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Grow up and learn the difference between the internet and real life kidPostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
2014 was the Obama CIA. Same folks who are willing to destroy democracy to save it from Trump
Ukrainians are dying to protect the Biden Obama Clinton and McConnell family fortunes
Putin didn't do shit under Trump. Another inconvenient fact for you
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Shutting down businesses wouldn’t have been possible without paying off the proles with extended unemployment and cash handouts. Business would have never agreed without the PPP. You are a bit slow on this issue.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Tic tac toeBob_C said:
Checkers.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Printing money was the least of the problems brought on by covidBob_C said:
Who said anything about covid? But since we are on the topic there was also overwhelming bi-partisian support for printing covid money which is what enabled the local tyranny to be justified.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A lot of the experts did not agree on covidBob_C said:
All the experts agree, have we seen this before?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine has overwhelming bipartisan supportRaceBannon said:
And UkrainePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
Thanks for playing
Afghanistan was DNC idiocy at its finest
The money is what allowed everything else to happen. End of discussion.
Shutting down businesses was the bigger economic issue. -
Correction.
115 pages. -
Anybody else noticing a trend?Bob_C said:
Shutting down businesses wouldn’t have been possible without paying off the proles with extended unemployment and cash handouts. Business would have never agreed without the PPP. You are a bit slow on this issue.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Tic tac toeBob_C said:
Checkers.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Printing money was the least of the problems brought on by covidBob_C said:
Who said anything about covid? But since we are on the topic there was also overwhelming bi-partisian support for printing covid money which is what enabled the local tyranny to be justified.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A lot of the experts did not agree on covidBob_C said:
All the experts agree, have we seen this before?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine has overwhelming bipartisan supportRaceBannon said:
And UkrainePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
Thanks for playing
Afghanistan was DNC idiocy at its finest
The money is what allowed everything else to happen. End of discussion.
Shutting down businesses was the bigger economic issue.
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We agree that Putin wouldn't have invaded with a strong US president. So, what is the end game? In your view, the Ukraine forces Russia out of the Ukraine. With the dementia patient as the weakest US president since Carter what is the end game. Putin concedes and goes back as an embarrassed former Russian strong man? If Putin goes to tactical nukes then we respond and blow up the world and declare a great moral victory? Just like the current Ukrainian moral victory. Billions for Ukrainian oligarchs, ten million refugees, hundreds of thousands dead and massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/104410/can-we-offer-this-ukranian-solider-a-scholarship/p114
HMM: Catastrophic Success: What if the Ukrainian Counteroffensive Achieves More than Expected?
If the counteroffensive is surprisingly successful, Putin will be forced to respond in one of two ways—negotiation or escalation. Given Putin’s belief in the value of a long-game scenario, his willingness to absorb significant costs, and the potentially disastrous domestic political consequences of unfavorable negotiations, it is more likely than not that Putin would choose escalation. In a situation where Russian forces are routed, Putin would face only two realistic escalation options: throw more human bodies at the Ukrainians or use a nuclear weapon.
In the case of the former option, Russia already appears to be preparing new rounds of mobilizations, with the Wagner Group restarting troop recruitment from Russian prisons. However, as was recently seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, new Russian soldiers are poorly trained. Conscripts are thus often killed in droves—and not even the Russians have an infinite supply of human lives. New recruits could slow the tide of a Ukrainian advance, but if momentum is on Ukraine’s side, it may be unlikely these new recruits could decisively weigh in Russia’s favor.
That leaves nuclear escalation. -
He hated on page one that he has no endgame. The time constraint is as long as it takes. Great ROI on an indefinite time period though.WestlinnDuck said:
We agree that Putin wouldn't have invaded with a strong US president. So, what is the end game? In your view, the Ukraine forces Russia out of the Ukraine. With the dementia patient as the weakest US president since Carter what is the end game. Putin concedes and goes back as an embarrassed former Russian strong man? If Putin goes to tactical nukes then we respond and blow up the world and declare a great moral victory? Just like the current Ukrainian moral victory. Billions for Ukrainian oligarchs, ten million refugees, hundreds of thousands dead and massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/104410/can-we-offer-this-ukranian-solider-a-scholarship/p114
HMM: Catastrophic Success: What if the Ukrainian Counteroffensive Achieves More than Expected?
If the counteroffensive is surprisingly successful, Putin will be forced to respond in one of two ways—negotiation or escalation. Given Putin’s belief in the value of a long-game scenario, his willingness to absorb significant costs, and the potentially disastrous domestic political consequences of unfavorable negotiations, it is more likely than not that Putin would choose escalation. In a situation where Russian forces are routed, Putin would face only two realistic escalation options: throw more human bodies at the Ukrainians or use a nuclear weapon.
In the case of the former option, Russia already appears to be preparing new rounds of mobilizations, with the Wagner Group restarting troop recruitment from Russian prisons. However, as was recently seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, new Russian soldiers are poorly trained. Conscripts are thus often killed in droves—and not even the Russians have an infinite supply of human lives. New recruits could slow the tide of a Ukrainian advance, but if momentum is on Ukraine’s side, it may be unlikely these new recruits could decisively weigh in Russia’s favor.
That leaves nuclear escalation. -
Good poastWestlinnDuck said:
We agree that Putin wouldn't have invaded with a strong US president. So, what is the end game? In your view, the Ukraine forces Russia out of the Ukraine. With the dementia patient as the weakest US president since Carter what is the end game. Putin concedes and goes back as an embarrassed former Russian strong man? If Putin goes to tactical nukes then we respond and blow up the world and declare a great moral victory? Just like the current Ukrainian moral victory. Billions for Ukrainian oligarchs, ten million refugees, hundreds of thousands dead and massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/104410/can-we-offer-this-ukranian-solider-a-scholarship/p114
HMM: Catastrophic Success: What if the Ukrainian Counteroffensive Achieves More than Expected?
If the counteroffensive is surprisingly successful, Putin will be forced to respond in one of two ways—negotiation or escalation. Given Putin’s belief in the value of a long-game scenario, his willingness to absorb significant costs, and the potentially disastrous domestic political consequences of unfavorable negotiations, it is more likely than not that Putin would choose escalation. In a situation where Russian forces are routed, Putin would face only two realistic escalation options: throw more human bodies at the Ukrainians or use a nuclear weapon.
In the case of the former option, Russia already appears to be preparing new rounds of mobilizations, with the Wagner Group restarting troop recruitment from Russian prisons. However, as was recently seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, new Russian soldiers are poorly trained. Conscripts are thus often killed in droves—and not even the Russians have an infinite supply of human lives. New recruits could slow the tide of a Ukrainian advance, but if momentum is on Ukraine’s side, it may be unlikely these new recruits could decisively weigh in Russia’s favor.
That leaves nuclear escalation.
I personally think that if Russia gets further humiliated, Putin is door. Ass. Out.
Speaking of suicided, he would be done. They could even say it was due to deteriorating health.
I think the next scenario, which is very unlikely, is that Russia uses a small tactical nuke in a city like Bahkmut or Soledae
R (small ish but heavily fortified) to test what the international reaction will be...it would not be pretty and it will guarantee Russia as an international outcast. China does not want nuclear weapons to be used. Why would they? It benefits no one and is insanely risky.
Then, the big nuclear strike scenario. Russia nukes Kyiv, Kherson, Odessa, etc. They finally get that evil Jewish Nazi (el oh el) whos been beating Putin's ass as a leader and tactician. This would draw NATO into the conflict and would be the end of Russia as we know it. It would not be pretty and nukes would fly on both sides.
Russia does not want that scenario. Plenty of oligarchs and FSBs types that want to rule a Russia who got humbled by Ukraine, not a smoldering corpse, would not let this happen. I dont think anyone would obey the commands to launch nukes. I think this has 0% chance of happening.
My 2 cents -
Real world he starts small with tactical nukes. He is already a world pariah and that doesn't seem to bother him. US threatens to retaliate with tactical nukes. Putin tells the dementia patient and his commie advisors that if Russian troops are killed with US nukes he is going to take out the big US base in Ramstein, Germany. US troops for the tens of thousands of Russian troops killed with US and NATO weapons. Then what? Further escalation for some dead US troops in Germany while the US is still safe? Seems like a negotiated settlement would be the sane thing to have done a year ago.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good poastWestlinnDuck said:
We agree that Putin wouldn't have invaded with a strong US president. So, what is the end game? In your view, the Ukraine forces Russia out of the Ukraine. With the dementia patient as the weakest US president since Carter what is the end game. Putin concedes and goes back as an embarrassed former Russian strong man? If Putin goes to tactical nukes then we respond and blow up the world and declare a great moral victory? Just like the current Ukrainian moral victory. Billions for Ukrainian oligarchs, ten million refugees, hundreds of thousands dead and massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/104410/can-we-offer-this-ukranian-solider-a-scholarship/p114
HMM: Catastrophic Success: What if the Ukrainian Counteroffensive Achieves More than Expected?
If the counteroffensive is surprisingly successful, Putin will be forced to respond in one of two ways—negotiation or escalation. Given Putin’s belief in the value of a long-game scenario, his willingness to absorb significant costs, and the potentially disastrous domestic political consequences of unfavorable negotiations, it is more likely than not that Putin would choose escalation. In a situation where Russian forces are routed, Putin would face only two realistic escalation options: throw more human bodies at the Ukrainians or use a nuclear weapon.
In the case of the former option, Russia already appears to be preparing new rounds of mobilizations, with the Wagner Group restarting troop recruitment from Russian prisons. However, as was recently seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, new Russian soldiers are poorly trained. Conscripts are thus often killed in droves—and not even the Russians have an infinite supply of human lives. New recruits could slow the tide of a Ukrainian advance, but if momentum is on Ukraine’s side, it may be unlikely these new recruits could decisively weigh in Russia’s favor.
That leaves nuclear escalation.
I personally think that if Russia gets further humiliated, Putin is door. Ass. Out.
Speaking of suicided, he would be done. They could even say it was due to deteriorating health.
I think the next scenario, which is very unlikely, is that Russia uses a small tactical nuke in a city like Bahkmut or Soledae
R (small ish but heavily fortified) to test what the international reaction will be...it would not be pretty and it will guarantee Russia as an international outcast. China does not want nuclear weapons to be used. Why would they? It benefits no one and is insanely risky.
Then, the big nuclear strike scenario. Russia nukes Kyiv, Kherson, Odessa, etc. They finally get that evil Jewish Nazi (el oh el) whos been beating Putin's ass as a leader and tactician. This would draw NATO into the conflict and would be the end of Russia as we know it. It would not be pretty and nukes would fly on both sides.
Russia does not want that scenario. Plenty of oligarchs and FSBs types that want to rule a Russia who got humbled by Ukraine, not a smoldering corpse, would not let this happen. I dont think anyone would obey the commands to launch nukes. I think this has 0% chance of happening.
My 2 cents -
PGOS supports all the bio labs and the money laundering that goes to the demonrat party. Loves it he does. What's in those biolabs? The Russians know.
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There's no MIC money or CIA victory dance in peace.WestlinnDuck said:
Real world he starts small with tactical nukes. He is already a world pariah and that doesn't seem to bother him. US threatens to retaliate with tactical nukes. Putin tells the dementia patient and his commie advisors that if Russian troops are killed with US nukes he is going to take out the big US base in Ramstein, Germany. US troops for the tens of thousands of Russian troops killed with US and NATO weapons. Then what? Further escalation for some dead US troops in Germany while the US is still safe? Seems like a negotiated settlement would be the sane thing to have done a year ago.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good poastWestlinnDuck said:
We agree that Putin wouldn't have invaded with a strong US president. So, what is the end game? In your view, the Ukraine forces Russia out of the Ukraine. With the dementia patient as the weakest US president since Carter what is the end game. Putin concedes and goes back as an embarrassed former Russian strong man? If Putin goes to tactical nukes then we respond and blow up the world and declare a great moral victory? Just like the current Ukrainian moral victory. Billions for Ukrainian oligarchs, ten million refugees, hundreds of thousands dead and massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I agree that he likely wouldnt have invaded with Trump as PresidentRaceBannon said:
That's completely inaccuratePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Biden isnt in charge of anything in Ukrainepawz said:
So after that you thought he was up for the job in Ukraine?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
A+ logic.
The US would be doing the same thing with Trump or nearly anyone else as Preaident
Afghanistan withdrawal, on the other hand, was all his admins doing
Putin didn't do shit when Trump was president
He was scared. Biden and Obama reek of weakness. And here we are protecting the graft of the families
It's all bullshit. Follow the money kid
But if he did, Trump would be supplying them with weapons.
Since 2014 the US has had advisors on the ground on Ukraine, training them. The US has sold them tons of weapons. Including during 2016 through 2020.
Why do you think Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight with 200k Russians dead? Its not because they sat around jerking off after Russia took Crimea
Get with the times grandpa
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/104410/can-we-offer-this-ukranian-solider-a-scholarship/p114
HMM: Catastrophic Success: What if the Ukrainian Counteroffensive Achieves More than Expected?
If the counteroffensive is surprisingly successful, Putin will be forced to respond in one of two ways—negotiation or escalation. Given Putin’s belief in the value of a long-game scenario, his willingness to absorb significant costs, and the potentially disastrous domestic political consequences of unfavorable negotiations, it is more likely than not that Putin would choose escalation. In a situation where Russian forces are routed, Putin would face only two realistic escalation options: throw more human bodies at the Ukrainians or use a nuclear weapon.
In the case of the former option, Russia already appears to be preparing new rounds of mobilizations, with the Wagner Group restarting troop recruitment from Russian prisons. However, as was recently seen in Bakhmut and elsewhere, new Russian soldiers are poorly trained. Conscripts are thus often killed in droves—and not even the Russians have an infinite supply of human lives. New recruits could slow the tide of a Ukrainian advance, but if momentum is on Ukraine’s side, it may be unlikely these new recruits could decisively weigh in Russia’s favor.
That leaves nuclear escalation.
I personally think that if Russia gets further humiliated, Putin is door. Ass. Out.
Speaking of suicided, he would be done. They could even say it was due to deteriorating health.
I think the next scenario, which is very unlikely, is that Russia uses a small tactical nuke in a city like Bahkmut or Soledae
R (small ish but heavily fortified) to test what the international reaction will be...it would not be pretty and it will guarantee Russia as an international outcast. China does not want nuclear weapons to be used. Why would they? It benefits no one and is insanely risky.
Then, the big nuclear strike scenario. Russia nukes Kyiv, Kherson, Odessa, etc. They finally get that evil Jewish Nazi (el oh el) whos been beating Putin's ass as a leader and tactician. This would draw NATO into the conflict and would be the end of Russia as we know it. It would not be pretty and nukes would fly on both sides.
Russia does not want that scenario. Plenty of oligarchs and FSBs types that want to rule a Russia who got humbled by Ukraine, not a smoldering corpse, would not let this happen. I dont think anyone would obey the commands to launch nukes. I think this has 0% chance of happening.
My 2 cents
C'mon, man. Putin bad. Russia bad. Must destroy.
Get the rhythm. Music is about to start in Pakistan, too.
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I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch -
Yeah...so did Iraq...we? doing that again?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine has overwhelming bipartisan supportRaceBannon said:
And UkrainePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
Thanks for playing
Afghanistan was DNC idiocy at its finest -
No US troops on the ground other than some CIA goons advisingRoadTrip said:
Yeah...so did Iraq...we? doing that again?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine has overwhelming bipartisan supportRaceBannon said:
And UkrainePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Everything the US does is not the result of the President.RaceBannon said:
Your arguments suck harder than you do and have been shreddedPostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Unlike Russia
Imagine thinking Biden won anything. Fucking retard
Biden fucking sucks. Look no further than Afghanistan withdrawal
Thanks for playing
Afghanistan was DNC idiocy at its finest
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0 US livesRoadTrip said:
I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Ukrainian's? As much as they see fit, I guess
The money thing is interesting, because again a lot of the shit being given to Ukraine was headed towards a rusty grave in a scrapyard. Book value was highly depreciated. I dont know the answer.
I do think setting a precedent that war in Europe is no longer acceptable is important for the US. Ukraine is definitely the Bama of Europe, but it's still Europe -
I wasn't aware that war in Europe was a big problem. You supported the last one started by NATO
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It was not started by NATO Race. It was started by Serbians in Yugoslavia.RaceBannon said:I wasn't aware that war in Europe was a big problem. You supported the last one started by NATO
NATO got involved when the Serbs couldnt help but ethnic clense the Bosnians and Croats. -
Who gives a fuck if the military stuff is old or new. If new po’s need to be written to backfill it then there is a real cost and a higher one probably.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
0 US livesRoadTrip said:
I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Ukrainian's? As much as they see fit, I guess
The money thing is interesting, because again a lot of the shit being given to Ukraine was headed towards a rusty grave in a scrapyard. Book value was highly depreciated. I dont know the answer.
I do think setting a precedent that war in Europe is no longer acceptable is important for the US. Ukraine is definitely the Bama of Europe, but it's still Europe -
A lot of that shit is already getting replaced. Like Bradleys and old AbramsBob_C said:
Who gives a fuck if the military stuff is old or new. If new po’s need to be written to backfill it then there is a real cost and a higher one probably.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
0 US livesRoadTrip said:
I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Ukrainian's? As much as they see fit, I guess
The money thing is interesting, because again a lot of the shit being given to Ukraine was headed towards a rusty grave in a scrapyard. Book value was highly depreciated. I dont know the answer.
I do think setting a precedent that war in Europe is no longer acceptable is important for the US. Ukraine is definitely the Bama of Europe, but it's still Europe -
Sincerely,PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A lot of that shit is already getting replaced. Like Bradleys and old AbramsBob_C said:
Who gives a fuck if the military stuff is old or new. If new po’s need to be written to backfill it then there is a real cost and a higher one probably.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
0 US livesRoadTrip said:
I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Ukrainian's? As much as they see fit, I guess
The money thing is interesting, because again a lot of the shit being given to Ukraine was headed towards a rusty grave in a scrapyard. Book value was highly depreciated. I dont know the answer.
I do think setting a precedent that war in Europe is no longer acceptable is important for the US. Ukraine is definitely the Bama of Europe, but it's still Europe
Military Industrial Complex.
JFC. Like fucking Cal Worthington moving the old models off the lot to bring in the new inventory.
Get the Tru-Coat, too.
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Yeah Throbber. The US military shouldnt invent and make new stuff. BrilliantPurpleThrobber said:
Sincerely,PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A lot of that shit is already getting replaced. Like Bradleys and old AbramsBob_C said:
Who gives a fuck if the military stuff is old or new. If new po’s need to be written to backfill it then there is a real cost and a higher one probably.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
0 US livesRoadTrip said:
I've read everything you've posted and even defended some of your takes but just how much money, time and lives is it going to take? You said this should be rather easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He's not my hero, bitchRaceBannon said:
You started it because you have no argumentPostGameOrangeSlices said:
When faced with facts about your hero you dodge and deflect
Just calling it like I see it
Cocksucker
I didnt start it you geriatric fuck
Ive posted pages of arguments that get ignored by you retards.
Enjoy coping with the fact that America runs the fucking world and Russia is a backwater hellhole that cant even project power a mile from its border against fucking UKRAINE.
Isolationism is dead, cunt. America won.
And no, Russia isnt nuking shit. Bitch
Ukrainian's? As much as they see fit, I guess
The money thing is interesting, because again a lot of the shit being given to Ukraine was headed towards a rusty grave in a scrapyard. Book value was highly depreciated. I dont know the answer.
I do think setting a precedent that war in Europe is no longer acceptable is important for the US. Ukraine is definitely the Bama of Europe, but it's still Europe
Military Industrial Complex.
JFC. Like fucking Cal Worthington moving the old models off the lot to bring in the new inventory.
Get the Tru-Coat, too.
