Pete’s Don James moment
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I work with a lot of UGA alum.creepycoug said:
Agreed. In retrospect he was a good enough coach to put together decent seasons, no more, and occasionally do better than that. 10-2 made all of Cane nation bite. And as you know, I'm a sucker for a good recruiter, because you have to have that anyway.RaceBannon said:
Counter argument is that if Richt needed to fire his staff he should have been fired anywaycreepycoug said:
That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."UWhuskytskeet said:Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.
Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."
Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.
But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.
7-6 is what we had when we got Pete. There's a jump to 10 wins then a bigger jump to 12-15
Richt could manage to have a losing record in a season at Georgia.
But some guys just can't put it together, and in Richt's case, he seemed to have effectively retired to Miami when he took the job. Which explains why he punked out when it got hard. He didn't come to Miami for hard. He came to Miami to retire.
Which is why I'm leary of old guys at the HC spot. It's not a fun job. You need to be hungry. He was not. I'm skeptical about whether Davis part II would be hungry enough. He's old now too.
It was always fun to listen to them support Richt.
He was the college version of Marty Schottenheimer. Good enough to give you hope, good enough to get right to the door ... but he couldn't kick it in.
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Fuck, race you da man!!!RaceBannon said:Here is how Maryland hung 50 on Ohio State throwing 13 passes
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What I can’t tell is how many of the RPO’s called did Browning chose to throw vs run on his own? In the first series of the RB for example, we run off tackle for 6, then swing it to the flat on the second play and got stoned. Throughout the year, Pete seemed pissed about the decision making on the RPOs. Begs the question if they were frustrated, why didn’t they call fewer RPOs? IDK
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Fuck Pete's execution bullshit. I hope he's looking in the mirror, because the coaching staff needs to execute better.
First offensive series: Toss sweep to Gaskin for a 6-yard gain, followed by two shit pass plays, and a punt. That's on you and Hamdan... & continuing to rely on a very limited signal-caller.
Fuck you and the "we need to execute better" bullshit, Pete. -
So Alabama game was not Pete’s Don James moment? How many moments does he need
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It takes a minute.WeakarmCobra said:So Alabama game was not Pete’s Don James moment? How many moments does he need
It's hard.
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Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see. -
Coach speak. "I have a five point plan" yadda yadda yaddaUWhuskytskeet said:Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.
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He not charging his offense thoughHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
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No coach is perfect. My contention is that Pete with a real QB and a pass rush is good enough to beat anybody, even with this offense.WeakarmCobra said:
He not charging his offense thoughHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
We'll see.
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Except that James could beat better teams from day 1 and did. Right up to Oklahoma in the 84 Orange Bowl the year before he got boat raced by BamaHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
In 86 we blew out Ohio State while floundering in the Pac
Pete isn't beating good teams and has a hell of a lot easier schedule that we used to now that we don't play the LA schools that much and get a steady diet of Pac 12 dreck
Pete isn't working that's the point. We don't need to wait 15 years for him to figure it out
People really did want to fire James. Pete gets his cocked sucked all over campus for not being Urban Meyer or Nick Satan and winning our shitty little league and ALMOST winning our bowl games
He needs a fucking mirror now. He isn't getting fired nor should he but he needs to change. -
Shame on us for expecting a winner-a coach with the balls to make the hard choices needed to win.ApostleofGrief said:
This is the legendary DON JAMES ANALOGY. I've lobbied for this to stop! He is a statue, and not coming back in the form of somebody else! Jesus. Every coach except Neuheisel and Sark was supposed to be in the mold of DJ.WilburHooksHands said:Plenty has been said on here about James realizing he had to get with the times. It may be earlier in his Husky career, but this is Pete’s. Browning was recruited to run his old bullshit offense. That time is over and if we dont totally overhaul the offense this offseason the program is over.
A coach who will:
Replace under performing coaches
Adjust offensive schemes and defensive philosophies to maximize results with the talent on the roster
Recruiting and signing the best players at EVERY position
Abstaining from intoxicants on, and the night before, game day
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Since the whole Don James thing is basically a meme now (Hi Ecklund) let me expand
When Owens won the back to back Rose Bowls he created a monster here. UW has always been serious about football but usually mediocre at it with a once a decade run to the Rose Bowl. Owens got fans thinking nationally and the nation paying attention
Even though Owens would descend into a career of losing and race wars and the Huskies became forgotten the fans didn't forget.
When James beat UCLA and USC his first year it meant something. Same losers that couldn't beat off were playing Cal for the Rose Bowl that year.
Beating Michigan in the 78 Rose and Texas in the 79 Sun were big wins. Winning 2 more league titles and the Orange Bowl year cemented him as a big game coach
He lost a ton of little games including two Apple Cups that cost us Rose Bowls. Good thing there wasn't an internet then but fans were pissed. You could hear it in the stands
His now fabled wake up call was about 5 years too late. That's the only point I have about Petersen now - he didn't get the early big wins but he did get the little ones. What he has done in 5 years is as much as we could expect and less than we hoped once we saw what he could do.
HE CAN BE BETTER THAN DON JAMES AND THAT IS THE GOAL
Nothing WE do matters but look at how our bullshit got back to Browning. Someone has to keep the pressure on and the eternal flame of national bullies burning.
If not us who? If not now when? -
We are too conservative when we should be aggressive (at their 38 and we had 4th and about 4... we punted) and we are way way too aggressive when we shouldn’t (end of the half)
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I'm hard as a diamond in an ice storm.RaceBannon said:Since the whole Don James thing is basically a meme now (Hi Ecklund) let me expand
When Owens won the back to back Rose Bowls he created a monster here. UW has always been serious about football but usually mediocre at it with a once a decade run to the Rose Bowl. Owens got fans thinking nationally and the nation paying attention
Even though Owens would descend into a career of losing and race wars and the Huskies became forgotten the fans didn't forget.
When James beat UCLA and USC his first year it meant something. Same losers that couldn't beat off were playing Cal for the Rose Bowl that year.
Beating Michigan in the 78 Rose and Texas in the 79 Sun were big wins. Winning 2 more league titles and the Orange Bowl year cemented him as a big game coach
He lost a ton of little games including two Apple Cups that cost us Rose Bowls. Good thing there wasn't an internet then but fans were pissed. You could hear it in the stands
His now fabled wake up call was about 5 years too late. That's the only point I have about Petersen now - he didn't get the early big wins but he did get the little ones. What he has done in 5 years is as much as we could expect and less than we hoped once we saw what he could do.
HE CAN BE BETTER THAN DON JAMES AND THAT IS THE GOAL
Nothing WE do matters but look at how our bullshit got back to Browning. Someone has to keep the pressure on and the eternal flame of national bullies burning.
If not us who? If not now when? -
Swaye said:
I'm hard as a diamond in an ice storm.RaceBannon said:Since the whole Don James thing is basically a meme now (Hi Ecklund) let me expand
When Owens won the back to back Rose Bowls he created a monster here. UW has always been serious about football but usually mediocre at it with a once a decade run to the Rose Bowl. Owens got fans thinking nationally and the nation paying attention
Even though Owens would descend into a career of losing and race wars and the Huskies became forgotten the fans didn't forget.
When James beat UCLA and USC his first year it meant something. Same losers that couldn't beat off were playing Cal for the Rose Bowl that year.
Beating Michigan in the 78 Rose and Texas in the 79 Sun were big wins. Winning 2 more league titles and the Orange Bowl year cemented him as a big game coach
He lost a ton of little games including two Apple Cups that cost us Rose Bowls. Good thing there wasn't an internet then but fans were pissed. You could hear it in the stands
His now fabled wake up call was about 5 years too late. That's the only point I have about Petersen now - he didn't get the early big wins but he did get the little ones. What he has done in 5 years is as much as we could expect and less than we hoped once we saw what he could do.
HE CAN BE BETTER THAN DON JAMES AND THAT IS THE GOAL
Nothing WE do matters but look at how our bullshit got back to Browning. Someone has to keep the pressure on and the eternal flame of national bullies burning.
If not us who? If not now when?
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RaceBannon said:
Since the whole Don James thing is basically a meme now (Hi Ecklund) let me expand
When Owens won the back to back Rose Bowls he created a monster here. UW has always been serious about football but usually mediocre at it with a once a decade run to the Rose Bowl. Owens got fans thinking nationally and the nation paying attention
Even though Owens would descend into a career of losing and race wars and the Huskies became forgotten the fans didn't forget.
When James beat UCLA and USC his first year it meant something. Same losers that couldn't beat off were playing Cal for the Rose Bowl that year.
Beating Michigan in the 78 Rose and Texas in the 79 Sun were big wins. Winning 2 more league titles and the Orange Bowl year cemented him as a big game coach
He lost a ton of little games including two Apple Cups that cost us Rose Bowls. Good thing there wasn't an internet then but fans were pissed. You could hear it in the stands
His now fabled wake up call was about 5 years too late. That's the only point I have about Petersen now - he didn't get the early big wins but he did get the little ones. What he has done in 5 years is as much as we could expect and less than we hoped once we saw what he could do.
HE CAN BE BETTER THAN DON JAMES AND THAT IS THE GOAL
Nothing WE do matters but look at how our bullshit got back to Browning. Someone has to keep the pressure on and the eternal flame of national bullies burning.
If not us who? If not now when?
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HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
I've been about halfway on the wagon since September. I get frustrated with the calls, but there has always been something in the back of my mind that it's limitations that make Bush call dumb plays.
I also wonder how many RPO's were called with intent to run Gaskin but Browning held it and then threw it instead.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/51310/we-know-our-offense-is-shit-but#latest -
If the talent gives the playbooks limitations then you need to figure out what works, even if it means severely limiting the playbook.DoogCourics said:HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
I've been about halfway on the wagon since September. I get frustrated with the calls, but there has always been something in the back of my mind that it's limitations that make Bush call dumb plays.
I also wonder how many RPO's were called with intent to run Gaskin but Browning held it and then threw it instead.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/51310/we-know-our-offense-is-shit-but#latest -
Schottenheimer is a very good analogy.topdawgnc said:
I work with a lot of UGA alum.creepycoug said:
Agreed. In retrospect he was a good enough coach to put together decent seasons, no more, and occasionally do better than that. 10-2 made all of Cane nation bite. And as you know, I'm a sucker for a good recruiter, because you have to have that anyway.RaceBannon said:
Counter argument is that if Richt needed to fire his staff he should have been fired anywaycreepycoug said:
That's better than what Richt said, which was essentially, "We've got the right plan, we just need to do it better."UWhuskytskeet said:Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.
Word is that the AD met with him and told him he had to fire his son and think about other offensive staff positions. He said, "I quit."
Say what you will about the Diaz hire, he had a vision for the defense and he made it happen. He also fired the entire offensive staff - every. last. one. - including Richt's son, w/in 24 hours of being hired.
But, that's the easy part for coaches who want to get better.
7-6 is what we had when we got Pete. There's a jump to 10 wins then a bigger jump to 12-15
Richt could manage to have a losing record in a season at Georgia.
But some guys just can't put it together, and in Richt's case, he seemed to have effectively retired to Miami when he took the job. Which explains why he punked out when it got hard. He didn't come to Miami for hard. He came to Miami to retire.
Which is why I'm leary of old guys at the HC spot. It's not a fun job. You need to be hungry. He was not. I'm skeptical about whether Davis part II would be hungry enough. He's old now too.
It was always fun to listen to them support Richt.
He was the college version of Marty Schottenheimer. Good enough to give you hope, good enough to get right to the door ... but he couldn't kick it in.
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I actually think for a stubborn, and somewhat aloof, guy like Petersen, this is a fair amount of concession. The way he is is why I love his GIFs so much. He's always talking to someone who doesn't come close to understanding the game like he does, and you can tell it's very hard for him to maintain a polite image and respond respectfully. So for him to say, "yeah, we have work to do," is actually quite a lot.ZoneUW said:
Coach speak. "I have a five point plan" yadda yadda yaddaUWhuskytskeet said:Hopefully not just fluff, but it sounds like he gets the message.
Of course, none of this answers the question why they weren't pressuring Haskins earlier in the game. Washington was getting gouged in the running game, but the killers were when Haskins was able to sit back with little to no pressure and make those crazy throws. When he had to deal with pressure, his throws were off. He missed several open receivers on big plays in the second half just because he had to hurry his pass. -
The post game press conference was pretty interesting. A reporter essentially asked why they didn’t run the ball in the first and why did they run it six straight times to start the second half. I’m paraphrasing but Pete essentially said in the first half they did a lot of RPO’s but they all ended up being passes (obligatory fuck you Jake). In the second they called designed runs, not RPOs and we all saw the results...DoogCourics said:HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
I've been about halfway on the wagon since September. I get frustrated with the calls, but there has always been something in the back of my mind that it's limitations that make Bush call dumb plays.
I also wonder how many RPO's were called with intent to run Gaskin but Browning held it and then threw it instead.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/51310/we-know-our-offense-is-shit-but#latest
Browning was also super salty the whole post game presser which was entertaining. Biggest silver lining of all time never having to watch him play again.
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I've said it before we hired Bush, and I'll say it again now.
Bring in a guy like Jeff Horton from San Diego State to improve our running game and OL play. Since I doubt Pete will fire or demote Bush, then Make Jeff Horton the co-OC and make him responsible for the OL & running game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Horton
His running attack has been studly at SDSU, and he has OL coaching experience in the NFL, which OL recruits like.
Last year when we lost to both Stanford and ASU, SDSU beat both of those teams, due to their running attack.
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I’m there too. After the cal game I tweeted that I can’t write off Bush’s offense without seeing another QB run it because Jake is so fucking involved. It’s been said more eloquently by many before but we see the open receivers that Jake just doesn’t throw too. We know the instances where a real QB pumps the ball and hits WRs on time in stride but Jake throws late, or worse not at all and then gets pissy when his WRs don’t make a great catch on a wobbly throw as he’s scrambling.HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
The fact that we know about multiple cases this year where Jake checked out run plays in the red zone into low percentage throws, got gifs of Jake hanging up the phone, and multiple WRs clearly frustrated with Jake on the field, just shows how much dissent there is between Bush and Jake.
I’m not saying Bush is phenomenal, that there aren’t clear tendencies that need to be broken, most importantly the inability to stick with the run and the over use of fly-sweeps, but’s he was also dealing with a limited yet stubborn QB that our opponents all know how to defend. -
This is where Pete really needs to look in the mirror. You had a retard at QB and didn't realize early on that you needed to be "stubborn with the run". You have MMFG back there. Come out and run the goddamned ball until the other team finds a way to stop it. And if you're going to pass on a team like the Buckeyes, why not use some quick passes to the WTEs?Edwin_Bambino said:
The post game press conference was pretty interesting. A reporter essentially asked why they didn’t run the ball in the first and why did they run it six straight times to start the second half. I’m paraphrasing but Pete essentially said in the first half they did a lot of RPO’s but they all ended up being passes (obligatory fuck you Jake). In the second they called designed runs, not RPOs and we all saw the results...DoogCourics said:HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
I've been about halfway on the wagon since September. I get frustrated with the calls, but there has always been something in the back of my mind that it's limitations that make Bush call dumb plays.
I also wonder how many RPO's were called with intent to run Gaskin but Browning held it and then threw it instead.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/51310/we-know-our-offense-is-shit-but#latest
Browning was also super salty the whole post game presser which was entertaining. Biggest silver lining of all time never having to watch him play again.
Yeah, I'm some stupid dipshit on the couch. But, I have every right to be frustrated by seeing the same shit happen week in and week out. Don't have your galactically stupid QB run the RPO. He fucking sucks at it. He thinks he's Russell Wilson, but he has the athletic abilities of a my grandma. -
If I'm a DC and I know UW runs a bunch of RPO's I'm having my backers and ends key on Gaskin all day. Let Jake try to win the game. Good luck!Edwin_Bambino said:
The post game press conference was pretty interesting. A reporter essentially asked why they didn’t run the ball in the first and why did they run it six straight times to start the second half. I’m paraphrasing but Pete essentially said in the first half they did a lot of RPO’s but they all ended up being passes (obligatory fuck you Jake). In the second they called designed runs, not RPOs and we all saw the results...DoogCourics said:HillsboroDuck said:
There's plenty of room on the Bush Hamden bandwagon.LaMichael_Corleone said:You guys are going to hate me but......................... Bush Hamden is good.
Do WR’s need to develop better? absolutely. Do we need to do a better job actively scheming Hunter Bryant & other playmakers into the offense? Yes. Was this Bush’s best game and are there things to harp on him for? Yes.
But I’m sorry. He’s not the problem. When you can’t have plays over ten yards, you’re not going to be very successful. Obviously there needs to be changes but Bush is way down on the list for me and I’ve crushed him a lot this year.
It's basically just you and me.
Welcome aboard.
I've been about halfway on the wagon since September. I get frustrated with the calls, but there has always been something in the back of my mind that it's limitations that make Bush call dumb plays.
I also wonder how many RPO's were called with intent to run Gaskin but Browning held it and then threw it instead.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/51310/we-know-our-offense-is-shit-but#latest
Browning was also super salty the whole post game presser which was entertaining. Biggest silver lining of all time never having to watch him play again. -
This is a good poast but I will add that DJ never beat a corch in the same league as Saban and Urbs until year 9 on the jerb. And he lost to The Bear and Pedo State along the way.RaceBannon said:
Except that James could beat better teams from day 1 and did. Right up to Oklahoma in the 84 Orange Bowl the year before he got boat raced by BamaHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
In 86 we blew out Ohio State while floundering in the Pac
Pete isn't beating good teams and has a hell of a lot easier schedule that we used to now that we don't play the LA schools that much and get a steady diet of Pac 12 dreck
Pete isn't working that's the point. We don't need to wait 15 years for him to figure it out
People really did want to fire James. Pete gets his cocked sucked all over campus for not being Urban Meyer or Nick Satan and winning our shitty little league and ALMOST winning our bowl games
He needs a fucking mirror now. He isn't getting fired nor should he but he needs to change. -
Lambo beat Saban.YellowSnow said:
This is a good poast but I will add that DJ never beat a corch in the same league as Saban and Urbs until year 9 on the jerb. And he lost to The Bear and Pedo State along the way.RaceBannon said:
Except that James could beat better teams from day 1 and did. Right up to Oklahoma in the 84 Orange Bowl the year before he got boat raced by BamaHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
In 86 we blew out Ohio State while floundering in the Pac
Pete isn't beating good teams and has a hell of a lot easier schedule that we used to now that we don't play the LA schools that much and get a steady diet of Pac 12 dreck
Pete isn't working that's the point. We don't need to wait 15 years for him to figure it out
People really did want to fire James. Pete gets his cocked sucked all over campus for not being Urban Meyer or Nick Satan and winning our shitty little league and ALMOST winning our bowl games
He needs a fucking mirror now. He isn't getting fired nor should he but he needs to change. -
@puppylove_sugarsteel loves you for this.Baphomet said:
Lambo beat Saban.YellowSnow said:
This is a good poast but I will add that DJ never beat a corch in the same league as Saban and Urbs until year 9 on the jerb. And he lost to The Bear and Pedo State along the way.RaceBannon said:
Except that James could beat better teams from day 1 and did. Right up to Oklahoma in the 84 Orange Bowl the year before he got boat raced by BamaHillsboroDuck said:Sorry but this is kind of ridiculous. DJ (ILTCHDJ) had his "moment" after he got boat raced by 22 by a 3 loss Alabama team, at the conclusion of the 5th consecutive season of not winning the conference (and yes one of those years he finished second in the country, the other 4 were mostly disappointing).
Pete just won the conference for the second time in 3 years and if he's ever lost a game by 22 at UW it hasn't happened in a long damn time.
DJ to his eternal credit (GO DAWGS!) realized he was never going to compete at the top level again without a massive overhaul. So massive in fact that UW was going to go just 21-13-1 over the next 3 years while he put the overhaul in place.
Pete's program doesn't need a complete overhaul. He needs to recruit better (which he's already been doing the past two years). He needs to shake his affinity for midget try hard noodle arm QBs - which 4 of the 5 QB's to enroll or commit to the program in the past 12 months suggest he has. He needs to evaluate his in game coaching, which he says he's going to but I'm skeptical.
Pete is adding passers and pass rushers the two biggest issues that have plagued this program the past 3 years. Last year's class combined with this one is damn near perfect.
We are not anywhere close to the point where we need to do a complete overhaul and lose 40% of our games the next three years. No DJ moment required here.
The extremely frustrating thing will be if the in game coaching keeps us from getting that final step, but most coaches are in game idiots and I just don't think it's going to hurt us as badly with the right pieces in place.
We'll see.
In 86 we blew out Ohio State while floundering in the Pac
Pete isn't beating good teams and has a hell of a lot easier schedule that we used to now that we don't play the LA schools that much and get a steady diet of Pac 12 dreck
Pete isn't working that's the point. We don't need to wait 15 years for him to figure it out
People really did want to fire James. Pete gets his cocked sucked all over campus for not being Urban Meyer or Nick Satan and winning our shitty little league and ALMOST winning our bowl games
He needs a fucking mirror now. He isn't getting fired nor should he but he needs to change. -
If Gaskin gets 30 carries (He had 24), and Mcgrew and Ahmed combined for 20-25 carries, Washington wins this game. When has giving Browning 54 pass attempts ever led to good things? Pete could have ran the ball down Urban's throat. Case in point, the second quarter drive...Gaskin gashes Ohio st. for something like 40 yards on three carries, then for some unforgivable reason, Browning throws three straight times and they punt inside the Ohio State 40 yard line. Washington finally played like Washington in the 4th quarter. I want to check the stats, but I think UW rushed more times in the 4th than any other quarter and they were down 25!! If UW had ran the ball and stuck with it from the start, they'd have scored 35-40 points and won that game.
Running the football effectively kills the spread offense, because the spread offense is successful when you get a rhythm. You can't get a rhythm when the opponent eats up 6-7 minutes continuously on 12-14 play drives.
