Kyle Patterson, 3* 2019 TE, Gilbert (Perry), AZ (OFFERED - 12/2/18)

animate said:

We should forward that shit to Pete. Let him chew on that fat and devise a workaround ...

FremontTroll said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

dougthedawg said:

On the 247 West Coast chat, someone asked blair Angulo about uws te and wr recruiting and if he thought lubick and paopao were to blame.

Blair said the problem is our team recruiting strategy.

He said the okg thing hurts recruiting for those two positions (i would add rb - ball handlers like attention and hype and we suck out of state on rbs).

He said we also recruit differently than other schools. Rather than bringing in groups we laser target one or two kids which makes us behind the other schools when we miss and move on to the next kid.

He said we spurned some kids early who were very interested but a little down on our board.

The implication being, everyone strikes out but everyone else is in a better spot.

I think there is something to this. We do fine with defense (inb4 buck) and ol but do shitty with out of state ball handlers.

Tldr skill positions are prima donnas and petersens okg/bfl strategy doesnt work with them as well.

Why would anyone ask Angulo any of this?

These people are reporters, not analysts. Asking them why things happen and asking my dog why things happen is equally valuable.

How the fuck would Angulo know? He’s a random jock chaser. He’s not - oh say a guy that gets paid to figure out careful explanations of why people do things and an expert on recruiting.

First rule of checking your logic: look for disconfirmatory cases. Let’s see if we can find any.

OH SHIT LOOK: THAT IS BUSH HAMDAN’S MUSIC!!!

Weird. After we had Dante and John Ross and Bush was recruiting we pulled 5 top notch players that were a level above anything we’s gotten at WR: Ty Jones, Terrell Bynum, Alex Cook, Marquis Spiker and Auzzy Osborne.

Oh, but Angulo says it’s our strategy!!!! Great point fuckface.

These guys are people that report on recruiting for a living and are idiots.

It’s Lubick. It’s Paopao.

For some reason we saw a big two year spike in recruiting: probably a systemic issue to do with our program!!

GREAT POINT FUCKSTICK.

Also - that glory hound position WTE!!!

Also: DBs are definitely the offensive linemen of the defense.

FUCKING KILL THESE IDIOTS.

Yeah my first thought was what about DBs? They don't like attention? Neon Deion anyone? Sherman? Revis Island? Peters?

Its the coach stupid.

The only mildly interesting thing he said was "we spurned some kids early who were very interested but a little down on our board" which just confirms what we already knew but basically Lubick could have stayed on the same level with Pittman and Delgado. He tried to level up. He is going to miss and end up leveling down with the kid from Texas.

StrongArmCobra said:

I don't get the bitching about Paopao? Everybody loved Will Dissly who was a lightly recruited 2-star WTE (granted was recruited to play D-line). Everybody loves Cade Otton who was a lightly recruited 3-star WTE. Paopao goes after another lightly recruited WTE who's taller and longer than both those guys and you guys are bitching? What a bunch of fucking star chasers. Like a said before, white TE's are white TE's. They mostly block and run simple routes over the middle or banana routes in the flat. It's not that hard to find these guys. You can be a shit recruiter and still recruit future NFL TE's as long as you know how to coach them up which Paopao does.

There are zero super star TE's on the West coast in this class. There is no star TE recruit that Paopao should have gotten that he didn't. The 4-star white TE's like Wolfe and Rae are just the ones that played for higher profile teams in Cali and are more physically mature in high school than others but it all evens out in college. This kid has an NFL frame. In two years, when he's 6'6 260, nobody will be bitching. Who gives a fuck if he's a further down the board recruit if he's still talented and turns out to be good?

As long as Paopao keeps recruiting good players whether they're high-profile recruits or not and keeps developing them into NFL guys he can stay.

backthepack said:

StrongArmCobra said:

I don't get the bitching about Paopao? Everybody loved Will Dissly who was a lightly recruited 2-star WTE (granted was recruited to play D-line). Everybody loves Cade Otton who was a lightly recruited 3-star WTE. Paopao goes after another lightly recruited WTE who's taller and longer than both those guys and you guys are bitching? What a bunch of fucking star chasers. Like a said before, white TE's are white TE's. They mostly block and run simple routes over the middle or banana routes in the flat. It's not that hard to find these guys. You can be a shit recruiter and still recruit future NFL TE's as long as you know how to coach them up which Paopao does.

There are zero super star TE's on the West coast in this class. There is no star TE recruit that Paopao should have gotten that he didn't. The 4-star white TE's like Wolfe and Rae are just the ones that played for higher profile teams in Cali and are more physically mature in high school than others but it all evens out in college. This kid has an NFL frame. In two years, when he's 6'6 260, nobody will be bitching. Who gives a fuck if he's a further down the board recruit if he's still talented and turns out to be good?

As long as Paopao keeps recruiting good players whether they're high-profile recruits or not and keeps developing them into NFL guys he can stay.

Here’s an idea you fucking stupid piece of shit: get a dynamic athlete who can run routes and block!!1!!!!1!1!1!!!! Wow a true revelation. BallzFS.

dirtysouwfdawg said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

StrongArmCobra said:

I don't get the bitching about Paopao? Everybody loved Will Dissly who was a lightly recruited 2-star WTE (granted was recruited to play D-line). Everybody loves Cade Otton who was a lightly recruited 3-star WTE. Paopao goes after another lightly recruited WTE who's taller and longer than both those guys and you guys are bitching? What a bunch of fucking star chasers. Like a said before, white TE's are white TE's. They mostly block and run simple routes over the middle or banana routes in the flat. It's not that hard to find these guys. You can be a shit recruiter and still recruit future NFL TE's as long as you know how to coach them up which Paopao does.

There are zero super star TE's on the West coast in this class. There is no star TE recruit that Paopao should have gotten that he didn't. The 4-star white TE's like Wolfe and Rae are just the ones that played for higher profile teams in Cali and are more physically mature in high school than others but it all evens out in college. This kid has an NFL frame. In two years, when he's 6'6 260, nobody will be bitching. Who gives a fuck if he's a further down the board recruit if he's still talented and turns out to be good?

As long as Paopao keeps recruiting good players whether they're high-profile recruits or not and keeps developing them into NFL guys he can stay.

Translation "I'm bad at logic"

DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT FUCKFACE.

Hi my name is Dennis. I have a hard on for Will Dissly and Cade Otton but when UW recruits another WTE just like them I think Paopao should be fired. I then claim to be logical.

Do you listen to the pods? Once they become dawgs Dennis accepts them as members of the fam except for brownsocks.

Regardless of WTE OR BTE, moving to the 18th option is not acceptable.

Two part job, recruit the best fucking players “star chase” and develop talent.

He is doing half his job... in my job I have a 6M budget to hit. If I do 1/2 of that, not only will I be out of a job but most likely a lot of other people.

Maybe real life application will connect the dots for you.

Meek said:

StrongArmCobra said:

dirtysouwfdawg said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

StrongArmCobra said:

I don't get the bitching about Paopao? Everybody loved Will Dissly who was a lightly recruited 2-star WTE (granted was recruited to play D-line). Everybody loves Cade Otton who was a lightly recruited 3-star WTE. Paopao goes after another lightly recruited WTE who's taller and longer than both those guys and you guys are bitching? What a bunch of fucking star chasers. Like a said before, white TE's are white TE's. They mostly block and run simple routes over the middle or banana routes in the flat. It's not that hard to find these guys. You can be a shit recruiter and still recruit future NFL TE's as long as you know how to coach them up which Paopao does.

There are zero super star TE's on the West coast in this class. There is no star TE recruit that Paopao should have gotten that he didn't. The 4-star white TE's like Wolfe and Rae are just the ones that played for higher profile teams in Cali and are more physically mature in high school than others but it all evens out in college. This kid has an NFL frame. In two years, when he's 6'6 260, nobody will be bitching. Who gives a fuck if he's a further down the board recruit if he's still talented and turns out to be good?

As long as Paopao keeps recruiting good players whether they're high-profile recruits or not and keeps developing them into NFL guys he can stay.

Translation "I'm bad at logic"

DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT FUCKFACE.

Hi my name is Dennis. I have a hard on for Will Dissly and Cade Otton but when UW recruits another WTE just like them I think Paopao should be fired. I then claim to be logical.

Do you listen to the pods? Once they become dawgs Dennis accepts them as members of the fam except for brownsocks.

Regardless of WTE OR BTE, moving to the 18th option is not acceptable.

Two part job, recruit the best fucking players “star chase” and develop talent.

He is doing half his job... in my job I have a 6M budget to hit. If I do 1/2 of that, not only will I be out of a job but most likely a lot of other people.

Maybe real life application will connect the dots for you.

Was Cade Otton one of our top targets? No. We wanted Bryant and Colby Parkinson and whiffed on Parkinson so we settled for Otton. Who gives a fuck? Otton is good. You guys are exaggerating how many guys Paopao has whiffed on. He whiffed on Wolfe and Archer and that's it. Foskey was a Buck recruit. Ethan Rae was never offered and has already torn his ACL twice in high school, we don't want him. Is there anything about Wolfe and Archer that suggests they are better prospects than this kid? No.

Patterson is big and can block and at 6'6 will be a nice red zone target to throw to. TE recruiting is not that fucking serious. I'm fine with high expectations but this is just being unreasonable. Patterson could easily develop into a better player than Wolfe and Archer. A couple years in the weight room getting bigger, stronger, faster and he could be our version of Colby Parkinson.

Dennis already proved that we know he’ll develop into a better player than Wolfe will but will he develop into a better player than Wolfe would if Wolfe were here. No.

StrongArmCobra said:

dirtysouwfdawg said:

StrongArmCobra said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

StrongArmCobra said:

I don't get the bitching about Paopao? Everybody loved Will Dissly who was a lightly recruited 2-star WTE (granted was recruited to play D-line). Everybody loves Cade Otton who was a lightly recruited 3-star WTE. Paopao goes after another lightly recruited WTE who's taller and longer than both those guys and you guys are bitching? What a bunch of fucking star chasers. Like a said before, white TE's are white TE's. They mostly block and run simple routes over the middle or banana routes in the flat. It's not that hard to find these guys. You can be a shit recruiter and still recruit future NFL TE's as long as you know how to coach them up which Paopao does.

There are zero super star TE's on the West coast in this class. There is no star TE recruit that Paopao should have gotten that he didn't. The 4-star white TE's like Wolfe and Rae are just the ones that played for higher profile teams in Cali and are more physically mature in high school than others but it all evens out in college. This kid has an NFL frame. In two years, when he's 6'6 260, nobody will be bitching. Who gives a fuck if he's a further down the board recruit if he's still talented and turns out to be good?

As long as Paopao keeps recruiting good players whether they're high-profile recruits or not and keeps developing them into NFL guys he can stay.

Translation "I'm bad at logic"

DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT FUCKFACE.

Hi my name is Dennis. I have a hard on for Will Dissly and Cade Otton but when UW recruits another WTE just like them I think Paopao should be fired. I then claim to be logical.

Do you listen to the pods? Once they become dawgs Dennis accepts them as members of the fam except for brownsocks.

Regardless of WTE OR BTE, moving to the 18th option is not acceptable.

Two part job, recruit the best fucking players “star chase” and develop talent.

He is doing half his job... in my job I have a 6M budget to hit. If I do 1/2 of that, not only will I be out of a job but most likely a lot of other people.

Maybe real life application will connect the dots for you.

Was Cade Otton one of our top targets? No. We wanted Bryant and Colby Parkinson and whiffed on Parkinson so we settled for Otton. Who gives a fuck? Otton is good. You guys are exaggerating how many guys Paopao has whiffed on. He whiffed on Wolfe and Archer and that's it. Foskey was a Buck recruit. Ethan Rae was never offered and has already torn his ACL twice in high school, we don't want him. Is there anything about Wolfe and Archer that suggests they are better prospects than this kid? No.

Patterson is big and can block and at 6'6 will be a nice red zone target to throw to. TE recruiting is not that fucking serious. I'm fine with high expectations but this is just being unreasonable. Patterson could easily develop into a better player than Wolfe and Archer. A couple years in the weight room getting bigger, stronger, faster and he could be our version of Colby Parkinson.