Theoretical socialism

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?

That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.

In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?

Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.

I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.

I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.

So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.

Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.

Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.

Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.

Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.

Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.

Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.

That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.

The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?

Most of the ownership of business in China is owned by the government and they sure are doing fine with economic growth. HTH

True...but how much growth is because of intellectual theft?

Sounds like you know. You want to provide the answer?

$14 billion annually from the US. Everybody else... who the hell knows

creepycoug said:

allpurpleallgold said:

More than half of millennials have a positive view of socialism. You’ve already lost.

Eh. Do they really? Maybe they come home over winter break and tell their parents that socialism could really work!

Until they get cut off, college is over, and therefore so is the party.

The true believers will go and do public interest work, and God bless 'em. The country can't run on everyone chasing the brass ring. We need people willing to do jerbs that don't pay a lot.

The others will chase the brass ring and jump into capitalism with both feet. Trust me.

Kids want to live in Boston, SF, Seattle, LA, Austin. Those places aren't friendly to people on a budget.

Once they start making bank, they will start doing this thing called paying taxes. Once that happens, their views on things will begin to shape.

Just like I tried, in vain, to explain to Westlinnfaggot, this isn't the issue that neo-populist Trump ball lickers want to make it out to be. It's just rhetoric for faggots like bobsled.

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?

That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.

In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?

Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.

I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.

I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.

So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.

Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.

Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.

Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.

Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.

Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.

Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.

That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.

The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?

Most of the ownership of business in China is owned by the government and they sure are doing fine with economic growth. HTH

True...but how much growth is because of intellectual theft?

Sounds like you know. You want to provide the answer?

$14 billion annually from the US. Everybody else... who the hell knows

Cool.. What's that as a percent of their GDP?

Intellectual theft of US property alone amounts to about 1% of their GDP.

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?

That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.

In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?

Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.

I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.

I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.

So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.

Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.

Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.

Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.

Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.

Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.

Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.

That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.

The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?

Most of the ownership of business in China is owned by the government and they sure are doing fine with economic growth. HTH

True...but how much growth is because of intellectual theft?

Sounds like you know. You want to provide the answer?

$14 billion annually from the US. Everybody else... who the hell knows

Cool.. What's that as a percent of their GDP?

Intellectual theft of US property alone amounts to about 1% of their GDP.

Wut? The entire GDP of China is $1.4 trillion?

Yes about 1%. I was wrong with the $14 billion figure. I heard the $14B on CNBC, but they may have been using a specific month figure. I don’t know why so wide a variance but it’s between $225 billion and $600 billion annually. So yes 1% is about right.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/03/23/technology/china-us-trump-tariffs-ip-theft/index.html

Again, that is the US by itself. I can’t find figures on other developed countries like Japan, UK, Germany, etc. All of which signed on to the complaint yesterday.