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China is the real world problem. Yet the American dems and Tug leftards are all in on Putin and the Russians. Dems are fine with all the chicom coal plants dumping CO2 and mercury into the atmosphere and strip mining the oceans but no Keystone XL pipeline for us.

What does ”appeasing” Russia mean, Big Brain?

You’re the one cheerleading for even more death with the status quo.

Again, you’re talking to a fucking idiot.

He has no idea what he wants in this other than to look stupid and troll the Tug. That’s it. That’s H.

How does Ukraine win this war, H, and what does winning it look like at the end?

Answer a question for once.

There is some merit to that argument but after 3 years, would you not agree that it is seeing the law of diminishing returns? In other words, if the USA sends another $60 or $70 billion a year, will it degrade Russia's capability to wage war more than that money did in 2022, 2023, or 2024? I would say no.

I would also argue that Communist China is the much bigger threat to the USA and allies in the Pacific than Russia is to our allies in Europe. We have provided substantially more financial and military support to Ukraine than any other country. If Ukraine needs $150 billion a year to continue fighting Russia, why can't Europe provide that in 2026 and beyond? Of course if Europe was really serious about ending this war, they would risk their own soldiers too (about 30,000 would do) but they don't have the stomach for it. Hence, they want the USA to keep pumping tens of billions in so they don't have to.

I also think it's disingenuous of Zelinkskyy to lecture the Trump administration on the war when he refuses to drop the draft age to 21. When the USA was attacked by Japan at the beginning of WWII, the draft age was 18 but pretty much every able bodied male enlisted because they wanted revenge.

If so many Ukrainians don't want to fight, why should the USA continue borrowing money to send it over there?

H trying to pivot to realpolitik 3 years later. Fucking doofus.

This argument made sense then. Now? Not so much.

Russia has largely been neutered at this point. They aren't invading anyone else for a decade or more...if they survive as a country.

US coldwar stockpiles have largely been depleted. It's time to restock and rearm for the Pacific.

The Euros have completely failed in their promises. They either should have been splashing cash at US arms manufacturers or building out their own capacity. They did neither at scale. Let them foot the bill now if they want.

No, I genuinely believe that @HHusky is not a good person and would say it to his fat ass.

How many years and millions of deaths are enough for a stalemate? The only way Ukraine gets it's land back is if US troops go in... do you really want that? And yeah US troops openly shooting Russian Troops would go over great in the Kremlin.