Theoretical socialism
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This is progress (I agree with the point you are trying to make but I would suggest some refinement to the argument.)UW_Doog_Bot said:
I've been "hearing" from the boareds "liberals" how impeachment is coming any day now. That's still the case last I checked the Tug. What's changed?CirrhosisDawg said:
Really? Aging boomers voted for trump because they can’t compete in today’s world and demand government intervention (tariffs nativism, and economic protectionism). The voting preference of today’s old fucks is wealth transfer and activist government intervention. They have no preference at all for “conservatism”UW_Doog_Bot said:
Young people are generally more progressive and skew more conservative as they age. Probably has to do with having to pay more in taxes, accumulating more wealth, and gaining experience watching government fail as they age.allpurpleallgold said:More than half of millennials have a positive view of socialism. You’ve already lost.
I've been hearing about the demographic tidal wave shift to progressiveness for more than 20 yrs.
Sounds like you “hearing” from the same people telling you that impeachment is coming any day now.
It's a fair point about the changing faces of American politics, both parties have swerved towards populist "economics". It's still the same old Dixiecrats voting for nativism & protectionism they're just boomer republicans now.
Dixiecrats, civil rights era southern democrats that turned gop starting with Nixon’s southern strategy, are mostly all dead. Their legacy of unskilled-uneducated frightened caucasians with express grievances toward “elites” continue unabated however. They exist everywhere there is obsolescence and inefficiency (manufacturing, mining, textiles, etc.). US competitive advantage is skills and competency. That doesn’t sit well with a trump voter. Like all populist and nationalist movements, it will die. The only question is at what ultimate cost. -
God help us, we are agreeing. Identity politics has also made poor whites vote as a block from what I can see. It's justified the world view of them being victims. Lots of the same language and arguments are being adapted from the left to the right over the last five or so years.CirrhosisDawg said:
This is progress (I agree with the point you are trying to make but I would suggest some refinement to the argument.)UW_Doog_Bot said:
I've been "hearing" from the boareds "liberals" how impeachment is coming any day now. That's still the case last I checked the Tug. What's changed?CirrhosisDawg said:
Really? Aging boomers voted for trump because they can’t compete in today’s world and demand government intervention (tariffs nativism, and economic protectionism). The voting preference of today’s old fucks is wealth transfer and activist government intervention. They have no preference at all for “conservatism”UW_Doog_Bot said:
Young people are generally more progressive and skew more conservative as they age. Probably has to do with having to pay more in taxes, accumulating more wealth, and gaining experience watching government fail as they age.allpurpleallgold said:More than half of millennials have a positive view of socialism. You’ve already lost.
I've been hearing about the demographic tidal wave shift to progressiveness for more than 20 yrs.
Sounds like you “hearing” from the same people telling you that impeachment is coming any day now.
It's a fair point about the changing faces of American politics, both parties have swerved towards populist "economics". It's still the same old Dixiecrats voting for nativism & protectionism they're just boomer republicans now.
Dixiecrats, civil rights era southern democrats that turned gop starting with Nixon’s southern strategy, are mostly all dead. Their legacy of unskilled-uneducated frightened caucasians with express grievances toward “elites” continue unabated however. They exist everywhere there is obsolescence and inefficiency (manufacturing, mining, textiles, etc.). US competitive advantage is skills and competency. That doesn’t sit well with a trump voter. Like all populist and nationalist movements, it will die. The only question is at what ultimate cost. -
How much of your "wealth" did you transfer? Shouldn't you be doing it on your own since the government isn't doing a good enough job?CirrhosisDawg said:
Really? Aging boomers voted for trump because they can’t compete in today’s world and demand government intervention (tariffs nativism, and economic protectionism). The voting preference of today’s old fucks is wealth transfer and activist government intervention. They have no preference at all for “conservatism”UW_Doog_Bot said:
Young people are generally more progressive and skew more conservative as they age. Probably has to do with having to pay more in taxes, accumulating more wealth, and gaining experience watching government fail as they age.allpurpleallgold said:More than half of millennials have a positive view of socialism. You’ve already lost.
I've been hearing about the demographic tidal wave shift to progressiveness for more than 20 yrs.
Sounds like you “hearing” from the same people telling you that impeachment is coming any day now.
I'll bet it's zero dollars. -
This is an amazing load of bullshit even for youCirrhosisDawg said:
This is progress (I agree with the point you are trying to make but I would suggest some refinement to the argument.)UW_Doog_Bot said:
I've been "hearing" from the boareds "liberals" how impeachment is coming any day now. That's still the case last I checked the Tug. What's changed?CirrhosisDawg said:
Really? Aging boomers voted for trump because they can’t compete in today’s world and demand government intervention (tariffs nativism, and economic protectionism). The voting preference of today’s old fucks is wealth transfer and activist government intervention. They have no preference at all for “conservatism”UW_Doog_Bot said:
Young people are generally more progressive and skew more conservative as they age. Probably has to do with having to pay more in taxes, accumulating more wealth, and gaining experience watching government fail as they age.allpurpleallgold said:More than half of millennials have a positive view of socialism. You’ve already lost.
I've been hearing about the demographic tidal wave shift to progressiveness for more than 20 yrs.
Sounds like you “hearing” from the same people telling you that impeachment is coming any day now.
It's a fair point about the changing faces of American politics, both parties have swerved towards populist "economics". It's still the same old Dixiecrats voting for nativism & protectionism they're just boomer republicans now.
Dixiecrats, civil rights era southern democrats that turned gop starting with Nixon’s southern strategy, are mostly all dead. Their legacy of unskilled-uneducated frightened caucasians with express grievances toward “elites” continue unabated however. They exist everywhere there is obsolescence and inefficiency (manufacturing, mining, textiles, etc.). US competitive advantage is skills and competency. That doesn’t sit well with a trump voter. Like all populist and nationalist movements, it will die. The only question is at what ultimate cost. -
It is so typical that leftards think “words” are of more value than a factual debate. Supporting fair trade is defined as “protectionism” and “nativism”. Never mind the tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars in theft of American intellectual property by China. Demanding an equivalent access to Chinese markets and the Chinese legal system to protect American patents, trademarks and intellectual property is not to be debated. It is only to be decried because Trump is the first American president to make it a priority. Therefore, it is protectionism and nativism.
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Trump’s “fair trade” farce is as effective as his Mexico-will-pay-for-the-Wall fiasco. The loser in each case is working class slobs like you. You got conned bubba.WestlinnDuck said:
It is so typical that leftards think “words” are of more value than a factual debate. Supporting fair trade is defined as “protectionism” and “nativism”. Never mind the tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars in theft of American intellectual property by China. Demanding an equivalent access to Chinese markets and the Chinese legal system to protect American patents, trademarks and intellectual property is not to be debated. It is only to be decried because Trump is the first American president to make it a priority. Therefore, it is protectionism and nativism. -
So zero. How did I know? Ask!CirrhosisDawg said:
Trump’s “fair trade” farce is as effective as his Mexico-will-pay-for-the-Wall fiasco. The loser in each case is working class slobs like you. You got conned bubba.WestlinnDuck said:
It is so typical that leftards think “words” are of more value than a factual debate. Supporting fair trade is defined as “protectionism” and “nativism”. Never mind the tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars in theft of American intellectual property by China. Demanding an equivalent access to Chinese markets and the Chinese legal system to protect American patents, trademarks and intellectual property is not to be debated. It is only to be decried because Trump is the first American president to make it a priority. Therefore, it is protectionism and nativism. -
Watch the documentary The Chinese Hustle. Those fucks don’t play by any fair trade rules or acceptable business practices.
Essentially trumped up audits for Chinese companies doing reverse mergers into US publicly traded shell/insolvent companies (there are tons of them). Pump and dump schemes, viscious shorting of stocks, lots of capital extracted from the US market. All backed by ‘audit’ opinions from Big 4 affiliates in China. Total scam.
Chinese can go fuck themselves. Morally bankrupt business practices. -
Agree. So why exacerbate the problem and punish US producers, consumers and taxpayers through self-defeating tariffs? How badly do troomps want to harm themselves because of China? Why does the US, the world’s greatest creator and innovator, insist that the path forward is to make itself weaker?PurpleThrobber said:Watch the documentary The Chinese Hustle. Those fucks don’t play by any fair trade rules or acceptable business practices.
Essentially trumped up audits for Chinese companies doing reverse mergers into US publicly traded shell/insolvent companies (there are tons of them). Pump and dump schemes, viscious shorting of stocks, lots of capital extracted from the US market. All backed by ‘audit’ opinions from Big 4 affiliates in China. Total scam.
Chinese can go fuck themselves. Morally bankrupt business practices. -
Liberal translation: Don't do to China what China has been doing to the U.S. for years. That might make somebody uncomfortable even though the result would result in a positive for many Americans. Let the Chinese continue to bang you in the ass without benefit of lube. Lube might offend them. Can't upset them. They may get angry with the U.S.CirrhosisDawg said:
Agree. So why exacerbate the problem and punish US producers, consumers and taxpayers through self-defeating tariffs? How badly do troomps want to harm themselves because of China? Why does the US, the world’s greatest creator and innovator, insist that the path forward is to make itself weaker?PurpleThrobber said:Watch the documentary The Chinese Hustle. Those fucks don’t play by any fair trade rules or acceptable business practices.
Essentially trumped up audits for Chinese companies doing reverse mergers into US publicly traded shell/insolvent companies (there are tons of them). Pump and dump schemes, viscious shorting of stocks, lots of capital extracted from the US market. All backed by ‘audit’ opinions from Big 4 affiliates in China. Total scam.
Chinese can go fuck themselves. Morally bankrupt business practices.
