more time and money.
    This is a good question. I appreciate your responses to this thread, you are actually a critical thinker.

    To be honest, Im not sure. I am fine with this status quo.

    I do not think we should give Ukriane fighter jets, pension dollars, etc.

    Im fine with old tanks, autocannons, artillery shells etc. Im fine with us producing more to supply them with these type of items.
    You seeing yourself as some critical thinker is some funny shit.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    You said earlier that NATO could wipe them out in 3 days if they actually wanted to. Assuming that is true, then we really have nothing to worry about.
    Former NATO General said last year they were no where near ready to engage Russia in Ukraine.

    But Still.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,685
    Bob_C said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    You said earlier that NATO could wipe them out in 3 days if they actually wanted to. Assuming that is true, then we really have nothing to worry about.

    It would involve massive casualties for the US and NATO countries.

    No one wants that.

    And, it might lead to nukes.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,685
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I remember when Russia tried to put Nukes 90 miles from Florida. The US didn’t like that very much. Nearly led to nuclear war. But NATO courting Ukraine shouldn’t concern Russia.

    Action>>>>>Reaction.

    Right or wrong, to ignore this fact is ignorant.

    Russia propaganda!

    Simple minded retort.

    We actually helped pull nukes from Ukraine so this analogy makes no sense

    NATO is a defensive treaty designed to prevent....Russian invasions
    I knew it would fly over your head. It’s not about the nukes alone. It was about putting a threat 90 miles from the US.

    But Russia viewing a NATO aligned Ukraine as a potential threat can not even be a consideration.

    This is where you scream.........

    Russia Propaganda!
    Like I said, completely delusional Russian propaganda.

    NATO is not an aggressor.

    It has never been an aggressor.

    It helped stopped genocide in Serbia/Bosnia.

    I'm sure you also hated that.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I remember when Russia tried to put Nukes 90 miles from Florida. The US didn’t like that very much. Nearly led to nuclear war. But NATO courting Ukraine shouldn’t concern Russia.

    Action>>>>>Reaction.

    Right or wrong, to ignore this fact is ignorant.

    Russia propaganda!

    Simple minded retort.

    We actually helped pull nukes from Ukraine so this analogy makes no sense

    NATO is a defensive treaty designed to prevent....Russian invasions
    I knew it would fly over your head. It’s not about the nukes alone. It was about putting a threat 90 miles from the US.

    But Russia viewing a NATO aligned Ukraine as a potential threat can not even be a consideration.

    This is where you scream.........

    Russia Propaganda!
    Like I said, completely delusional Russian propaganda.

    NATO is not an aggressor.

    It has never been an aggressor.

    It helped stopped genocide in Serbia/Bosnia.

    I'm sure you also hated that.
    Yes they also did a bag up job in Rwanda. There’s only one propagandist here and he’s too ignorant to see it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,685
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I remember when Russia tried to put Nukes 90 miles from Florida. The US didn’t like that very much. Nearly led to nuclear war. But NATO courting Ukraine shouldn’t concern Russia.

    Action>>>>>Reaction.

    Right or wrong, to ignore this fact is ignorant.

    Russia propaganda!

    Simple minded retort.

    We actually helped pull nukes from Ukraine so this analogy makes no sense

    NATO is a defensive treaty designed to prevent....Russian invasions
    I knew it would fly over your head. It’s not about the nukes alone. It was about putting a threat 90 miles from the US.

    But Russia viewing a NATO aligned Ukraine as a potential threat can not even be a consideration.

    This is where you scream.........

    Russia Propaganda!
    Like I said, completely delusional Russian propaganda.

    NATO is not an aggressor.

    It has never been an aggressor.

    It helped stopped genocide in Serbia/Bosnia.

    I'm sure you also hated that.
    Yes they also did a bag up job in Rwanda. There’s only one propagandist here and he’s too ignorant to see it.
    That was the UN and a travesty.

    You need to learn to not equate every situation to a past one. They are all different