Millennial Men Ditching Traditional ‘Masculine’ Values, More Likely To Embrace ‘Emotional Strength’
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Canadian men? Unless they're living further than 50 miles from the US border they don't count.DerekJohnson said: -
I’m surprised you’re surprised. Image obsessed selfie generation raised on participation trophies goes soft. Stunning revelation.
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Is this the counter study to the WaPo Fragile Masculinity Trump supporter hypothesis?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/11/29/how-donald-trump-appeals-to-men-secretly-insecure-about-their-manhood/ -
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off. -
When did men ever believe that the shouldn't help others?
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We paid for the participation trophies. We can make them go away too.allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
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@MikeDamone would you explain to my man here what a straw man is?SFGbob said:When did men ever believe that the shouldn't help others?
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It's in your fucking post.allpurpleallgold said:
@MikeDamone would you explain to my man here what a straw man is?SFGbob said:When did men ever believe that the shouldn't help others?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
If this is a "shift" then there must have been a time when the number of men who said that they shouldn't help others was less than 9 out of 10. Unless you're saying the "shift" was that it used to be 10 out of 10. -
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness over...traditional values like physical strength and autonomy”SFGbob said:
It's in your fucking post.allpurpleallgold said:
@MikeDamone would you explain to my man here what a straw man is?SFGbob said:When did men ever believe that the shouldn't help others?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
If this is a "shift" then there must have been a time when the number of men who said that they shouldn't help others was less than 9 out of 10. Unless you're saying the "shift" was that it used to be 10 out of 10.
It’s literally the second paragraph of the article.
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WWJD?allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Not SuchfagJ, but REAL Jesus.
Sound like REAL Christian values, not the kind today’s Right/Repubs espouse. -
People always gave back. Giving back to the community was never seen as feminine. The problem with millennials is that they want giving back to be an occupation. And because they are doing that and working on their “creativity” instead of getting a 40 hour a week job, they expect to get compensated like it is a full time job.BennyBeaver said:
WWJD?allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Not SuchfagJ, but REAL Jesus.
Sound like REAL Christian values, not the kind today’s Right/Repubs espouse. -
Great. So @EwaDawg should feel like comfortable.DerekJohnson said: -
Good because that's not what I said I don't know what the fuck you're quoting. So how is that 9 in 10 number a "shift?"allpurpleallgold said:
“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness over...traditional values like physical strength and autonomy”SFGbob said:
It's in your fucking post.allpurpleallgold said:
@MikeDamone would you explain to my man here what a straw man is?SFGbob said:When did men ever believe that the shouldn't help others?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
If this is a "shift" then there must have been a time when the number of men who said that they shouldn't help others was less than 9 out of 10. Unless you're saying the "shift" was that it used to be 10 out of 10.
It’s literally the second paragraph of the article.
And none of it says “men don’t care about others”. -
You’re really stupid.
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I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
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You are one angry little man.SFGbob said:I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
There's a mission and there's crazy. You crossed into nutty a long tim ago. -
If you’re gonna go down, go down in a blaze of glory, eh Creep?
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It’s doesnt matter if you give back unless you give back AND smear it all over social media. Can’t be a good person if people don’t know about it!
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Okay I get it. He was just emoting and I'm "angry" for asking him how it is a "shift." I should realize he was just emoting and not ask him to explain what the fuck he is talking about. Way to come running with the ass tonguing Coug, I have to hand it to you.creepycoug said:
You are one angry little man.SFGbob said:I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
There's a mission and there's crazy. You crossed into nutty a long tim ago. -
@RaceBannon fondly recalls all those selfies from Omaha Beach when the GG was giving back.CuntWaffle said:It’s doesnt matter if you give back unless you give back AND smear it all over social media. Can’t be a good person if people don’t know about it!
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“The research shows that younger men tend to value selflessness over...traditional values like physical strength and autonomy”SFGbob said:I'm just quoting what you said and asking you a question about it and you're dancing like a Kunt.
You claimed that this was a "shift."
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Okay, it's a "shift." For it to be a "shift" then wouldn't there had to have been a time when those numbers weren't the norm? Don't blame me because you can't back up your mouth.
Third time I’ve quoted the article we’re discussing. Third time. -
Great you can quote it you just can’t defend it. Btw, what the fuck do you think I’m quoting?
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This is my opinion, and I'm fine with the millennials disagreeing, but I would suspect that many of those respondents answered the way they did because they aren't capable of being autonomous. They've been coddled to need the help of others on their lives to manage their emotions, etc. It's imperative to give back to the community because they need that community to exist for their own benefit, too.
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Jesus Bob. The shift is how millennials rank the importance of the different categories. It's not saying that other generations don't value selfeness or new ideas. It's saying that millennials rank selflessness higher than traits like phsyical strength which implies that other generations ranked physical strength above selflessness. The raw score of each category doesn't really matter....if you take this fluff piece at face value.SFGbob said:Great you can quote it you just can’t defend it. Btw, what the fuck do you think I’m quoting?
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Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
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Who do you think has been fighting your wars in the Middle East for the last 17 years?Sledog said:
Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off. -
I like to try to generalize a generation of millions of people and claim to be an intellectual. I like to do that.
And for the record, "emotional strength" has never been at odds with "traditional masculinity." -
Tuff war talk for a guy who's never served. But Im sure that being a firearms expert who says he'd stop a school shooting Texas Walker style is pretty much the same thing as being in special forces.Sledog said:
Real Men always need to be able to kick ass! Whats more selfless winning wars or helping out with a recycling project? Real Men have ALWAYS helped others. Being a pansy hasn't helped anything more than the percentage of people with AIDS and interior decorating.allpurpleallgold said:“The research showed that younger men tend to value selflessness, social engagement and health over traditional ideals like physical strength and autonomy”
As I’ve said before, we millennials are better than you. Imagine being so fucked up you value physical strength over selflessness. Who’s obsessed with their superficial image?
“9 in 10 respondents said that men should help others, 88% agreed that men should be open to new ideas, new people and new experiences. 8 in 10 felt it imperative that men give back to their community”
Remember this is counter to you. This is a shift. Looks like all those participation trophies paid off.
